#i made an edit of the interview should i post i prfer my version 2 be honest

[iwishf1wasreal]

I'm new to F1 and have no idea why ppl hate Daniel and Max...what did both of them do?

first and foremost, welcome! i hope you're enjoying f1!

secondly...this is a lot of lore to squeeze into one post. i think most of the max hate started with the 2021 championship controversy. if you've seen DTS, its goes into it all but that caused a really big divide in f1. max has been called out by the mongolian government for using slurs on the radio and he didnt really have the best reaction. his gf, kelly piquet, is the daughter for former f1 driver nelson piquet, who had some pretty nasty racist things to say about lewis (tho max did say it was wrong to say them...but also defended nelson's character :/). i'm sure theres more but that's all i have off the top of my head.

as for daniel, i was a huge daniel fan. i put time and money into that little elf. then he did an interview with barstool sports that was that start of my disillusionment. he's always been pretty douchey-frat-boy-y with edgelord humor and obvious pandering to his male fans (despite probably having more women fans but i digress). in the interview, daniel makes a joke about women driving. extremely original material, we've never heard that in the 31 years since a woman last raced in formula one. he has a long history of making jokes like that--quite literally too many examples to put into one post. most recently, he publicly supported Christian horner after he was accused of harassment and said he felt for him. it just felt like such a slap in the face considering how hard it is to just be a FAN that's a woman around motorsport. getting sexually harassed at races or at work and spammed online by meninist losers isn't enough, the drivers feel they need to start shitting on us too. so, i still have a lot of frustration towards him because men ages 13-65 love daniel and when he acts like that, it only emboldens them to do it too. and ten times worse because they dont have a public image or brand to protect.

but its f1, there's always a reason to hate everyone. seriously, name any driver and they have something that makes you look at them a lil different. it is the sport of war crimes, tax evaison and crusty old europeans assholes.