#i hear your arguments and decided hardcore scene is an excuse to be violent

[kindaeccentric]

The thing about L.S. Dunes is, I love them, I really love them, I made fanart for them, and everyone who knows me will tell you it's the highest honor I can bestow. And they are a new band, despite everyone's previous involvements, they are a completely fresh new thing, one I was (and still am) excited to witness, watch from the very start. I've never been to any band this early. But then this whole thing with the concerts... it's so disheartening to realise you're not one of the cool kids, to know you are not accepted as a part of this new thing, because you've never been into the hardcore scene and probably never will be. That you're missing out and will keep missing out, because you, you who jumped and danced in second row at niche electronic shows in clubs of 400-500 people with a crowdsurfing singer, are not suited for this kind of rowdy crowd, you are not one of them. And like. Ok. It's just... Unfair? 'If you can't handle a hc show, stand in the back or don't go' is not a take you think it is. You think you're saying it's my and like-minded people's fault for not being fun and cool enough, that we have some underlying agenda of being a spoilsport, but what I hear is 'L.S. Dunes is not for you, it's for us and we will behave like wild animals and play tough, because that's our idea of punk'. I always thought punk is anti-establishment and pro-community, that kindness and support are the main values, but I guess now it's about accepting that you might get injured at a show and being ok with it. It doesn't matter where I live or if I will ever go to a show, it's about this rhetoric of 'if you want to be in the front, but don't like moshing, it means you're a Frank-obsessed stalker and you're not a genuine fan of the band'. It's about this exclusion and creating a narrative that justifies it, even if that narrative is a hurtful generalization. What I'm trying to say here is, L.S. Dunes IS NOT your typical hardcore show, as much as you want to claim otherwise, and it's not even about the genre, their fanbase should celebrate the diversity within it, encourage the community spirit, because that's more hardcore than a mosh pit, more punk than acting tough. There is something between 'just standing there' and throwing your body at other people, if you can believe it.