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jinhogwarts · 8 years ago

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ksutrash replied to your post “So like… you’re gonna put idols in the show, but then not even show...”

So produce 101 is made for koreans? Also didnt you hear every trainee say "oh thats so unfair they already start with a fanbase" and if you were to include international fans it would make it even more unfair. Another point is that i-fans dont really know them and heavily depend on translations by independent people so if we were allowed to vote it would be most likely very superficial and probably based on looks

@ksutrash I wasn’t sure how to answer that because I honestly don’t understand what your point it. Except for Nu’est and Samuel, the rest of the idols in the show aren’t very popular in general, and really not popular in Korea. In my post I was talking SPECIFICALLY about Yul and Sancheong (Kim Chanyul and Choi Hadon) from JJCC. I’ve been in the fandom since their debut, and It’s very small in general, they don’t really have that many fans to begin with, but the ones they do have aren’t Koreans. Because I feel like Jackie Chan might be more popular internationally than in Korea, or Koreans don’t really see him as a kpop producer (which he’s generally not), so most of the fans such as myself that got to know them because they’re his group are probably i-fans. If they let non-Koreans vote, it wouldn’t give them an extreme advantage, unlike Nu’est who already have the biggest advantage because they do have quite a big fanbase. I don’t want to get into the whole Nu’est discussion because that wasn’t my point, I was talking only about JJCC.

And you’re saying that i-fans don’t know the trainees and would only vote based on looks - but the Korean fans don’t know them either ????? like, they didn’t get any info that we didn’t get. I’ve watched most of the videos that mnet posted previous to the show (the into vids, staring contest, maringue time and what’s in the box), that’s the content there is and they don’t know anything more than we do. Their votes are based on the exact same things as our votes would have been. And if mnet really wanted to make sure everyone voted based 100% on talents, and not based on biased opinions or looks or whatever, they would have aired all of the performances and not cut off like half of them - thinking about it there are many groups that they didn’t show, not to mention all the single and duos who came on the show. they didn’t show the mmo boys last week or the rbw this week, and they’re like 4/5 guys in each team. i think there was another company with a few guys that they didn’t show. How are we supposed to vote based on their talents, if they don’t SHOW us their talents? That’s my point. That’s why I got so upset about cutting off jjcc or anyone else. I was genuinely curious to see the mmo boys and the rbw boys because I thought they would have had a great performance (and I think the mmo boys did because they got quite good rankings) but they just didn’t show them. Even all the ones who got an F last week, they didn’t even show their performances so I can’t judge how they were - and one of my favorite guys on the show was one of them (Lee Seokyu), so idk I’m still going to support him because I like his personality from what I’ve seen (and yes, because I think he’s cute. If you think looks don’t come into play in kpop then idk what to tell you, because it does), because I don’t know how talented or untalented he is.

I only watched the first season quite recently, and the thing that annoyed me the most was that they didn’t show a lot of the girls who were genuinely talented. Even in the last mission, there were girls who I thought were amazing and I just couldn’t remember their names because mnet never showed them. TBH, even some of the girls who actually got into ioi were almost never shown in the actual show, like... I personally know Yeonjung from wjsn (and she’s the reason I watched this show) and they only showed her singing but nothing more, I know how she acts around wjsn and she’s so bright and fun and cute and they didn’t show that side of her in the show at at all. Also Chaeyeon and Doyeon - honestly I still have no idea who they are. I know Chaeyeon because everyone was talking about her after ioi debuted and she was in m&d’s mv (Heechul is my ultimate bias so I notice the people he likes lol) and Doyeon because she’s very pretty so she caught my eye a lot, but I have no idea who they are as people??? But then, they showed Sohye like... most of the time, and even though she wasn’t very talented she got up the ranks so much she ended up in the group. I’m not saying she didn’t deserve it, because I like her as a person and I think it’s very admirable how much she poured herself into practice and improved a lot even within the show, but let’s be real - if mnet didn’t show her so much, she wouldn’t have gotten so popular and people wouldn’t have voted for her so much. That’s how this show WORKS - votes. If you’re popular, if you’re cute, if you’re so talented you catch the eye of the public (like Yeonjung for example), you get votes. If you’re not even shown on the show, who would vote for you?

And that’s what upsets me. By not showing Yul and Sancheong, they’re dooming them to not ever get votes. They’re both in quite a low place atm (yul is 90 and sancheong 86 in the last ranking I think), and idk if opening the votes to international fans would have given them much advantage, because the fandom still isn’t very big, but maybe if mnet bothered to actually show them on screen for more than 3 seconds, if they actually showed their performance and let them talk about their experience as idols like they did with Nu’est, maybe they would have had a chance.

