#i just thought the conversation perfectly encapsulated my frustration with how people interact with desirability
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I think when people talk about things like desirability, they can miss the deeper point of why it can be important to analyze why people are seen as undesirable. It isn't just that a type of person is just... not hot... but often, it's the dehumanization of a person based on marginalized features.
For instance, I had a conversation with somebody about disability portrayal in media, and we had agreed that, historically, disability had been portrayed as a horrific ordeal. However, I think they missed the point as to why the "undesirable disabled" character was so appealing to a broader audience. The idea that disability is other, inhuman, and something that depersonalizes somebody from society is partly why those ideas were and are prevalent in mainstream media and culture. It is the idea that "nobody likes you. Nobody needs you. Nobody wants you" because of the person's marginalized body or experience or whatever it may be.
It isn't some superficial "oh why aren't I seen as pretty by everybody?" It is the knowledge that you are portrayed as undesirable in this way because it is a way to separate you from everybody else. It isn't about beauty, nor is it a selfish desire to be wanted by somebody. It is the desire to be seen as a person - an equal, regardless of who desires you or who does not.
#beauty culture#desirability politics#ableism#ableism tw#i brought up media but it doesn't solely apply to that and the same with disability#i just thought the conversation perfectly encapsulated my frustration with how people interact with desirability#because some people go at it with the assumption that it is shallow and vapid and vain to want to have people change their perspective...#...about how they view a marginalized status#like when trans people have criticism of desirability favouring cisnormativity fot instance - people assume it is vapid and vain...#..but it is us asking to be seen as PEOPLE even *if* we aren't fucking ~desirable~ by everybody. your desires shouldn't impact us like that#our lives shouldn't hinge on us fighting to be seen as human beings - we shouldn't need to fight tooth and fucking nail for it#i've been thinking about that conversation for a while now and it's kind of nice to somewhat flesh out my problems with it all#i have no ill-will to the person i was talking to and about. we just went at the premise in different ways and i have different ideas#i don't think the person is Bad and Horrible. i think that they AND i are impacted by this and we have different experiences
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