#i love miranjo guys

[jibanyans-chocobar]

Ousama Ranking Doodle Dump + a Kage I drew at one of my school's tables when I started watching the anime (I was like at episode 3 when I drew him back then)

Most of these are based off of memes or reaction pics lol

Try to guess my favorite character (impossible challenge) ‼️ /nf

[voidnoidoid]

My (very late) 3AM thoughts on the final episode of Ousama Ranking (pt 1)

I had decently high hopes for episode 23, I really did. And it (mostly) delivered! Except for one part.

To get the part I didn't like out of the way... you guys probably know what I'm talking about... I'm unhappy about the way Miranjo's redemption was carried out. Daida just goes "I know you've committed a lot of crime, heinous crime. Literal war crimes. Like straight up ordering the murder of Queen Sheena, my brother's mother, for the sake of your selfish goals. And I accept your crimes, because you suffered a lot too." Daida, bless his 12-year old heart, forgave Miranjo for her many misdeeds because of all the pain and suffering she had gone through... by choosing to MARRY her.

Whaaaaat???

There are multiple reasons why this is really weird. First of all, their previous relationship dynamic as well as their age gap. Daida is around the age of 11-14, and Miranjo is a full grown woman, possibly in her mid twenties to thirties. While Miranjo existed as the magic mirror, it was clearly established that she took on the role of a mentor, or perhaps even a maternal figure. She offered advice and counsel to Daida, and thus manipulated him into doing what she wanted according to her plan to use his body as a vessel for Bosse. She was a mentor revealed to be a manipulative traitor. Afterwards, when Daida was trapped in the unfeeling void prison of his father's mind scape, Miranjo's heart, represented by a version of herself when she was a very young child, shows herself to Daida. Daida then proceeds to care for and comfort the young Miranjo much like an older brother. There's a bit of a role reversal here. The cared for became the carer, the guided became the guide. I can somewhat understand Daida when he said to Miranjo, "You were my light in the darkness" because she influenced almost all his actions as Prince, and kept him company and prevented him from going insane in the void. However that line comes off as needlessly dramatic and is over exaggerating Miranjo's role in keeping Daida sane.

Then suddenly, their relationship is framed in a romantic context. Daida goes "im gonna marry miranjo yeah" and even princess carries her and comforts her like... DUDE she manipulated you and hurt you and everyone you love and MADE YOU DRINK YOUR DEAD DAD. How the hell did he come to the conclusion that marrying the one who singlehandedly threw his entire kingdom into chaos was the right choice??? And the worst part? All the adults in the show are okay with this. Yes, they are surprised but in the end... The big 4 are fine with it if Daida's okay. Despa gives some random speech I dont remember but is ultimately fine with the choice. Bojji is surprisingly okay with this?? And finally, Queen Hiling, who had the most violent objection to this, accepts it too. At least her reaction made the most sense. Miranjo just knelt there and cried or whatever. She's grateful yes, but she's totally ok with marrying a kid? She's not gonna like... refuse? yeah ok makes SenSE

This brings me to my second point, Miranjo is/was a shitty person who hurt many people including Daida himself. I'm not gonna list all the bad things she's done because if you're reading this, you've either finished the whole anime or making the silly choice of spoiling yourself. For the entire show, Miranjo has been built up as the big bad main antagonist. To the manga and anime's credit, they've done a great job humanising her and showing off the more sympathetic side of her character. Nevertheless it does not excuse the atrocities she committed for the sake of her selfish love for Bosse. I went from hating her completely to feeling sorry for her and liking her a little more. But does this mean that because Miranjo went through many horrible things in her childhood, that it should excuse the bad things she's done? HELL NO. The story tries to touch on this point, it acknowledges that Miranjo has done Bad Stuff, and even throws in a consequence to her actions. As payback for everything she's done, Miranjo gets the well deserved fate of having her soul ripped apart, consumed, barfed out and fixed only to have the cycle repeat for ALL ETERNITY in a blazing hell within the demon she betrayed. Not gonna lie that scene was INTENSE. And I felt bad for her, but you reap what you sow.

My main issue here, is that there is no lasting consequence for Miranjo's crimes. She is locked in that hellscape for like 15 minutes before being saved by Bojji and Daida, who straight up STOLE Despa's wish to save Ouken. Asshole move but okay. And the moment she's out everyone just forgives her at the drop of a hat and she gets her happily ever after. But to be fair she does agree to atone for the horrible things she's done and work towards making the kingdom happy instead of focusing on what she wants.

Now for my third and final point, it all feels like bad writing. The author is a great writer, but sometimes the best of us make mistakes. Sosuke Toka wanted a happy fairy tale ending for the main characters, and there's nothing wrong with that at all! I myself love happy endings. But the way he went about writing it was just wrong. He wrote a good end point but the journey there felt rushed and hamfisted in so that he could get his happy ending regardless of how nonsensical it would seem in the story. In the first place, Daida shouldn't have and probably logically would not have proposed to Miranjo that easily. He does not harbour romantic feelings to her at all, and frankly the romantic undertones of the last episode and the one before that felt wildly inappropriate in my opinion. What he still would have done is save her from her cruel fate at the hands of the demon.

