#i havent drawn a bg in like a year the bg on this was way out of my comfort zone

[crocodiiia]

nina :3 shes my fav

[merryfae]

I like the psychoanalysis of me because I talked about being a lurker online. Maybe - just a thought - people like me avoid direct interaction because social media is a perpetual hellhole where people like you will judge a person's character (as gullible or averse to conflict resolution) based on one (1) whole response made with the intention of explaining a perspective on the Lily Orchard debacle. Seriously wild. Talking on the internet is not the same as talking irl. It's very easy to get dogpiled in online conversations. But thanks for being patronizing.

And yes. I like cartoons. I like cartoons Lily likes and like cartoons she dislikes. I said I've been following her since her early brony days. It's kind of inevitable that people who stumble into all of this would be fans of cartoons given that no one outside of cartoon fans online would have even heard of her. Why would a non-cartoon fan watch her videos???

No addressing of Stockholm or other fanfiction that reflects Lily's interest in incest (which I have unfortunately read and can confirm is not some edgy fanfic about bad people who get their commupence - it has countless pages of sex scenes between adults and children/family members where the worst the tone gets is "ha ha, aren't we such a whacky family"). No addressing of the bestiality that Patch was commissioned for. No addressing of her proclaimed love of the bg sister incest romance. There are older fics of hers that allegedly contain (child) incest, but I havent read those, so I won't claim to know exactly what's in them. Regardless, I reiterate that these are relevant to the discussion given that they directly reflect positive feelings toward incest (which is the subject of part of the allegations against her) and other paraphilias. Looking at a claim that a random youtuber is guilty of COCSA is very different than looking at that same claim waged against someone who has written COCSA content and expressed interest in incest.

I also want to note that SOME people not having problems with Lily does not negate the experiences of others. A person can be perfectly pleasant to one person and a complete asshole to another. There are a thousand reasons why someone like Mikaila might not speak out in these circumstances that don't have anything to do with Lily not being an abuser. I once again pose the question: why would SO many of Lily's former friends have these issues with her? If it's really all on them, why has Lily miraculously drawn all of these people to her that have the same exact problem?

I'm sorry if you don't believe the screenshots compiled on that Google drive. No one can prove they're real with certainty. It's one of those "you had to be there" things. There are no links to anything -- many of the blogs and posts Lily has made over the years have been deleted. The meme provided was part of a recurring series Lily did THAT I REMEMBER, but sure, there is no direct evidence of that either so 🤷‍♀️ Names and dates on many of the chat logs aren't present. Also true. The reason I talked about Tara's tumblr was for that very reason -- THAT was clearly real and interacted with Lily et al at the time. Once again, on the Lily Orchard gossip blog there is literally a link to this blog -- it's still up! I chose to explain why I thought the screenshots were real based on things that we KNOW are real.

The fact is, providing proof of something on the internet will never be an easy task. People would have needed to archive her old content on the wayback machine or something AS IT OCCURRED or before it got deleted to actively prove it. In Brittany's case, she would have had to screenshot messages before any accounts got deleted or the messages thenselves got lost to the ether. So a lot of this discussion hinges on whether or not you believe the screenshots that have been compiled. Given just how much is compiled in those drives, I'd question why anyone would go out of their way to fake THAT MUCH content, but I recognize that's not enough to prove anything.

It's like I said in my initial post - I can't prove anything without a doubt. I didnt set out to do that. My goal was simply to explain why I (and many others) believe the allegations against her since it can all seem like a mess of information from the outside looking in. It's based on what I've seen of Lily over the years - from the lies and inconsistent stories to the way she talks to people online to the fanfic she reads and writes. These small behaviors combine with the consistent stories shared about her to present a clear image of a fairly abusive person. I do not have a compilation of the years worth of stuff that has clued me into this -- I don't have personal stakes in this, so why would I? This is just my take, which is what OP asked for.

Either way, if you came to a different conclusion when looking at the information that has been provided, that's fine. Once again, my only intention in responding to this post was explaining why I believe what I do.

aight fuck it time to get canceled

i'm sure i'll regret this later but i'm feeling brave today

i've looked through all the lily orchard "proof" and honestly like. almost none of it holds up. the screenshots with no names or faces especially.

now i'm willing to have respectful discussions and look over some of the proof again, but what i've seen so far has not convinced me. oh, she's... a little rude sometimes? that's all i've really concluded.

i know there's no reasonable way courtney would have any sort of proof of what lily (allegedly) did. it is courtney's word vs. lily's. we literally have a he-said-she-said here.

and watching lily's video. honestly. i am more inclined to believe her, but that's cause i'm the "pics or it didn't happen" type of person. i need proof.

i'm gonna reiterate this cause i know you're all coming with your pitchforks now:

i know that there is no reasonable way for courtney to have proof.

i'm not gonna give anyone who just yells at me or insults me any attention. i want to have a respectful discussion. i want to know why the "proof" is... well, proof of anything. i want to hear your takes. i am open to having my mind changed. i want to know why you think the way you do, because looking at this logically... there's nothing here.

