#i love him and carver but you wouldnt know it from how mean i am to them rip
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honestly I love sebastian rivalry but it's interesting that sebastian doesn't really treat you as a rival. he's such a nice guy that he's still just genuinely polite, as far as I recall. friendship or rivalry with sebastian is much more about whether Hawke encourages him to #stayhumble and dedicate himself to the chantry, or pushes him into a LIFE OF SIN. I'm deeply sorry to Sebastian who doesn't deserve my Hawke bullying him in this way (she is a piece of shit and doesn't care about starkhaven she just thinks its funny to corrupt the chantry boy) HOWEVER it does net you the best dialogue with Elthina where she's like "you are a TERRIBLE influence on my adoptive son." yes. yes i am. i'll have him gambling and doing cocaine by the end of the week
#sebastian vael#anyway purple hawke who is deeply insensitive and kind of a bully... my beloved. she sucks so much but it's part of her arc!#she almost wrecks her relationship with her brother irreparably because of this.#and i legit feel bad for sebastian because he's too nice to realise he's being made fun of :(#i love him and carver but you wouldnt know it from how mean i am to them rip#its also one of the few dialogues with elthina which is outwardly antagonistic..... we love to see it
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Glad I Came When I Did...
I came to Tumblr in July of last year, I had only been watching SPN since the March before, but I had watched everything from the beginning and was all caught up, and well into my rewatches when I got here, and I am so thankful that was the case. When I got here, and saw what many of you say about the show, characters, writers and show runners, I wondered what show you all are watching. For one thing, the show wasnt “better” in the Kripke era, it was just different for the first 3 seasons, but that was just laying the foundation for what the show was building up to. Sure, it was nice to have just Sam and Dean in every episode and not muddied down with side characters, but this show literally being an epic, needed to get bigger. It wouldnt have lasted 13 years and counting,if it just stayed Sam and Dean hunting shifters and vampires. Season 4 changed everything, and keep in mind this was Kripke, not Gamble or Carver, we got Cas and other angels, it got darker and more personal when Dean went to Hell and was tortured and ended up breaking the first seal, and Sam was drinking demon blood and became addicted, and ultimately raising Lucifer, we learned that that the brothers were part of a big Heavenly plan, and even had Gospels written about them. The great battle of Armageddon would be fought by them! Had the story not exploded like that, the show never would have gotten a 6th season. So many of you just said “It never should have gotten a 6th season anyway” but youd sit there and whine for the next 2 years about how badly it ended. Sam sacrifces himself to save the world and ends up alone in the dark? Dean ends up with a chick he hardly knows? How does this make a good ending to such a great story? Next, Dean is not an abusive masogynist, and Sam is not the pseudo-female that bends to Dean’s every whim. I’ll agree that Dean hit Sam too much in the early seasons (remember? back with it was “so much better”?) but Sam is a big guy and it was always a fair fight whenever he faught back, he just chose not to fight sometimes. Not because he’s afraid of Dean, but because its Sam’s nature to just not want to fight, Those of you who treat Sam like a battered wife from the 50s, or Stockholm syndrom gone wild, are just really projecting your political agenda on a show that wishes to not take part in ANY political agenda. Sam and Dean fight. In any drama with brothers, they fight. Since early S7, Dean hasnt hit Sam without being under a supernatural influence, and no one seems to want to accept that that part of Dean has changed. Why? Because youre putting Sam in the battered wife position, where you would tell a battered wife, that the abusive husband wont ever change. Not where he SHOULD be, as a big, strong man, fully capable of kicking Dean’s ass if he wants to, but he doesnt because he loves Dean, and knows Dean loves him, even if he hasnt always known the right way to show it.Â
On that same topic, Sam is not the female architype of this story, though sometimes a male/female formula is used. Normally however, Sam and Dean are Butch and Sundance or Luke Skywalker and Han Solo the way Kripke created these characters. Sam has feminine qualities, and so does Dean, but all men do, and all women have some masculine qualities.... thats just being realitic. I am just as tired of hearing about Dean’s “Toxic masculity” as I am about hearing that Sam is a woman with a penis... well, we’ve never been shown he has one, so a woman with facial hair? I dont know.... but feminize either of them in your fan fic if thats what youre into, but don’t write it into the show, when that’s not what the show is telling us. Neither Sam nor Dean are bisexual, and I dont care if Sam has never said he’s straight, or if he sumonned a male crossroads demon, or Dean and Cas breathed the same air, or Dean made a mix tape. After 12 yrs, if neither of these boys have canonically dated a man, we can safely assume they never will. Even if Wincest was canon, it wouldnt mean they have any interest in men aside from each other. Sam gets blamed for a lot, he does, but not everything all the time and Dean never blamed Sam for anything (after S4) that he didnt blame himself for too. in S5 Fallen Idols, Dean reminds Sam that he broke the first seal, and tells Sam he couldnt have known killing Lilith was a bad thing, In S8 when Dean tells Sam what things he could confess, he isnt throwing blame on him, but acknowledging that these werent good things, and may need confessing.... ignorance is no excuse for the law right? And Dean puts blame on them both for releasing the Darkness. In my time of watching this show, free from Tumblr, never once did Sam come off as stupid, evil, or less important than Dean. Either in the show or where the writing was concerned. Dean may asstert himself as the boss or the leader, and most of the time, he is the leader, and thats alright, theyre a team, it