#i mean. not really imo but i was encouraged by my poll to tag it that
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i think about how the body kendal inherited was deliberately designed approximately one million times per second
vash is from @comicaurora, which you should totally read
#vash aurora#kendal aurora#gore#i mean. not really imo but i was encouraged by my poll to tag it that#comic aurora#comicaurora#aurora comic#webcomic aurora#aurora webcomic#art#artists on tumblr#'ghost will you ever draw vash/kendal with his shirt on?' nope!#if u translate the runes and i indicated the wrong muscle. no i didnt#sorry for degloving u again bbg (<- guy who didnt post the first muscle study w vash)
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Putting my anthro/socio/technologist hat on and reblogging again w/ some thoughts
No, you're not imagining things - this shift away from tumblr's traditional culture of cultivating 'beloved but largely anonymous mutuals' has been building for a while
And, yes, it's partially as a result of the waves of users coming over from twitter (and, to some extent, reddit).
BUT - just based on the comments on this post and those on some of the 'how many people do you follow' polls? What I'm seeing is the result of changes tumblr made - specifically the ones that encourage people to use the site like it's twitter.
And like this shouldn't be a surprise because they told us explicitly the changes were intended to make tumblr easier for new users to use - particularly twitter users
Again, based on reading comments here and elsewhere, by making the 'For You' the default tab for new users, tumblr has essentially broken the follow culture by making it so people no longer have to follow other users to populate their dash.
Now all people have to do is create an account, follow a few tags and refresh the For You feed. Why would you bother to follow random people at that point when that might mean seeing other stuff they post that you aren't interested in?
Instead they just let the algo spoon feed them whatever, maybe dip into the tags if they want more of a specific thing, and occasionally open up the following tab if all they want to see is the people they "know".
Personally, as someone trying to get into a new fandom for the first time in a while and running into this new cultural norm, it frankly sucks from a user experience perspective to go out and follow a ton of new people in your new fandom and have no one follow back and show zero interest in interacting with anyone outside their set circle.
I suspect the new proposed Communities is tumblr's attempt to somewhat recapture the community building aspect that's been lost to the algo, but IMO all it will really do is create different silos and further encourage the in-group / out-group mindset that's already taking hold.
Hopefully I'm wrong.
So I just saw a post by a random personal blog that said “don’t follow me if we never even had a conversation before” and?????? Not to be rude but literally what the fuck??????????
I’ve had people (non-pornbots) try to strike conversation out of nowhere in my DMs recently, and now I’m wondering if they were doing that because they wanted to follow me and thought they needed to interact first. I feel compelled to say, just in case, that it’s totally okay to follow this blog (or my side blog, for that matter) even if we’ve never talked before.
Also, I’m legit confused. Is this how follow culture works right now? It was worded like it’s common sense but is that really a thing?
#tl;dr#tumblr was unique because of its culture#and its culture arose from the way the site was designed to be used#and by introducing a new 'default' way to use the site#they're killing off the culture that made it unique#fandom#tumblr
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thank you for your post about the slow burn stuff!!! it really is hard to rectify canon buddie and the ~slow burn~ of it all sometimes when you have the stuff kristin and co. are constantly thrusting in your face... and while i Know logically canon buddie wouldnt be revealed in like. a tvguide article or something i do appreciate the acknowldgement that like. for a lot of people who still do believe in canon buddie, it can also feel like youre being jerked around a little bit! so thank you for that, your takes never miss <33
Hiiii, my love! You're so welcome for that post. I see the tags people leave on my posts and others, and I also have struggled with my own perception of this show after those interviews, so I felt it was time to speak up for those who are being dismissed or looked down on for not trusting the process. IMO, a big reason why our fandom is so quick to invalidate someone's doubts and concerns is that we don't really have a word for what's happening here. This isn't queerbaiting in the usual sense. The social media interns don't encourage fans to vote in polls supporting Buddie (hello, Teen Wolf) or even post much Buddie content in general. Ryan and Oliver have NEVER joked about it. Yeah, Ryan acknowledged the characters were being shipped all over insta and twitter back in season two (which is the closest thing to a "joke" we've gotten), but he has never suggested it could be something more UNLESS IT'S WHAT TIM WANTS. And similarly, Oliver KNOWS to shift any and all "blame" for what happens to Buddie onto the showrunners and writers. Kristen claimed that certain details in previous episodes were framed as jokes (much like Tim with the Christmas Elf scene), but it's not a running theme throughout the series. Characters don't call them out on their "crushes" beyond Maddie in season two, or assume they're a couple (or act like a married couple). No one is questioning whether Buck is Christopher's second dad, or if he actually lives at the Diaz residence. There hasn't even been an outside POV where someone's like "You have a GF? I thought you were gay..." What IS happening, however, is Tim & Kristen continuously being presented with the opportunity to deny the likelihood of canon!Buddie, but they're not taking it; and while for some this means "they can't deny what they know is gonna happen", for others it just feels like their emotions are being played with. Give a queer fan the tiniest bit of hope that their slash ship COULD be canon and they're gonna cling to it until the showrunners prove them wrong. We're not supposed to accuse 9-1-1 of queerbaiting the fans? Okay, fine. Can we at least admit the fandom is being manipulated, though?