It’s extremely frustrating because I didn’t want them to go on this show in the first place, I’ve been waiting for a JJCC comeback for about a year now, and the fact they went on this show instead, and it wouldn’t even help them... When I complained about it before the show started people were like “oh but it will make jjcc more popular!”, but so far it hasn’t. Neither of them are doing well on the rankings so far, because no one knows them. I don’t think the other idols other than Nu’est and Samuel are having that advantage, especially since they don’t let international fans to vote.

#ksutrash #produce 101 #produce 101 season 2 #jjcc #doublejc

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kneeuh-nia · 6 years ago

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4am random thoughts cause i cant sleep (tbh its mostly kpop related)

my sleep schedule is all sorts of fucked up w/ going to bed at 6am & waking at 12pm & it doesnt help that its hella hot & i have to wake up cause im sweating everywhere

i regret not getting my license earlier cause i would just drive to blast the ac

also went to my first club & even tho some moments were pretty sketch i wanna go again but that just might be because i want to drink again

was watching some jbj videos & i really miss...why couldnt they extend their contracts :( at least kenta & sanggyun get to have a permanent duo :)

hotshot also needs a comeback cause jelly was a bop & i need more

you know who else needs a comeback: Pristin w/ kyla too

its been a couple days but its still dumb what edawn hui & pentagon have to go through for dating. “Fans” are too delusional like chill. Shine was such a good song & cause of this shit theyre gonna lose the momentum they were getting :((

Bless SM entertainment for releasing Bad Boy Eng Ver. & completing my life. but why did they change “who dat boy” to “who dat is” like it wasnt necessary since it was already english but do you i guess?

Time for sad Wanna One hour cause they had their 1st year anniversary

them turning 1 year old makes me happy yet sad at the same time cause they did so much in that 1 year but also theyre closer to disbandment :(

tbh i didnt even p101 when it was airing cause i thought it was over hyped & theres too many people on it

oh boy was i wrong... i ended up watching it like a month after the show ended & the group was formed... i think it was cause i saw the shape of you performance & the comments said the audience was saying encore to them? anyways i watched it & got invested in it & even tho i knew the results already i still stressed

time out real quick to talk about produce48

tbh im kinda disappointed in how p48 is going. Cause like p101s1 & p101s2 had like legendary stages like bang bang or sorry sorry but this season doesnt really have any at least imo. Like the side to side & im sorry performaces were good but they werent bang bang or shape of you good

the rankings are also kind of messing me up. cause in the first two seasons there were some trainees that pretty much stayed in the top 11 & it was obvious they were gonna be part of the group but this season it keeps fluctuating so much (tbh im not really paying to it that much so i dont really know). i also might be kindof sad that sakura might not get 3rd place cause i find it funny that the past 2 seasons had the center ending up in 3rd place but im just weird like that. also chaeyeon’s ranking is throwing me off cause shes really talented but it might end up in a samuel situation again where they ranked high at the beginning & are falling in ranks now... gaeun also deserves to get in the top12 highkey hoping it doesnt become a nuest situation cause she doesnt really have a group to go back to

alright back to sad wanna one time

anyways altho im sad theyre gonna disband im pretty curious to see what theyll do afterwards

cause ong will probably go into acting but is fantagio planning to put him in an actual idol group or is he gonna be put into an acting group like 5urprise... at this point i think it would be stupid to not put him in an idol group cause i think fantagio would be wasting his dancing if he was in an actor group... like i heard he was an actor trainee & was gonna be in Surprise U but he wanted to be an idol instead so he went on Broduce...he’ll prob end up being like eunwoo or something

daehwi & woojin are pretty much set at BNM w/ having a group w/ MxM & w/ maybe some other trainees...but i think BNM should create another group or unit w/ the trainees that would join them so they wont be overshadowed by the Broduce boys when they officially debut

jaehwan will prob have like an indie/acoustic solo & guanlin has his group set w/ seonho

minhyun & sungwoon get to return to their groups but it all depends on how their company does with promoting them... i dont see much of problem for nu’est since their popularity skyrocketed & pledis might actually care about them for once hopefully they won’t do them dirty... hotshot on the other hand is concerning since it is a small company but it would be stupid of them to not do anything since sungwoon & taehyun got popular from broduce & hojung & timoteo got attention from the unit & unb but its all up in the air

im worried for jihoon & jinyoung cause theyre from small companies & they dont really seem to have any plans for them

its also a toss up for daniel & jisung. they do have their own label(?) but the MMO trainees they were with on the show left the company & jisung has to enlist soon. daniel can have a solo career cause hes pretty much the nation’s it boy rn but i feel like he is better suited to be in a group

man i really wished that i could go kcon to see them live before they disband but thats not going to happen :(((((((

damn this is longer than i expected oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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