#i mean yosuke and naoto are my fav. i love yu but he dances like it's 80s disco so unfortunately he's in second

[daily-hanamura]

I was wondering if you had any analyses on yosuke's dances in P4D, especially his partner dances wrt his character/personality... or even just generally what you thought of his moves. I think atlus/p-studio enjoy putting more than meets the eye into the choreography for the dances, but i wondered what the account that does really good yosuke analyses thinks. >:) Cheers

Oh wow you're very kind!! but this is also a very high level ask as I am not at all a dance expert and I'm still working my way through all of the dances, but I will do my best! o7

Long post incoming!

I remember reading an interview which said that Yosuke's dance style is very much inspired by male idols with a hip-hop flair, and I can definitely see it in his dance? iirc there was a pretty strong influence of hip-hop in jpop of that era - I'm thinking about Johnny's entertainment boybands which I think pretty much dominated the jpop male idol scene around 2010 - just look at Arashi's Monster dance routine, which imo is a super quintessential dance of that time. Like Jun's breakdance around 0:45, but also more generally, the sort of precise, rapid-pace footwork and moves that is also very evident in both Backside of the TV and Your Affection. I think it really suits him for a few reasons

Yosuke generally has the highest agility stat and tends to be the fastest char (for me at least? but i've also seen enough fics that reference how quick he moves), so it makes sense that this sort of high-pace dance suits him. Obviously Yosuke has a very good sense of beat listening to music all the time in combat and moving with it, so despite his real world clumsiness, he's well equipped to take on the kind of rigorous idol dance style that's typically very demanding to learn and perfect.

At the same time, it also matches his narrative - Yosuke in canon is very familiar with idol culture, both with Risette and Kanamin Kitchen, so it's not too surprising? But what I thought was kind of interesting was that there aren't really any references to male idol groups in world, and even his bedroom in p4au only shows female idol posters and some mainstream American albums. However, in the interview scene at the end of p4d, he mentions to Yukiko that he's tried to copy moves from stuff he's seen. But his dance style is more similar to boy idol bands - with the hip hop influence especially - as opposed to being similar to female idol bands - which tend to be preppier in dance style (see AKB48 for example). (Or just compare Rise's dance with Yosuke's.) So idk if this is a random oversight on Atlus/P-Studio's part, or if Yosuke is a closet male idol enjoyer (which would be very funny but also on brand for him, especially if he's still in the closet).

The other thing about idol music and group idol dance styles more generally is how much emphasis there is on harmony. If you look at the Arashi video again, there's kind of the expectation that all members are dancing in sync with each other. The thing about that sort of group dance is that you don't really have "leads" and "backup" dances, because no one member is really supposed to stand out or take centre stage since they're all equals. And I think that's a fun thing to think about because, you know, Yosuke Rank 10. But it's also in his partner dances with the others - I feel like Yosuke tends to harmonise with the others and their dance styles the most, maybe he's second to Yu? But Yosuke tends to match his dancing to the style of the other person when he joins them in Fever, like in Naoto's or Chie's (caveat, maybe I'm just Yosuke-biased LMAO). I think there's a lot to say about it because on the one hand, his captain ressentiment attitude means he sees his friends as better but he also wants to catch up to them and be their equals! but also, on the other hand, Yosuke doesn't want to stand out? And him keeping his head down is very much in character for him throughout most of the game, so :')

(but also souyo lens time his partner dances with yu is SO GOOD they mirror one another so well and it makes me so weak)

I think my final point is on how idol dancing is kind of on brand for him as well? Yosuke is kind of a vain person - he likes fashionable clothes! He likes to look cool! (and we love him for it!!) - and I think one thing that kind of marks idol dancing compared to, idk, interpretive dancing as an extreme example, is how idol dances tend to emphasize... looking good? The whole point of idols is to sell them on their aesthetics, after all, and good looks are kind of a minimum criteria to being in an idol group. The dances are choreographed to maximise the dancer's appeal, so it's all smooth moves that present them in the best light.

Those are my extremely long thoughts!! but yeah tldr I think his dance style really suits him on every level I can't imagine anything better for him ngl. Anyone with more expert knowledge feel free to pitch in though

[thegayone23456]

Alright Persona No Nuance November time because I fucking said so (these are mainly gonna be 4 and 5 since I haven't finished 3 quite yet)

I feel like people often overlook how Yosuke throughout the entire game had to heal from the fact that the love of his life/closest friend was murdered. Cause I mean- it fucking happened

The Kanji sexuality debate is stupid. He can be gay and guess what, Kanji can be bi. Hell I see Kanji as Bisexual. Long story short, that man is NOT straight

Same goes for Naoto, they are NOT cis

While we are at it the "Is Yosuke homophobic?" Debate is also really fucking stupid. Yosuke is not homophobic, yeah he does make mean comments at kanji, but I don't think they are meant to put him down. Yeah I hate Yosuke for that but like come on. If anything that man is suspiciously bisexual

Also Naoto is truly the one to blame for the namatame scene, not yosuke. Naoto really said, "hmmmmm you know there's a really large tv in this room yeah? What if we ya know, commit a murder?"

I personally think Sumire is a better-written character when it comes to plot relevance than Marie any day mainly cause Sumire is integrated into the story a lot more and Marie is just... there

I feel like if Haru in some way was integrated into the story more and had more relevance to the plot more like how Naoto was in P4, I feel like Haru could've been a great character

Theo and Margaret are best velvet room attendants

I just do not like sh**ke what so ever

Same goes for So**ao the writers can go sit in the corner and think about what they've done

Y'all know how I feel about Shiromura those two are fucking bros and they should've gotten more screentime together

The persona dancing games for the most part are my favorite spinoff titles (mainly 4) and I love what they did with some of the remixes, my personal fav being deep breath from P3D (even tho it sounds nothing like the actual song, I still love it tho)

Even tho I REALLY do Love Yu, he is just bad at giving advice sometimes

I know I've talked about it a lot with my friends but, Yosuke feels so much more like a main character than Yu. Literally all the events in the game started because of Yosuke, even the formation of the IT was Yosuke

The bathhouse scenes no matter what game we are talking about all suck and should also sit in the corner and think about what they've done

Rokuro Saito is one of the best persona manga artists I've fucking seen (so far), his art is so gorgeous and everytime he writes and illustrates a new persona manga you know he's putting his all in his drawings, here's a few that I like: