#i mean the line is not exactly ''i'm a faggot'' but it basically is. very little of that is changed.
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it's not that i'm angry at people somehow always Just Now Finding Out Billie Joe Is Bisexual it's that i'm just genuinely confused. how do you glance over the line "i'm a faggot" in their literal most popular song.
#i mean the line is not exactly ''i'm a faggot'' but it basically is. very little of that is changed.#salem's random thoughts#green day#billie joe armstrong
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WELL now I have an excuse to talk about it.
My url is a reference to the novel The Master And Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov written between 1928 and 1940. Bulgakov was Ukrainian (if anyone calls him "one of the greatest Russian writers" I will be UPSET) but obviously then it was the Soviet Union and well. Things were very very censored.
Wikipedia describes it as "The story concerns a visit by the devil to the officially athiestic Soviet Union. The Master and Margarita combines supernatural elements with satirical dark comedy and Christian philosophy, defying categorization within a single genre. Many critics consider it to be one of the best novels of the 20th century, as well as the foremost of Soviet satires."
So yeah basically the Devil, Woland, and his crew including a talking cat who plays chess and owns a gun and who is veeeery witty and sarcastic named Behemoth, a vampire demon succubus lady called Hella, a guy who wears checkered suits and it's implied he used to be an angelic choir conductor (he's the least violent one) called Koroviev (fun fact sometimes they call him faggot lol, фагот means bassoon in some slavic languages), an assassin with fangs called Azazello and yeah that's it I think, visit Moscow. In the first scene an editor and a poet are discussing how Jesus wasn't real, and Woland sits down beside them and basically says "no, he is. I've met him."
The novel switches between the stories of Woland and co, Ivan (the aforementioned poet, but only for the first half of the book. Sad. I like him 🙁), and some biblical chapters mostly from the point of view of Pontias Pilate. Another plotline that comes in about halfway through is about the Master and Margarita themselves (woo title characters!)
Basically, it's never really revealed who exactly the Master is. But a lot of people think he's some reflection of the author Bulakov himself. Idk I think there is definitely some truth to that. Especially when you're told about how the Master wrote books but burned his manuscripts (hence the line "Manuscripts don't burn). How does this tie in? Ok now for history:
Obviously, everything was horrifically censored in the Soviet Union. He started writing the novel, then was terrified that it would be found and he would be killed, the novel destroyed. So, he burned the manuscripts in 1930. He kept repeatedly writing manuscripts, I'm not sure how many but like.. a LOT. And the plot was pretty different in some of them. Actually, in one, margarita didn't even exist. A veeeery censored version was published in the Moskva journal in 1966 after he died (he died in 1940), and then basically it became this whole underground thing. A manuscript was smuggled to Paris where it was first published, the Moskva version was smuggled to Estonia, translated to Estonian, and published there, and for decades it was the only version that existed in the Soviet Union. Mick Jagger wrote Sympathy For The Devil about it after he was smuggled a copy.
It's quite literally the most colourful peice of art ever. It's wild, satirical, colourful, loud, so full of culture and it is, literally, life changing. It's my dad's favourite book and it is in my BLOOD to reccomend it to everyone. Thank youuuu for listening to my nonsense ♥️
i thoroughly enjoyed reading the entirety of this <333
THIS IS SO COOL I DIDNT THINK IT WENT THAT DEEP i have literally never heard of this before in my life Koroviev Is So Me (фагот) I WANNA REAS THIS NOW ☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️ THAT SOUNDS SO SO INTERESTING AND RIGHT UP MY ALLEY AND mick jagger jumpscare
#did NOT know pontias pilandbsjwhayever was a bible guy#thought mozart was just going crazy writing lyrics for coronation mass credo#anja tag 🥀#THANK UUU FOR TELIMG ME ABT THIS
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Yeah, Catullus gets censored a lot! I suspect a bit of it is just that we often get this idea of poets and poetry as... Light and fluffy?
Probably just because of what gets taught in schools. You end up getting the impression that a poems are about one of
Being sad
Walking through nature
Being sad whilst walking through nature.
Which is a slightly reductive take on a whole fucking medium.
Anyway, Catullus was less the stereotypical "upper class guy with a lot of education who loves nature and being depressed" sort of poet and is more to the "battle rapper" end of poetry.
He's got multiple poems that are basically diss tracks. This is exactly why Poem 16 (this one) comes straight out the gate with "I AM GOING TO BUTTFUCK AND FACEFUCK YOU" (lowercase letters wouldn't be developed for a few hundred more years, by definition everything Catullus wrote was in ALL UPPERCASE): Catullus is directing this poem at Marcus Furius Bibaculus (Bibaculus to his friends), who had an affair with Juventius: a woman Catullus had a (possibly unrequited) love for. In fact, this sort of reputation is part of what Catullus is saying. He's like "oh, you think I'm some weak pansy faggot because I'm a poet? Let's see how you feel after I shove my huge* manly dick up all your holes, bitch."
Anyway the whole reason I was supposed to be replying is to talk about how Latin is an amazing language to swear in. They've got some very fun words like irrumo, ittumare which means basically "to fuck someone's mouth", but in a single word. Face-fuck is really the best translation English has, and that's two words.
Plus Latin is an infected language! He didn't just say "face fuck", he said the first person singular future active indicative of "face fuck".
Irrumabo is a single word that packs all this info into its infected form. It's not just "what" (face fucking), it's who and when and how.
Who: me, singular. "We" are not going to face fuck you, I, personally, and going to face fuck you.
When: in the future. This is a thing that's going to happen. Latin has multiple moods for this, the indicative, imperative, and subjunctive.
He doesn't use the subjunctive, which'd mean "I hope I facefuck you: it'd be great if someday I get to face fuck you".
He doesn't use the imperative, which is for stating commands. He's not saying "get facefucked, idiot".
He uses the indicative. This is for stating facts. He's saying this as just a thing that will happen. As surely as the sun will rise tomorrow... I will facefuck you.
It's also active not passive, which means it's not "you will be facefucked by me". It's active, meaning it's "I am going to facefuck you".
The word is also derived from the word for teats? As in, it meant something like suckling?
Catullus is saying you're going to suck his cock like a baby feeding from their mother, and he's going to make you do this. This is just a thing that is going to happen.
And he says that all in ONE SINGLE WORD.
Latin is a lovely language for this sort of thing.
(there's also a lot of fascinating stuff about the second line of the poem: he calls Aurelius as pathicus, and Furius a cinaedus. These mean slightly different things! Translating them as "cocksucker" and "butt boy" is definitely one way to do it, but there's more to say about this, but this post is already way too long)
Anyway, while "first poet to ever get his bone on" is highly inaccurate (Sappho was centuries earlier! You think a woman who was so gay she gave us two of our words for WLW didn't BONE?), he definitely was one of the poets who most noticeably Absolutely Fucked and he made sure you knew it.
* he wouldn't have said "huge", this is a localization for our culture. The ancient romans thought big dicks were ugly, unrefined, and comical. (They borrowed this from the ancient greeks, incidentally)
you cant even begin poems with "i will sodomise and facef uck you" anymore. because of woke .
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