#i like that interpretation of the car! like bertie truly just forgets that jeeves is technically still employed by him
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yeah-thats-probably-it · 3 months ago
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#what i love about this is that to bertie it's a foregone conclusion that it's Their Car#it isn't 'you should take the car' it's 'why on earth would you take the train? we've got a car you know!'#the employer-employee relationship has become the thinnest possible fiction for married behaviour#and honestly this is making me feel a lot better about the spinoza thing. like. to bertie being mindful of jeeves is just normal.#why WOULDN'T he take the car. it's easier. bertie might not have remembered to tell jeeves to take the car#if jeeves hadn't told him when the train was leaving but it isn't because bertie doesn't care. he just assumes jeeves would take the car.#the guy had to order the spinoza. we know we don't see a lot of the conversations they have and basically all they do whenever there isn't#any plot going on is talk to each other about daily news literature history whatever jeeves is reading.#so it seems a lot more likely that we just didn't see that bit of communication happening than it is for bertie to forget briefly about#the book he wanted to give jeeves and then decide oh well let's hold onto it until christmas. because that doesn't make any sense - that's#a level of unthinking that's more about 'well who cares' than about 'i had a very busy few days and was at my aunts place so i couldn't#pick up your book'#the same in regards to bertie interrupting jeeves - because he (iirc) usually only does it when Something Is Going On#he likes hearing jeeves talk about poetry! he asks about his family! but he doesnt want to hear about jeeves aunts while he's In A Situatio#(and honestly. 1) jeeves sometimes has very bad timing. see the bicycle story. the 'cheesewright is going to crush you like a fly' thing.#the 'that's a lot of money you're owing and captain biggar is not patient' thing from RFJ. he just gets a little carried away#2) having started tally ho (thank you for recommending it btw!) this is so incredibly stressful. like. i have been underestimating#just how stressful the situations bertie gets into are. jeeves must have nerves of steel. we know that bertie does not.#and if i had to deal with not even an unwanted engagement but just a situation like 'this guy's fake moustache might fall off after#i went to some lengths to smuggle him in' and someone tried to talk to me about their aunt i would also think that This Is Not The Moment.#Can't You See Everyone Here Is An Idiot And I'm Somehow Responsible. this is the most stressed i've been in my life. (i am having a lot of#fun aside from and during the stressful! it's just stressful af) so really bertie should get a break for that#very long story short this is absolutely married behaviour
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While we’re on the subj. of Jeeves and the Feudal Spirit, this earlier scene drives me insane too, because speaking in just black and white, contractual terms, Bertie, you literally DO have the option? You’re the only one who has an option in this situation. You have the power to tell him he can’t go, you are literally his employer. And then he offers Jeeves use of the car to go to London, even though Jeeves never would’ve asked! Married behavior! Married behavior!!! This is the sort of negotiation spouses have with each other, we are fully out of the realm of master/servant now
#i like that interpretation of the car! like bertie truly just forgets that jeeves is technically still employed by him#and therefore technically isn’t supposed to be allowed to take the liberty#re spinoza i said this before but my assumption has always been that it was a second spinoza book#(either that or plum just forgot when bertie was supposed to have given him the spinoza. which is entirely possible)#but if it IS the same spinoza as the one in jitm that can probably still be explained#as the bookseller didn’t have it and needed to order it in#maybe there were shipping delays#maybe there was a series of comical misunderstandings where none of the people at the shipping facility were familiar with spinoza either#so they kept sending books with titles that sound vaguely similar with an increasing amount of distance from the name spinoza#getting more and more implausible#so by the time the bookseller actually got the correct book it was closer to christmas anyway#it DOES however sometimes bother me when bertie interrupts jeeves when he’s trying to talk about something tbh#but you’re right that jeeves does often have pretty terrible timing#and bertie DOES like to talk about poetry w him at other times#(also sometimes i think jeeves does the badly timed infodumping thing on purpose to be a shit)#(the example you give in rfj for example. i fully believe he was needling bill about the amount of money on purpose)#(bc he was annoyed at him for not listening to his advice to drop the bet)#also god yes tally ho can be so stressful#when you buy the game they give you access to the documents with all the coding#and i have to admit that i looked at the code to figure out how to do what i was trying to do sometimes#it’s interesting to look at actually though because the way different options affect your stats is actually quite complex and sophisticated#like sometimes a given option will increase a stat you want increased while decreasing another#or decreasing your relationship with another character#so you have to decide which advantages you’re willing to trade off in order to gain other advantages#it’s a really tricky balancing act i’m amazed jeeves hasn’t snapped under the strain
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