#i know we all šŸ¤” but if it did suddenly drop one day i would absolutely call in sick to work
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milfweiwuxian Ā· 1 year ago
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never getting to see Hao Yi Xing is going to be my villain origin story.
people are going to be like "why did she commit those atrocities" and it's going to be because I know there's footage of Luo Yunxi out there suffering prettily and I CANT SEE IT
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chaosacres Ā· 16 days ago
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Since my two mares got ESPA diagnosed in 2023 I feel like everyone I know has ESPA dxā€™d or suspected in Icelandic horses. So all Iā€™m gonna say here is that if you have weird mystery sensitivity, the horse is kind of reactive & weird some days & fine others & youā€™re ruling out a lot of common causes of pain & canā€™t really find muscular or chiropractic causes & the horse isnā€™t lame on one leg or neuro but something is just weird about the horseā€¦..
Ultrasound those suspensories, bestie!
We just did Vigri this Fall & found that he has early signs of degeneration of his suspensories, too, but at 16 & sound this is ā€œnormalā€ progression of the disease (as opposed to the serious degradation of the tissues we noted in Sylgja at age 5, & her mom at 13 - I still think SkvĆ­sa probably would have progressed more slowly had I not bred her, which Iā€™d never have done if Iā€™d known she had the disease). Since he isnā€™t a mare, wonā€™t be bred, & the current best practice for treatment is consistent, appropriate exercise, Iā€™m responding to this DX by slowing down his workload, riding him myself less, ponying him more, having my child (who is very light) be his primary rider when ridden, & keeping up with the shoe package thatā€™s been keeping him sound & comfy with his rotational deformities up to this point. Vigri is more comfortable / happy when in an exercise program so this makes sense for him at this level of progression, but we will be monitoring closely & re-checking. This comes w perfect radiographs (zero arthritic changes to hocks, fetlocks, etc) - we literally only USā€™d bc when I pulled him barefoot last winter I THOUGHT I noticed his fetlocks dropping slightly more than usual, & I wanted to see if I were crazy or not šŸ¤”
But where Iā€™m at w this now is I think it is FAR more common in the breed than previously reported & warrants serious examination certainly for anyone who wants to breed these horses. The prevalence in Standardbreds, pasos (disease was first discovered in pasos) etc has a lot of vets curious if thereā€™s a connection between the DMRT3 mutation & this connective tissue disease. Worth noting as well that Vigri is of no relation to my other horses, & is actually not even from the same breeding farm. Looking back, I wish I could US GlƦtaā€¦ I have a lot of questions about past ā€œcomplicatedā€ horses I worked with that could be answered by this disease.
Itā€™s super worth paying attention to because of the connective tissue involved w internal organ suspension. A friend just attended a dissection of an (suspected) ESPA horse in which the liver was found to be detatched. I know quite a few Icelandic horses that were ā€œfineā€ until they suddenly died of some weird medical event involving digestion. Was it colic or something elseā€¦..?
We know this disease can affect the cardiovascular system, vision, etc. Iā€™m certainly curious if Vigriā€™s intermittent difficulty pulsing down - even when his resp returned to normal right away - could be related to subclinical presentation of this disease. Iā€™m even curious if his rotational deformities at birth might have been the earliest sign! Iā€™m quite sure it explains his unusually sensitive skin, which rubs & chafes so easily. All of which is to say, this disease goes beyond workload / performance expectations, itā€™s not just a (potential) soundness problem. Itā€™s potentially something that can negatively impact organ function.
Another interesting thing Iā€™ve learned more recently is that research is suggesting that the bodies of these horses lay down layers of fat in unusual / unexpected places to compensate / protect the lack of healthy connective tissue. On dissection thatā€™s apparently really interesting to see, sometimes the horses donā€™t even palpate or look especially fat until you get into the layers of the body. My ESPA mares did have an unusual amount of body fat & it actually complicated the muscle biopsies we did to rule out PSSM2ā€¦.
Anyway this is sort of a disorganized dump of random ESPA thoughts but I havenā€™t had the energy or time to make more coherent thoughts for Instagram / FB & I know Tumblr doesnā€™t care.
Bottom line is if youā€™ve got gaited horses & theyā€™re having ā€œmysteryā€ health or behavioral issues, you might want to consider a connective tissue disorder as a possible contributing factor! & certainly if you notice hypermobility or unusual flexion of the joints.
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