#i love movie peeta too but they also did him a disservice

[shoopsthereitis]

i’m actually insane about peeta mellark

[sizzlingpatrolfox]

My theory is that Jm and Jk are making this content together because they are the most succeesful members.

Hybe will never acknowledge Jm’s popularity in any other way, but are going to make him do this content with Jk to make money off of him

That’s it, that’s why is the 2 of them, not V or Rm because jikook got both no 1 on bb etc

Wdym it wasn't Jungkook and Taehyung the it couple, the most successful members whose debut everyone was waiting for and counting on to make history?????

Okay, now that I'm done with the sarcasm...

Aside from the fact that it was something Jimin wanted to do, why did the company suddenly think of it and agreed to it now. (Unless we eventually find out other details about why and how, but I don't know if I'm even going to be here when that happens, so).

Jungkook and Jimin is a pairing that has always worked in many ways, like with the couple of dance units they've had in BTS stages. Or the couple of songs they've sung together, etc.

Apart from that, yes they are the most popular (read popular as in people OUTSIDE OF THE FANDOM have seen them/interacted with their content or music at some point/etc), so all in all I agree that their individual popularity could be a reason.

That's also related to the reach the content has. I've never been one of those people that cry about jikook not being loved; I never cared about that for several reasons that are not relevant right now. One of the reasons that's relevant tho, is that taekook might get the most likes or retweets on their content... but nobody causes conversation the way Jimin does. Whether it's good or bad, Jungkook or Taehyung each on their own, or together, they don't cause conversation. I'm not gloating or anything about Jimin getting hate because I hate it, and I hate when people are like "oh jimin they're hating on you you'll always be famous", but it's a fact that whenever Jimin is involved in something, people will talk about it. I mean, there's a reason his name can't trend in twitter anymore because of the volume of tweets in which he's mentioned every day.

Another thing, probably unpopular, many probably won't get it, and I think that people just don't realize it's happening: Jimin makes Jungkook look good. He makes Jungkook looked loved and worthy of being loved.

Not too long ago I rewatched the hunger games and in the first movie something happens with Katniss and Peeta, I think it was him saying he was in love with her or something. And Haymitch says it was good that Peeta had said that because he'd made Katniss looked desirable. Now, she was perceived as the object of affection of someone.

It's something I've talked about before, how the narrative about Jungkook and the way people perceived him changed when his ships got bigger attention.

This happens to a large scale with all of BTS members, btw. We're just talking specifically about two right now, but the "X member loves Y member, how could you hate them?!" is probably the biggest example of that.

So, there's that too. Jimin's way of treating Jungkook has A LOT of weight on what people think of Jungkook. It might even be a reason of why some pjms can't even stick to one side and are more or less constantly changing their feelings about him.

That's also why I think that if it was solely and exclusively the company calling Jimin up to do this, it was tailored to happen around Jungkook's debut and not before. Because it is good for Jungkook's image.

Finally, Jimin being Jimin. I think many people do a big disservice to Jimin when they talk about why and don't realize how amazing Jimin's personality is. Jikookers especially overlook how awesome, kind, sweet and great he is. They collectively ignore how every single person who's ever met Jimin has made a point to talk about how sweet and kind he is. To most jikookers It's all about how he is with Jungkook when a large part of that is not even about Jungkook, but just how Jimin was raised and how he treats everyone he loves.

Jungkook gets to be a lovely maknae bla bla bla. To jikookers, Jimin's selflessness and beautiful soul only gets talked about in relation to Jungkook.

So another factor of the whole thing is that Jimin's got a GREAT personality. Jin, Hoseok, Jimin, they've always been the one lighting up the mood and making people laugh and taking care of everyone. They're the life of the party, literally. And the company must realize this, too. They're not stupid. They know what works for entertainment and what doesn't. Didn't Jungkook say in that preview that as soon as Jimin arrived it was chaos? Jimin is genuinely so much fun.

