#i made a pretty decent point and i'm not having it spun this badly again lol
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fireh0es · 1 year ago
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Yeah, I deleted it because I decided that with how tired the battles I face IRL make me, I didn't want to deal with being snapped at by some person on the internet who was inevitably going to explode when told someone thought their take was bad. Your response is pretty emotional and not surprising based on what I was expecting to see.
You latched pretty hard to some pretty insane assumptions, maybe out of a need to. Idk, not my business to know why. I'm just really not going to just deal with being misrepresented because you feel angry though.
1. I didn't say specifically that you were talking about me as a person- I said myself and people like me who were posting about it and being vocal about how upsetting it was and trying to call her out. It's a bit tone-deaf to post that people are just virtue signalling in the middle of all this fandom discourse about Edy. I'm autistic and even I know that. I'm also not going to see a post on my FYP that I really just think is arguing a bad faith point, go into the reblogs, scour for your previous reblogs then read the tags on those. That would be crazy.
2. I'm sorry I called out white suburban kids that try to feel mightier than thou because they hang around online and don't, ya know, actually do anything. I know the 'w' word can be a real piss off in some circles but I'm not backing down from that point because I feel like it's valid whether or not it pertained to you. Not really my fault that you happen to be white and didn't like the mention of that phenomenon.
3. You're pretty wrong on trying to guess what my opinion hinges on. I never said we shouldn't call out celebrities- I said that acting like those calling her out are just virtue signalling for clout is an inherently bad faith argument that people who do nothing use to feel superior to those that do anything. You don't know how people stick up for others IRL, so you shouldn't make sweeping generalizations that imply it's all a show when people do. Again, this is about timing and context. It wouldn't have been so weird if it didn't show up on my FYP in the middle of the Edy discourse. Again, Im responding to a post I saw on the For You Page. I didn't hunt you down specifically.
4. I definitely don't think that myself and the people I care about are the only people that have ever gone through hardship and that's the most bizarre, absurd response I can think of that you could glean from my reblog. I stated that I was part of a few groups that sadly meant my entire country pretty much hates me to the point that I was assaulted twice during COVID, so I can understand viscerally what trans people are dealing with right now (I brought up my friend as examples of how bad trans people have it right now) and have no tolerance towards bigotry or people claiming that those calling it out aren't doing so genuinely. Whether you like it or not that's the vibe you gave off. This is truly where my issue lies- because it's pretty gross to claim that I would say that only I and others I knew could experience hardship.
5. You aren't trying to be nice with your response, you don't need to pretend that you are. You've stated that my reblog totally enraged you. You've repeatedly mischaracterized me and have made wild claims about what I'd said while claiming that I'm dismissing your experiences. It's a bit hypocritical and honestly annoying. Especially when I deleted to avoid this kind of freak out.
I had a point of view that was different to yours and I shared it. I don't 'need' to move on and keep quiet, it's not the 1950's anymore. If you don't like it, that's fine, you can also ignore my reblog. People can hold different opinions and say they think yours are bad and it shouldn't get you 'literally shaking with anger'. I deleted before to not make a scene but now I'm going to reblog with clarification because you've said some pretty erroneous things here that deserve to be cleared up. All I can say is that you might want to consider your timing and what look it gives next time.
This isn't debate class and I'm not going to continue a pointless argument, Im just clarifying my viewpoint because it's definitely not the one you've outlined here. I'm not going to cower and change what I feel because you're angry. I'm just going to say my piece regardless, which is kind of doing what your original post said, is it not?
@fireh0es you deleted your reblog of my post before I could post my response and maybe that should be my sign to just let it go but the thing about me is when something pisses me off I’m not so good at letting it go so
If you think my post felt pointed at you for making posts calling out Edy’s transphobia I can guarantee you it wasn’t because first of all, I don’t know you nor have I seen your posts, and second of all, before you decided to rant on my post you could’ve taken the two seconds to investigate and see that the very first reblog of this post was my own, clarifying that the post is not about the Edy’s transphobia. Seems like something you would’ve wanted to do before making as many assumptions as you’ve made, so let’s address those.
Bold of you to assume I’m not part of any group that’s targeted for hateful rhetoric, because I very much am, and am also capable of feeling empathy for the groups I’m not a part of. Novel concept, I guess.
Also your whole argument seems to mostly hinge on the idea that my post is saying we shouldn’t call celebrities out for harmful things, which is not what I said. My post is pointing out how much easier it is for a lot of people to call out someone they don’t know for something they would overlook in someone they know. Maybe that’s not something you feel is true for you, ok, fine, this post is not for you, move along. There are a lot of people it is true for, and I hate to be the one to break it to you, but not all of those people are white, middle class suburb kids. Which, sidebar, was that directed at me? Because, well, I guess you got the white part right. But then, we’ve already established that your reblog was full of assumptions, so.
Honestly, I’ve been trying to be nice in the response but the more I reread your comments in order to formulate my response the angrier I get. I’m sorry that you’ve had such shitty stuff happen to you. That really really sucks, and it’s not ok. What’s also not ok is the way you must think you and the people you care about must be the only ones to have ever experienced such hardships. “Because there are people out there that have to face the consequences of unchecked bigotry.” What on earth would possess you to say this unless you think that just by the nature of the post I made I must have never faced bigotry before in my life.
I don’t even care if you agree with my post. I could not possibly care less about that. I’m just literally shaking with anger with the way you have managed to so easily dismissed me and my experiences. And I guess, the experiences of anyone who has reblogged this post and agreed with it by association.
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