I envision a scene that would go like this: After Miranjo is saved, instead of the proposal and "light in my darkness" shit, Daida goes: "Miranjo. You have hurt me, my family and put my entire country in danger. You have committed countless atrocities in the name of love for my father, the late King Bosse. But despite everything, I think you should have a second chance. Nobody deserves to go through such immense suffering. Now don't misunderstand me, I haven't forgiven you. Not yet. I want you to use this opportunity to right the wrongs you have committed, and maybe... you can find your own happiness. For yourself, and no one else." Honestly if anyone were to forgive Miranjo so early on it would probably be Bojji? That kid has too big of a heart for his own good. Daida would probably come around to it some time after his brother. The adults (excluding apeas lol) would take way longer and some may not ever forgive Miranjo at all. But hey, I prefer this ending rather than the proposal one.

Even if the proposal did happen, I would expect the adults to freak out more and object crazy hard. like "Your majesty king daida I know you are the king but YOU CANT MARRY HER WHAT IN THE FUCK MAN". Daida would not react well to that lol. How I personally would rewrite the story from here is that Hiling would come in and talk to both daida and miranjo, how she does not approve of them marrying each other, and give a similar speech like I wrote for daida earlier. Then, I would give Miranjo agency to make the choice whether to accept the proposal or not. In the anime and manga, Miranjo never really said a concrete yes or no, she just cried. But judging by her final statement it was probably a "yes". Obviously in this case I would write her to say "No." Miranjo would say something like "King Daida, I am most grateful but I do not want to marry you. I am deeply indebted to you your Highness, but please understand, I do not see you that way. I am much too old for you, it would not be right. Thank you so much for giving me a second chance. I promise you that I will devote my life to atoning for my sins, and bring happiness to the kingdom." Hiling and the others would be more accepting of this outcome imo.

Then BOOM. happy fairytale ending woohooooo. Same end, different journey, no weirdness. I don't have a problem with forgiving Miranjo, it's just that it should come later and in a more natural way.

pt 2 is gonna be about what I liked about the ending!

[vicholas]

what are your thouts of the new ousama ranking episode :OOOO

Oh I feel I got too distracted by the new OP that I forgot to talk about the actual episode lmao sorry. Anyway I really liked it! Good episode, I feel the second half of the show is setting up to be really strong.

I actually enjoyed the little recap at the beginning, I like hearing Kage's POV of things. I like that Despa is coming back I missed him (he didn't go anywhere.), I like that apparently he's gonna be key at the war. I like how the episode gives us stupid comic relief Despa moment and then later on a man getting tortured and dying, I like how the show is good with finding a balance with this stuff lmao.

Very intrigued by Miranjo as always, particularly this time with her relationship with Bosse, since not only she didn't care for him getting beat up and incarcerated, but also seems to be all part of her plan.

I think it's obvious than her and Bosse are deceiving each other in some ways and using each other for their own gain, but I also do get the impression that it's more complicated than them just secretly hating and manipulating each other, so I really wonder what what exactly is going on here.

I really feel like them just hating each other would be too easy for this kind of show tbh. I’m pretty confident it’s gonna be more complicated than that, especially looking back at their interactions + remembering how the little Miranjo that Daida met talked about Bosse.

The part of Kingbo is interesting for how it’s a throwback to episode 4, not only with his father being the king Bojji met at the forest, but also by subtly bringing back the thing about the one at the top of the ranking being able to pick a treasure of their like and being driven insane by it. I honestly had forgotten about that and the show is so good at connecting everything.

We haven’t gotten to the ranking in a while but it’s interesting how even when it’s out of the picture, the legacy of the arbitrary power structures still lingers on a whole. Even when you try to forget about it, it still affects every aspect of the world of the characters.

I hadn’t commented on it before but I love that the guy in charge of the ranking is straight up dressed like a clown. I like how unsubtle the commentary is lol it’s great.

I like that Bebin is back :-) We truly hadn’t seen him properly since ep 3 lmao, it’s been a while.

I’m obsessed with the guy who eats rats and gets turned on by torturing people. New favorite character tbh.

I’m really hoping next episode is a Hiling + Dorshe episode, I miss them.

[infplusultra]

Ranking of Kings S1E13 Highlights: All is Lost

In all sorts of storytelling media, you have moments where defeat is snatched from the jaws of victory, when the good guys are doing well they aren’t too bloodied, and they just might win without suffering too dearly.

Then a giant badass drops out of the sky, swipes left on your elite bodyguards, and makes your bestie rest in flapjacks...

It just makes it all the more fun when the tables turn and you get to see the bad guys lose all hope.

Also, Apeas is kind of just a stooge when he’s doing nothing but what Miranjo directly tells him to do.

Speaking of losing all hope... I love Bosse’s reaction here.

Uhhh....? 😂