It works because Jimin is who he is. It's not even about Taehyung and Jungkook, but it wouldn't work with Yoongi and Jungkook, either. It would be boring simply because they're not Jimin. You can watch any live with Jimin + other member and it's almost always interesting and funny because Jimin makes up for a lot of the mood between two people.

[theghostwrites]

Since we’re talking about the thg trilogy criticism i Hate™️ how the fanbase especially ⚪️ fans make Peeta into this uwu baby boy character when he’s clearly not that and at the same time make Gale into this super terrible person. It is CLEARLY fandom racism. People keep on defending Suzanne Collins as if she wrote THE best trilogy about oppression when the truth is her writing about it is 🗑. Tresh, a Black TEENAGER, is always described as violent, he’s literally semi-illiterate in the books and at the same time even though Gale is also a teenager he was always described as being masculine and treated as an adult. Peeta is NEVER called that at all. He is always called a boy. The white teenager is always called his age and yet the Black and brown teenage boys are always associated with being older than they are and being violent and angry. Fans can deny it all they want but the writing in THG is racist. But yeah keep on talking about how it’s the Best™️ trilogy of all time. Why are you guys expecting a ⚪️ woman to give a nuanced take on oppression that’s like the bare minimum 😐

It's been years since I read THG but I'll take your word for it in this case. I would have to do a re-read to point out specific things like descriptors used for white characters, in opposition to those used for PoCs, like the ones you mention.

The literary contrast I remember (constantly) is the one everyone gushes about: the one where Gale represents war and violence, and Peeta represents peace and healing. A disturbing contrast if you stop to think that within the district 12 social hierarchy, Peeta (the white dude) is among the privileged. So of course he's going to want to plant flowers and paint murals as a form of protest (totally valid acts of activism in the real world, mind you!) if prior to being sent to the arena, he spent his formative years in a relatively safe environment, where his basic needs were covered. The same can't be said for Gale. You can't starve a child and kick him while he's defenseless, and then condemn him when he grows up and bites. This lack of social and racial awareness is appalling to me. To say that this Gale/Peeta dichotomy is purely in good faith, just a metaphor for how Katniss wanted to continue her life, is disingenuous. Collins' final message, despite her "intent", is that violence from the oppressed is just as bad as violence from the oppressor like that lovely anon pointed out a few days ago. If your anger is too great, if you care too much, you don't get the sunset, the flowers, and the happy family after the revolution is won. Sorry, but not really. 😐

The movies did audiences a HUGE disservice by whitewashing Katniss and Gale.

[warriorlid14]

So not terribly so. He's still recognizable. It's not like a Ron situation at all. But he's more watered down. Not as passionate about stuff. No sense of humor, either. More focused on the relations with Katniss. There's like an extra kiss in there that didn't happen in the books and they have a ton of scenes of him staring jealously/sadly into the camera whenever there's an Everlark moment. Which, to be fair, probably happens in the books, too, because, well, he's in love with her. But the difference is that book Gale doesn't bring it up because he knows it's not fair to Katniss.

The biggest disservice, I think, is in MJ when a Peeta interview comes up and calls for a cease fire and he's like "I would never say that! No matter what they did to me. He's a coward." Whereas in the books he's like, "I think he struck a deal with Snow to protect you, Katniss. He's still trying to keep you alive."

Also, Katniss is harsher with movie Gale than she is in the books. But to be fair, Katniss also has some of her personality stripped away in the movies because we lose her inner monologue.

Idk, in my opinion movie Gale is but a hot sack of potatoes. He's not, like, useless. But he's just kind of there.

I never really understood the "Gale doesn't understand Katniss" argument. Like, they can practically read each other's minds?

There's a lot of examples of this, but the funniest I can remember is Katniss just giving him A Look and Gale being like "ah, clearly she's telling me to distract this guard and keep him away from her because she is clearly going to break into this place to rescue whoever is in there." And he's right.