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[necromagicae]

very, very messy necromancy rambles under the cut from a discord convo haha...

tldr;  necromancy is wild bro

Stefano [FEMALE SYMBOL] Today at 1:48 PM ...this said. How strong are Clara's construct? Is it a fixed thing, or can she pump up a specific one to give it more strength/agility/so on?

Red Mage Irma. ♢Today at 2:18 PM she is capable of pumping up a construct to give it more strength/agility/so on yes, though this takes more time/energy from her specifically because she is trying to find a way to do it which doesn't involve dipping into shoving souls into things. this is actually her main field of research in necromancy.

i still need to work out the details and i'd appreciate any feedback/input, but the basics i have so far is soul-powered vs mana-powered as a general rule of thumb any construct directly powered by a soul is capable of taking more complex actions, (some super advanced ones even being able to be self-sufficient/even relatively self-aware), being able to be more easily augmented, require way less mana usage from the mage (as they typically only really need to worry about keeping the bonded soul under their control, not actively animating the entire structure to move per say) and are overall way more of a threat the Huge Downside being there is WAY more room for error, and if you lose control for even a second that is how you end up with Rouge Zombie out to Eat You and Anything Else Near It. Messing with souls is tricky and stuff gets messy fast.

mana-powered constructs, by comparison, are basically more like a computer with a simple code/command put into it. They typically can only do basic commands for the most part ('sit here attack thing that comes by'), take way more mana from the mage on the initial 'boot-up' and if being actively influenced will also drain more from them compared to the soul-powered ones, and while they can be augmented, this requires even more mana than the animating itself does. the upside is they require waaayy less active maintenance. they basically are laptops with a mana-powered battery that the mage needs to recharge every now and then, but the battery are long lasting and only drain when the thing is actively in use. soul-powered, by comparison, drain way faster, only that unlike these guys a soul-powered losing battery results in Rouge Construct, where in this case, it just causes the magic to stop animating it and it just returns to a normal pile of bones/flesh. The huge upside being ya know, they wont try to eat your face, and their is way less room for error. they are also more 'set aside and forget' friendly.

Stefano [FEMALE SYMBOL]Today at 2:22 PM Mmmmmh. How does a rogue zombie devolve into "Eating You and Anything Else Near It"? Is it because any living being with an actual soul has "find food > eat food" as an existential imperative?

Red Mage Irma. ♢Today at 2:22 PM Yeah basically They get reduced to their base survival drives with 0 filter. The most overpowering one being 'eat food' Only they never get full So they just.. Keep going Well, survival if you cut out the part of your brain that yells at you for doing things which are dangerous to you own well being, I should say

Stefano [FEMALE SYMBOL]Today at 2:26 PM Would it be wrong, to say that mana-powered constructs are more golems than undeads?

Red Mage Irma. ♢Today at 2:27 PM Not really, because technically they are Clara is capable of doing both, she just prefers one because its less of a hassle

sats (birb)👻Today at 2:29 PM i would say the difference between an undead versus a normal construct is the material it's made out of. an undead can be a construct, and a construct can be undead, but it's a venn diagram more-so than the same or separate categories.

Stefano [FEMALE SYMBOL]Today at 2:29 PM Tiny, absolutely inconsequential question. Is it possible, with a finite amount of energy, to perform what amounts to a perfect reincarnation? As in, taking an untarnished soul and attach it perfectly unto a host body?

sats (birb)👻Today at 2:30 PM would you count Az's floette's resurrection a perfect reincarnation from finite energy, or no?

Red Mage Irma. ♢Today at 2:30 PM I actually have a whole separate ramble about that specifically!

sats (birb)👻Today at 2:30 PM oh boy

Stefano [FEMALE SYMBOL]Today at 2:44 PM [Irma, taking out the Exposition Truck] "actually"

Red Mage Irma. ♢Today at 2:45 PM the tldr being 'yes... kinda... but...'

basically if its just the necromancer doing it, off their own power and nothing else. stuff gets messy fast. Soul splitting being the Biggest Issue. In order to call back the soul of the dead they need to give it something to latch onto in this world, that being half of ones own soul. So the person will come back! ...as a glued together soul, with some memories missing, and having memories which aren't quite theirs, and possibly even being bound to the mage in a way which lets them feel the pain the other is feeling, and a whole other number of unforeseen consequences to both the person who was resurrection and the mage themselves. (such as 'what happens if the glues together souls try to complete themselves?' 'who knows! but do you reeealllly wanna be the first to find out?')

not soul-glued resurrection basically requires drawing energy from some manner of godlike being capable of reaching across the other side and dragging back the soul wholesale, and wouldn't have any of the messy fallbacks. possibly because the god just takes care of all that stuff itself, or because it doesn't need to worry about that at all.

basically what separates a proper cleric from a necromancer. all clerics are necromancers, not all necromancers are clerics.

I'd say Az's floette is a bit of an edge case tho, it was brought back from a machine which certainly had godlike energy and was powered by like a a lot of pokemon souls. so its possible it skipped over any of these steps entirely, and that perfect resurrection which doesnt need/result in the above is possible but needs A Lot of sacrifice in order to make the soul stick. certainly much more than a normal mage would be capable of doing alone. so its possible cases like Az's floette just arent taken into account simply because they arent the 'standard' way a resurrection would happen

Stefano [FEMALE SYMBOL]Today at 2:47 PM Yeah, that was "finite" energy, but on a scale that would usually be way beyond feasible limits. A solid answer!