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If you watch me on twitter, you'll know that this is one of the two sona's i was killing myself over to draw. THIS SONA went through like 19 design phases. I am beyond happy to finally finish this damn ref only to remember I have 2 more characters to go. :')))))))

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Name: Rhea Len-Bati (Ree-ah Len-bah-tee)

Race: Mirialan

Born 47 BBY- 28 yrs old by Episode 3 Height: 5'6" (1.68m) (here's to hoping i grow 3 inches taller by the time im 28 lmao) Pronouns: She/ Her Specialty:   -Cloaking: with enough concentration, she can trick other's into not being able to see her physically and thus turning invisible. -Sense: She's incredible at sensing the emotions of others amongst hyper sensitivity to other things. Battle Style: Mostly defense. Longer lightsaber. Holds it forward. Large swings. Many maneuvers and spins. Stronger to Force than to combat. Personality: tame, level headed, responsible, respectful, obsessive, determined, weak to flattery (I havent watched the Clone Wars or Rebels yet, so some things might change whenever i get more info.) BG: Rhea was born on the planet of Mirial. Her mother passed away some time after her birth and her father, who couldn't raise her by himself, gave her away to an orphanage of sorts. Rhea was much too young to remember them but later accepted her life peacfully in her new home. She was 4 years old when she met a Togruta Jedi Master who was visiting Mirial for a short period of time on a job. Upon meeting the Jedi, who seemed to have spotted hidden talent in the child, Rhea's curiosity about the Force and how it worked made them grow close to the point that they were inseparable at the time. A few weeks in of the Jedi's visit, she had found herself being told by the Mirialan headmasters that she was to be transported with said Jedi to another planet to begin her training. That Jedi Master was Zinto Ailé.

Unbeknownst to Rhea, through Zinto's strong ability to sense complex energies and fluctuations in the Force, she had felt the threat of a waging war between Mirial and some other party. Zinto's fear of losing Rhea and her potential, struck the Master enough to have her ask permission to bring the soon-to-be student from her home world to Coruscant.

Zinto returned to the Capital and requested the Council for two things; having the young child study in the Temple, and to one day be the Master to fulfill Rhea's Jedi training into knighthood. They agreed for the first but insisted that for the second, Zinto would have to wait. At the time, the Master had been teaching her 13 year old Padawan, Lu, so she was left with no choice but to have Rhea study for many years on Coruscant until her current Padawan became a knight. Somewhere between those years, Rhea had heard that Mirial had gone to War, but with it, the news that Zinto had gone to fight alongside them.   At the age of 13, she became the Padawan of Master Ailé. There were many problems that surfaced from having Rhea's Master be non-Mirialan and go against the tradition. However, Zinto had spoken to Master Yoda and he saw that under her teachings, Rhea would become well learned. Through all their training and time spent together, Zinto fails to touch on the subject of 'the Mirialan War' and Rhea's knowledge of it all is still very vague.

Once she was 23, she became a full Jedi Knight. Many of her missions were partnered up with, who she considered practically her sibling, Lu. She only carried out so many objectives for the Jedi Council until 2 years later, the Clone Wars began where Rhea immediately joined military forces as a Jedi General. General Kenobi had offered to train her on his own missions until she was prepared to command the clones herself. She and Obi-Wan had known each other since she had first come to the Temple as a child. They spent time together as good friends until they would have to go their separate ways, him becoming a Master and training Anakin, and her becoming a Padawan. Rhea spent months grasping as much experience as she could before she was confident enough to be called General Rhea. Much of her time was spent on the battlefield more than anything. During those years, she failed to keep in contact with neither Lu or Zinto. She plans to see them, once the war is over and in hopes that they understand. Her clones change from time to time, but her main clone soldier and friend is Commander Kollin.

---------------- Some facts: -Rhea and Lu are both derivative of my last names. (Both a piece of my mom's last name, which I tend to use a lot, and the straight up pronunciation of real last name) -Rhea has almost no sense of personal space and sometimes touches peoples faces or hair out of the blue. She finds no awkwardness in touch. -She likes braiding people's hair as a sign of intamacy. (Platonic or romantic) The longer you keep the braid together, the better she believes the relationship is. -I'm making her a hugger because??? I love hugs so?? -She hates office politics. The war she understands, but she'd rather be shot in battle than listen to a debate in the Galactic Senate Chamber. (even if it does look cool) -She's more passive aggressive than direct. -Her biggest struggles is fear, anger, and control. ------------------- This sona is a parallel to another sona by the name of Varia (vaRHEA GET IT????) Zinto's originally from my Fantasy AU Kollin's originally from Mass Effect but he's still my baby SORRY THIS IS SO DANG LONG

I've had this sona and the supporting characters in my pocket for MONTHS now and its taken me forever because drawing fullbodies and writing coherent backgrounds are the bane of my existence. The good thing to come out of this tho is that I've drawn a shit ton of sketches and images about these characters that I get to bombard everyone once all the info's out yay! Spoiler alert i make Rhea and Obi Wan smooch. Im not sure how, but we'll get there. -Thanks for looking and reading!