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Plain Flag Poll Response Breakdown
This post is a breakdown of the data collected in the Plain Flag Poll [linked here] as of 5/5/2021. For the breakdown of the Symbol Flag Poll data please click here. Because I am concerned about the readmore breaking and the length of this post, it will not be put into the main tags.
All images are transcribed. (This post may be reblogged with additional data when more unique responses are collected, you’ll be able to see this in the notes)
Poll Info: Participants were asked to pick which flag from each “category” of proposal/variant they felt the most connected to, or which was simply their “favorite”. If they wanted to, they were also given an optional question in which to explain their choice from the previous section. At the end of the poll, participants were asked to pick a flag out of the overall selection based on the previous criteria (connection/favorite) and, optionally, explain their choice.
Overall, 54 unique responses were recorded.
Question #1
[ Image Description: A pie chart is shown. The question at the top is “Out of the ‘Original’ flag proposals, which is your favorite/which do feel the most connection to?”. The response data is 43.4% for “5-stripe simplified”, 39.6% for “Original”, 15.1% for “6-stripe simplified #2″, and 1.9% for “6-stripe Simplified #1″. ]
Participants who choose to explain their selection in Question 1b. responded with the following.
Participants who selected 5-stripe simplified (10 participants did not respond)
"easy to remember”
“simple with good color contrast, easy to replicate“
“I like that the teal/green and blue each have 2 stripes instead if one having more than other other. The original just feels like too many stripes”
“Most aesthetically pleasing and personal connection due to using it!“
“it's a good amount of stripes IMO. not too little, not too many. plus, it's an uneven number, so it feels symmetrical, too.“
“White is centered, more eye-catching contrast.“
“I prefer 5 stripe flags, I like the symmetry, 5 stripe is easier to draw, easier to make merch in, simpler, bolder, looks nicer to me. i also like to put the trans flag and other flags side by side and so it's nice for me when they have the same stripe number.”
“aesthetically it matches the trans flag with the 2 stripes above and below the white trans line and makes it look nice when used with the trans flag“
“There’s less stripes which stops the colours blending together in my eyes.“
“I generally prefer more compact flags. they're easier to replicate irl, like on merchandise, and are better for icons and edits online.“
“I think a part of pride flags should be simplicity and reproducibility. Too many stripes might be difficult to remember and reproduce.“
“I like either the original or the 5 stripe simplified; slightly prefer the 5 stripe simplified because it's more "readable" if that makes sense. Like if I was describing it I could say Its a flag made of ‘dark green, light green, white, light blue, and dark blue stripes’ vs ‘dark green... medium(?) green, lighter green...’.”
“I think this version is easier to be made in large scale.“
Participants who selected Original (10 participants did not respond)
“I think the symmetrical ones with the white stripe in the middle look most aesthetically pleasing!”
“I like the 7 stripe best, but the 5 stripe is good too. I don't like the 6 stripe designs because they are unbalanced“
“I love the mirroring and balance, as well as the fact it reminds me of old leather and bear flags. plus I kinda hate that there are so many five stripe flags, it feels like they’re all mirroring the trans flag. the five stripe ones are really abrupt in colour change as well, and having more than five stripes really sets this flag apart. other five stripe variant flags were rooted in art theft, so using this five stripe might encourage use of the others, which upsets me. I also like that it’s similar to the lesbian flag; like two sides of a coin!“
“I really like the original and also the blue/purple six stripe!! I just really love the blue on it and also odd numbers make me really happy so the 7 stripes just feel right to me.”
“absolutely hate asymmetry so definitely neither of the 6 stripe simplified flags. The 5 stripe simplified doesn't have enough / the right colors to convey the same thing the original does. The 5 stripe is duller and more shallow somehow.“
“I think the original is the best out of these, but I think the 6-stripe simplified (more green/teal) could work if you were able to keep the light blue stripe somehow, since i liked the symbolism of the light blue to purple transition but the top stripes in the 6-stripe simplified (more blue/purple) don't look too good. i think the white stripe is better as the 4th stripe not the 3rd.“
“I like the colour variation“
“I like the evenness, and I just like the look of the thinner stripes on the original in contrast to the 5 stripe simplified.”
