#i just think ssj3 looks kinda like ass. but i do like him

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I mean the moment jiren got serious he one shots roshi with. I effort lol. I feel like people complain about the manga without even reading the chapters..... Sure I get the manga as of late has been rushing through this arc but on a realistic level that’s really its biggest offense. The anime consistently relied on ass pulling and pure mind numbing stupidity. Trunks got a new form that’s never explained and was able to make a spirit bomb without even trying. Vegeta got a random new form.  Goku got UI because he got hit really hard. Kefla in base was stronger than ssg goku yet a controlled fully powered berserk kale with the help of caulifla got shitted on by ssg goku. Zamasu became the universe? Wtf? 17 became blue level by raising his kids and stopping poachers? I almost forgot about this one, goku black and zamasu were forced to retreat because of tear gas...  The manga does stupid shit but the anime makes it look like a fucking work of art by comparison.

Hoo boy. Let’s break this down. “I mean the moment jiren got serious he one shots roshi with. I effort lol “ No, he kinda doesn’t. That’s the problem. He actually has to try. The manga even outright implies Roshi is more or less getting close to attaining Ultra Instinct.

Roshi, in the anime, fought much slower and weaker opponents, not a guy stronger than a god. Even if he wasn’t going all out, he was at least using the same level of speed he’d been using on Goku, who couldn’t so much as get a solid hit in on him. And in the anime, they still managed to get this point across, still managed to give him a good showing (and actually let him get some KOs to his name) in the process. “I feel like people complain about the manga without even reading the chapters.” You must be new here, I suffer so my peeps don’t have to. “Sure I get the manga as of late has been rushing through this arc but on a realistic level that’s really its biggest offense. The anime consistently relied on ass pulling and pure mind numbing stupidity.” 90% of the manga has been just that but let’s go through your examples. “Trunks got a new form that’s never explained and was able to make a spirit bomb without even trying.” Trunks’ “new form” isn’t even a new form. It’s marketed like one, but for all intents and purposes in the series, it’s not. It’s simply Trunks focusing all his power into being used in one short burt; essentially, he becomes what seems to be far, far stronger, but it uses all his ki up front and he’s instantly drained when it wears off. It’s more like a Kaio-ken than anything else in practice. As for the latter? Yeah, kinda dumb. Wanna know what’s dumber? Goku inexplicably learning Beerus’ Desctruction technique, something reserved EXCLUSIVELY for Gods of Destruction that requires their specific sort of energy, and then somehow, inexplicably, having MISSED with it. Said technique being something that he’s supposedly not even used in practice before, yet he somehow knew it would work. Fused Zamasu being carved back into two by Trunks’ sword, only for both to then become... Fused Zamasu. Vegeta, who had only been healed by Trunks’ new healing powers enough to not die and stand on his own two feet being able to then rush in, kick a Goku in much better shape out of the way, and then OBLITERATE TWO FUSED ZAMASUS THAT NOT EVEN GOKU COULD HURT, AND STILL KEEP FIGHTING. This isn’t even touching on Kaioshin apprentices supposedly having healing powers they lose when becoming Kaioshin, and only Kaioshin being able to use the Time Rings, yet Zamasu is seen using both powers in tandem, or why the hell Zeno felt the need to literally erase the entire universe to deal with a small army of Zamasus rather than just erasing the Zamasus.  “Vegeta got a random new form.” He got one in the manga too. How exactly he was able to attain god ki at all? Never explained in the manga. How he managed to attain Super Saiyan God in the manga when the whole “Yamoshi” thing kinda deemed the ritual a necessity to tap into that? Never explained in the manga, it’s just handed to him for fanservice, along with somehow managing to make him even faster than in Blue. And given UI Omen was anime exclusive, and Toyotaro just LOVES him some Vegeta Wank, expect his special blue to show up in the manga too.   “Goku got UI because he got hit really hard.” Goku got UI because he was damn near killed, his body completely emptied, and the Spirit Bomb was absorbed enough into his body to act as a temporary power. Goku was essentially unconscious when he first used the form, as it was done to exemplify the body moving on its own, focused only on the fight. Which, frankly, actually ties in with Whis’ teachings, unlike, you know, just suddenly unlocking it in a burst of anger like a Super Saiyan form. “Kefla in base was stronger than ssg goku yet a controlled fully powered berserk kale with the help of caulifla got shitted on by ssg goku.” Do... do you not understand how Fusion works? Goku and Vegeta would have gotten stomped into dust if they’d fought Buu before they Fused; Goku at SSJ3 wouldn’t even have been enough. After Fusing though, they handled him as if it were child’s play. That’s literally how it works, my guy.   “Zamasu became the universe? Wtf?” Zamasu became a genuine god and his power was such that even after destroying his body, his spirit lived on and ascended, attempting to become an omnipotent, omnipresent being who was one with the Universe. The only person greater than him at that point was Zeno himself. Makes sense then to call him there and for him to erase that entire universe in order to eliminate Zamasu. Certainly, more than it does to do so because there were, like, 100 of him. “17 became blue level by raising his kids and stopping poachers?” 17 became as strong as he was because he trained and pushed himself for well over a decade. Also worth noting: He’s not “Blue Level” any more than Krillin is. Goku wasn’t even close to going all out at the point they were sparring, and Gohan, Vegeta, Freeza, etc. were still a good bit stronger than he was. Not sure why people think that 17′s job is literally all he could have been doing. “I almost forgot about this one, goku black and zamasu were forced to retreat because of tear gas...“ Gas is gas, my dude, and if you got a body it can be affected. Especially a mortal one, like what Black’s stuck in. I mean shoot, these people still need air too. Goku could conceivably die due to drowning in the lake by his house. Power don’t negate that. “The manga does stupid shit but the anime makes it look like a fucking work of art by comparison.” The manga also literally claims Goku is a terrible father, doesn’t care at all about his kids, resented Gohan and didn’t care for him when he wasn’t fighting, only starting to care when he saw Gohan “actually fights pretty good” (as if he didn’t already know it), and even insults his basic intellect and calls him a piss-poor fighter that relies on power over literally anything else, which is... well, just demonstrably untrue. Goku’s been strategizing throughout this entire series, finding ways to overcome gaps in power or resistance to conventional means of fighting. This manga is a low-tier fanfic written by a man who doesn’t understand these characters at all.