doesnt minimize Sam at all, he has said basically he prefers to follow because it’s easier than leading, but he certainly can lead when necessary. Dean is the infantry and Sam is the tank. Thats not making one greater than the other, thats stratagy. But as far as being Sam’s boss, look again.... Dean barks orders at Sam sometimes, but Sam gives orders subtly, he tells Dean to stop, he stops, he gives him a bitch face, he stops, he puts his hand out, Dean doesnt get cake, he says “dont kill him” Dean doesnt kill him, Sam flashes puppydog eyes and gets basically whatever he wants. Sometimes Dean defies Sam, and sometimes Sam defies Dean... see that? The narative does not favor Dean over Sam. Again, I state that Sam has never looked weak or stupid or habitually wrong in my time of watching. A few times Dean says “Im always right” but that doesnt mean he is written to be always right. Its just a Dean thing. Dean is not the “fav” of the writers because he has more speaking lines either. Sam is a quiet character, and since Jared isnt comfortable with long monologues, that works out pretty good. Sam has more personafications than Dean, more pain and affliciton... this isnt “HEY WE HATE SAM SO LETS MAKE HIM SUFFER!! HAHAHAHA!!” This is showcasing how well Jared acts pain, or takes on a different personality. This doesnt put Dean/Jensen down, his strong points are comedic parts, making long dialogue not sound boring, and showing full emotion while still being able to speak clearly. Put these exceptional talents together and it makes for 2 awesome main characters that are defined individuals and not mirrors of each other, and yet they stay similar enough to be believable brothers, best friends, and soulmates. I dont begrudge anyones opinion on anything It’s yours, you have it, and I respect it, but it appears that a lot of you are wasting your time on a show you hate, that goes against everything you stand for, and treats your favorite actor/character like a meaningless extra, and sadly, some are following you and theyre not having their own experience, they’re living yours. I cant tell you how often I hear someone hasnt watched a certain episode, or a certain season because Tumblr people hated it, so they thought it not worth it. and I have to explain that Tumblr people hate everything, and mostly wont ever be happy with the show unless whatever ship they ship becomes canon, which none of them will. So may I suggest, lighten up. take the show at face value, dont sit there, arms crossed, phone in hand waiting to meta on something you want to be there that isnt, and just laugh and love and cry with the rest of us :)
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Character opinion ask for Fenris, Sebastian, and Aveline? ❤️
Fenris (we all know where this is going)
general opinion: fall in a hole and die | don’t like them | eh | they’re fine I guess | like them! | love them | actual love of my life hotness level: get away from me | meh | neutral | theoretically hot but not my type | pretty hot | gorgeous! | 10/10 would banghogwarts house: gryffindor | slytherin | ravenclaw | hufflepuffbest quality: can i say everything? i love this man. it’s hard to pick a best quality for fen because hes so perfect but an underrated one is definitely his crude, dry sense of humour. hes such a dork. the poor sweetheart probably hadn’t heard a dick joke in his life until he became a free manworst quality: there isnt much i dislike about fenris. if i had to pick something id like him to be a bit sweeter on merrill. i totally understand why he isn’t, she embodies a lot of what he fears. but she does mean well, i would have liked to see her grow on him a bit like bethany does.ship them with: aka. who dont i? FenHawke is the OTP of course, but Sebris, Fenbela, Fen/Carver etc. etc. are all good. You name it, I probably ship it. Even Fenders is pretty alright. just let him be happybrotp them with: Isabela for sure, i love the idea of them being really good friends. his in-game friendship with Donnic and Varric is also pretty cute thoneeds to stay away from: can i say Tevinter lmaomisc. thoughts: i would die for Fenris.Â
Sebastian
general opinion: fall in a hole and die | don’t like them | eh | they’re fine I guess | like them! | love them | actual love of my life hotness level: get away from me | meh | neutral | theoretically hot but not my type | pretty hot | gorgeous! | 10/10 would banghogwarts house: gryffindor | slytherin | ravenclaw | hufflepuffbest quality: his understanding and eagerness to help. have you seen how he talks to Fenris? god it melts my cold dead heart. also that accent am i right?worst quality: mmm i suppose ive never been one for religious types. tho, not that its a bad thing. he wouldnt be the same without the whole chantry fiasco. not really a quality but his romance suCKS that boy didnt even HUG MEship them with: Feennnrisss. also both M!Hawke and F!Hawke. heck ive heard of people shipping him with Carver, Isabela, Bethany etc. all those r chill too. just not anders, pls.brotp them with: can i say fenris again? Fenris.needs to stay away from: nothing about him and Anders is healthymisc. thoughts: he is extremely underrated pls give seb all ur love
Aveline
general opinion: fall in a hole and die | don’t like them | eh | they’re fine I guess | like them! | love them | actual love of my life hotness level: get away from me | meh | neutral | theoretically hot but not my type | pretty hot | gorgeous! | 10/10 would banghogwarts house: gryffindor | slytherin | ravenclaw | hufflepuffbest quality: her bumbling nervousness when it came to Donnic was nothing short of adorable. her loyalty and strength is pretty admirable tooworst quality: shes a bit too lawful-good for my personal tastes, im a bit of a rule-breaker and chaotic-neutral by nature. ship them with: im gonna stick with the canon here and say Donnic. like most characters im pretty open tho. if people wanna ship her with isabela im not gonna say no to that necessarilybrotp them with: i like that by the end of act 3 she has this sorta friendly relationship with isabela so i will say herneeds to stay away from: dont really have an opinion tbh. girl can hold her ownmisc. thoughts: i miss out on a lot of her banter in game once again because fenris is my warrior generally
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