“I feel it to be the most coherent and aesthetically pleasing.”
“I use both the original and the 5 striped version but I have a physical version of the original and I love being able to show the meaning behind the stripes“
“I feel a connection with the colors and I like the transition they make into white. I chose the original, but my second option would be the second 6-stripe version because it's more different to the lesbian flag and I feel less connected to the blue parts (not purple).“
Participants who selected 6-stripe simplified #2 [more green/teal] (3 participants did not respond)
"IMO the 6-stripe flags are much better to use to differentiate from the lesbian flag and to match other gay mlm flags (autistic gay, she/her gay, etc).”
“I prefer the 6 striped flag because then the flag doesn’t “look like a hue shifted lesbian flag” like so many people claim it to be. -J“
“I think it eliminates the "it's a recolor of the lesbian flag" argument as there is a stripe number difference, plus the placement of the white stripe looks more "pleasing" there !“
“I think the colors on the version with more green/teal are my favorite out of all of them, although i love them all! I like the greens.”
The one Participant who selected 6-stripe Simplified #1 [more blue/purple] did not respond.
Question #2
[ Image Description: A pie chart is shown. The question at the top is “Out of the ‘Warm’ flag proposals, which is your favorite/which do feel the most connection to? (proposal credit @undeadedits)”. The response data is 41.5% for “Warm Original”, 37.7% for “Warm 5-stripe Simplified”, 13.2% for “Warm 6-stripe Simplified #2 (More Teal)”, and 7.5% for “Warm 6-stripe Simplified #1 (More Purple)”. ]
Participants who choose to explain their selection in Question 2b. responded with the following.
Participants who selected Warm Original (17 participants did not respond)
“the greens and purples are really nice, plus same reasons above“ (see Q1, Response #3 of “Participants who selected Original”, shown above)
“same reason as above“ (see Q1, Response #5 of “Participants who selected Original”, shown above)
“Similar answer to before, though I do also like the 6 stripe simplified with more purple, as it makes the blue toned colours look nice. “ (see Q1, Response #8 of “Participants who selected Original”, shown above)
“honestly i just really like the Vibes this one gives off. :)“
“For the same reasons as before. I also prefer the warm versions of the flag because they make the purple more obvious.“ (see Q1, Response #11 of “Participants who selected Original”, shown above)
Participants who selected Warm 5-stripe Simplified (13 participants did not respond)
"I feel the 6-stripes original has a more solemn vibe and the mid-color gives a better blending feel. For the warm, the 5-stripes simplicity actually helps giving that softer vibe, and it helps the aesthetic.”
“simple to remember but this time better because it is warm :)“
“Most aesthetically pleasing- other options are too busy in my opinion“
“same reason as above“ (see Q1, Response #8 of “5-stripe simplified”, shown above)
"Same as the other flag. Less stripes better.” (see Q1, Response #9 of “5-stripe simplified”, shown above)
"For the same reasons.” (see Q1, Response #11 of “5-stripe simplified”, shown above)
"I think this version is easier to be made in large scale.”
Participants who selected Warm 6-stripe Simplified #2 [More Teal] (4 participants did not respond)
"I dunno what draws me to the 4th option, but it just feels right to me. I think it fits :)”
(repeat of Q1, Response #1 of “6-stripe simplified #2″, shown above)
“Same as 1b, plus I also prefer the darker blue and three greens to the darker green and three blues cuz it feels more equal?? As if the white is a reeeeeaaaaally light blue. -J“
The 4 Participants who selected Warm 6-stripe #1 [More Purple], did not respond.
Question #3
[ Image Description: A pie chart is shown. The question at the top is “Out of the ‘Philadelphia’ flag proposals, which is your favorite/which do feel the most connection to?”. The response data is 24.5% for ‘Warm 5-stripe Philadelphia’, 22.6% for ‘Original Philadelphia ‘, 20.8% for ‘5-stripe Philadelphia’, 15.1% for ‘Warm Original Philadelphia’, 9.4% for ‘Alternative Original Philadelphia’, and 7.5% for ‘Alternative 5-stripe Philadelphia’. ]
Participants who choose to explain their selection in Question 3b. responded with the following.
Participants who selected Warm 5-stripe Philadelphia (8 participants did not respond)
"again it's simple/easy to remember and also warm colours >>>”
“Most aesthetically pleasing (but not a POC so my opinion carries no weight!)“
“again I hate asymmetry but the black and brown stripes look really really awkward when separated. the reason I chose the warm one is because it makes the color contrast easier on the eyes.“
“I prefer the brown stripes to the philly flag's black and brown stripes since the black stripe originally represented victory over aids, and tbh, the colors are much more appealing. as for stripe count, it's pretty much the same as above. the expanded flags are especially cumbersome when you add the two extra stripes on top.“
“I feel more connected to the warm flags and I think that 9 stripes are maybe too many.“
Participants who selected Original Philadelphia (10 participants did not respond)
“I’m not a fan of Philadelphia flags in general (I'm not in the US and it isn’t used in my country), but the original variant keeps the stripes in line with other Philadelphia designs. black stripe still might be an oof bc of the aids flag black stripe, but that’s not well known anyway”
“I think the original one with the inclusive stripes on top just feels much better. I like seeing the inclusive stripes on the top in their original colors, without any tints, so this one happens to be my favorite and I would definitely buy it.”
Participants who selected 5-stripe Philadelphia (7 participants did not respond)
"The original 5 stripe is my favorite of the flags, and adding two more stripes really makes the original flag look like a barcode haha”
“It's the most visually appealing, and easiest to look at, plus it mimics the original Philly Pride Flag in having the black and brown stripes before the regular stripes.“
“This version has the black and brown stripes at the top, which matches with the idea of black visibility and black representation.“
“For the same reasons, even tho there are more stripes, it's just the 5-stripes version (easy to remember) plus the two stripes for black and brown communities.“ (see Q1, Response #11 of “5-stripe simplified”, shown above)
Participants who selected Warm Original Philadelphia (5 participants did not respond)
“The warmer browns go better with the overall tones I think”
“I don't really think I have an input since I'm white, but I just find it the most visually appealing“
“The warm allows the colours to blend more cohesively, where the original seems to contrast in an awkward way.”
Participants who selected Alternative Original Philadelphia (3 participants did not respond)
“The alt design of the “Philadelphia” flag feel more equal and less of being added on. -J“
“I just think it looks cool! the original Philadelphia is also really good.“
Participants who selected Alternative 5-stripe Philadelphia (3 participants did not respond)
“I like symmetry. i don't think my opinion matters much here bc I'm not BIPOC“
Question #4
[ Image Description: A pie chart is shown. The question at the top is “Out of the ‘Pink’ flag proposals, which is your favorite/which do feel the most connection to? (proposal credit @IanBlazquez)”. The response data is 62.3% for ‘Pink/Purple 5-stripe’ and 37.7% for Pink/Purple Original. ]
Participants who choose to explain their selection in Question 4b. responded with the following.
Participants who selected Pink/Purple 5-stripe (23 participants did not respond
“I think you see the trend it's easier to remember the layout of and stuff”
“I think all the 5 stripe flags look better than the 7+ ones as they're simpler and easier to look at“
“the 5 stripe simplified pretty much conveys the same thing as the original so i don't have much of a preference beyond it being simpler so it's a lot easier to process.“
“again, i like less stripes. don't like either of them very much though“
“same reason as above.“ (see Q1, Response #8 of “5-stripe simplified”, shown above)
“For the same reasons, even tho I'm not a fan of this design overall, it reminds me too much a reversed genderqueer flag (if that's the purpose, I'm sorry and I understand it).“ (see Q1, Response #11 of “5-stripe simplified”, shown above)
“I don't really like these but the 5 stripe is better“
“I think this version is easier to be made in large scale.“
“I think the pink/purple original might feel a little too similar to the lesbian pride flag, which people have felt uncomfortable with/ complained about before. so I would prefer the five stripe design for this one.“
“It is simpler and easier to reproduce.“
Participants who selected Pink/Purple Original (15 participants did not respond)
“I like the more carnation-y green, but this one is a bit eye-strain-y tbh”
“I don't have too much of a connection of either of them (they look a bit similar to the genderqueer flag IMO), but I have a slight preference for the seven-stripe one.“
“once again, odd numbers.... I think this is so pretty!!“
“While I would love a six striped flag (reasoning for this on 1b), I adore the seven striped flag. It almost feels more inclusive in a way, I guess? -J“
“Similar response to the previous Original type flags, nice thin stripes.”
Question #5
[ Image Description: A pie chart is shown. The question at the top is “Out of all of the above, which is your favorite/which do feel the most connection to?”. The response data is 28.3% for ‘5-stripe Simplified’, 26.4% for ‘Original Draft Proposal’, 17% for ‘Warm Original’, 9.4% for ‘Warm 5-stripe Simplified’, 7.5% for ‘6-stripe Simplified #2 (more green/teal)’, and 1.9% for ‘Warm 6-stripe Simplified #2 (More Teal)’, ‘5-stripe Philadelphia’, ‘Pink/Purple Original’, and ‘Warm 6-stripe Simplified #1 (More Purple)’. ]
Participants who choose to explain their selection in Question 4b. responded with the following.
Participants who selected 5-stripe Simplified (9 participants did not respond)
"I like the 5-stripe simplified one best as I feel it's the most aesthetically pleasing, and I feel its colours represent the gay community best out of all of them. I've also used it for a while so I feel a strong connection to it! <3″
“good amount of stripes + the color scheme that I'm most familiar with“
“same reason as above“ (see Q1, Response #8 of “5-stripe simplified”, shown above)
“I actually really like Ian's 5-stripe pink/purple iteration of the flag. the colors are pleasing and I like that there's a bit more variation in the stripes, but the pink triangle being part of the symbolism for the pink stripe makes me feel kinda weird. Jewish LGBT people have repeatedly expressed discomfort with gentiles using/claiming the pink triangle since it's holocaust imagery. I do like pink as a stripe color overall, though. it's just that point that makes me unwilling to use that particular design. I do think, overall, that i prefer the cool colors of the original design, and I'm a big fan of the symbolism there.“
“Definitely easy to reproduce, simple and relatable. Love it.“
“The less colours in a flag for me the better; It's easy to recognize among all the others! I would also add that I really like a version of the flag that uses the colours of the original without the darkest purple and green.“
Participants who selected Original Draft Proposal (10 participants did not respond)
“myself one as soon as pridenation started selling them, and it makes me feel really represented and appreciated when I see this flag anywhere. thank you for making it. “
“the original one just really captures my attention :)“
“It's the prettiest I guess? second choice would be the warm version of the original because it's a lot more purple which is nice.“
“Seeing this flag finally made me feel like I had my own flag! The original was the first one I saw, and I became attached to it. I tend to see the rainbow as an all encompassing flag for the LGBTQ, in contrast to people tending to see the rainbow as only for gay men.“
Participants who selected Warm Original (7 participants did not respond)
“As a gay man, I would probably use the warmer flags. They strike me as more friendly without straying too far from the more recognized variant. I'm also biased because, well, I'm a lowkey twink, and I like the pinkish undertones. Personally, I'm against any flag that looks unbalanced, where the white stripe seems "off". My second choice would be the pink & purple one. The history of the color pink is incredibly important.”
“I prefer the warm colors because they emphasize the purple and I feel more connection to purple than to blue. I also like the structure of the original flag.”
Participants who selected Warm 5-stripe Simplified (4 participants did not respond)
“it is just simply better idk”
Participants who selected 6-stripe Simplified #2 [more green/teal] (2 participants did not respond)
“IMO the 6-stripe flags are much better to use to differentiate from the lesbian flag and to match other gay mlm flags (autistic gay, she/her gay, etc).”
“if the six-stripe simplified flag with the philly stripes were an option i would totally pick it, otherwise this one is my absolute favorite. it feels much more like its own flag and I really just appreciate the composition of the colors and stripes more.“
Participants who selected Warm 6-stripe Simplified #2 (More Teal)
“it makes the purple more apparent.”
Participants who selected 5-stripe Philadelphia
“I rather those shades of blue than the purple ones and I think it's important to add visibility to black and brown people.”
Participants who selected Pink/Purple Original
“I like the pink/purple flag because it makes it feel less of the stereotypical blue masculinity for men. Purple especially is nice because it can be both pinkish (“feminine”) and blueish (“masculine”). I’m GNC and I love when I’m able to show that and be represented in such, even with a shade of color! -J”
Participants who selected Warm 6-stripe Simplified #1 (More Purple), 6-stripe Simplified #1 (More Blue/Purple), and Warm 6-stripe Simplified #1 (More Purple) did not respond.
Conclusion
Participants who responded showed an interest in
Reproducibility of a flag/ability to easily make physical flags
An “easy to remember” and “easy to recognize” flag
Flag aesthetics/personal color preference
Number, symmetry, and size/thickness of flag stripes
Personal connection, feeling represented by the flag
Ability to connect and show the flag alongside other pride flags (e.g. the trans flag)
Many participants expressed that they used multiple flags.
[ If you’re wondering why I’m not sharing or linking the poll spreadsheet, this is because personal emails are collected by Google Polls from each participant as they respond and I don’t want to make these public. I apologize if any numbers are slightly off. Some participant’s responses were un-censored for the sake of screenreaders. ]
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