#i have a big fucking problem on how damian and jason poorly managed trauma responses keep being used as a reason to shit on them as if you
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qcomicsy · 2 years ago
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I love this part "he not buried his younger self he's fucking traumatized"!
Because it's so fuckin true I want to give you a handshake.
When I'm talking all that stuff about Jason I'm not only saying that about 25 year old Jason Todd. I'm not talking only about Red Hood. But I'm also referring to the man who was specially his 15-17 "violent' Jason Todd Robin.
And how both of them get shit left and right from the cannon and the fandom.
Because for the love of god. Robin Jason and Red hood Jason aren't different people.
Bruce, Jason and everyone who met him before his death try to convince themselves that they're different people because it's easier to deal with. This is not a reality, this is part of the tragedy of their narrative.
If they separate young Jason from Adult Jason and said he "changed" or (in this case for the editors and writers) "was always bad" it get's easier to confront the person he is today.
This is not a highly traumatized person in a fight-or-fligh reaction, this is a irresponsible, arrogant, irredeemable and bitter adult.
We're talking about a man who was exposed to violence when he was younger than 10 years old, who was (or fell betrayed) betrayed by single adult of his life. Who had only five years of "normal" life before being brutally traumatized again and then used as levarage by other adults his life.
It's just. C'mon let's use our brains here.
8-12 years old constantly exposed to death, violence, domestic violence, physical abuse, emotional abuse and forced by his environment to use the same violence to survive. Depending by the cannon either raised by an addicted and a drug dealer or living in the streets or both.
12-17 "Normal life", good parent, still using violence as a copings mechanism but it's pg-13 violence.
17 - Brutality murdered after being betrayed by his own mother.
17/19 (I'm not sure don't come for me) - Bought back by a river who literally made other men insane, raised and trained by assassin's. Manipulated by those same assassin's into believing he was betrayed (again) by another caregiver.
25 Fairly reformed. Still uses violence as copping mechanism. Sometimes has violent outburst when confronted by triggering evens.
Wow I wonder how that happened.
Again I'm not justifying, believe or not I don't fuck with killing henchmen who have mouths to feed, or drug dealers or executing people without trial.
I don't think every single thing Jason did is easily brush of by "oh they were bad people and he was in a silly goof mood" :(.
I do think Jason should confront that and the implications of his morals and the impact it has in real life people someday. Specially because I know he is so fucking goddamn smart and understand that a system exist for a reason.
But I won't stand here seing people literally see a man having an emotional flashback and engage in reactive abuse (meaning reacting violently after being abused), over and over and over and over again, and then getting brushed off and blamed for it and say nothing.
I specially won't sit here and agree when people say that about his younger self who didn't even got a chance to go to therapy but got a pretty suit and a excuse to externalize his already violent tendencies and then again blamed for it, when he acted in the way got him alive for years.
"Reckless" Motherfucker get him some counseling then.
Again, Robin Jason and Jason are the same person with the same traumas, the same diregulated reactions and honestly probably in the same survival mode. But that isn't their entire personality, doesn't make them far gone neither take every good trait he has.
Far from contrary.
No because I'm going insane, Jason is not even close from this bad boy archetype comics and the fandom paint him to be.
It's so fucking easy to put him as this dangerous, hot tempered bastard who is ready to go off at any given moment. It's so, so, so fucking easy to argue he is dangerous and messy and chaotic fire of nature. And don't get me wrong he is, but not it's not even close as again his reputation precedes him.
Jason is very well spoken, he knows the time to be calm and the time to go off, he knows when violence is necessary (in his terms), he understands society power imbalance and the advantages people on top have and people on the bottom haven't, he's extremely smart and calculating and the most important part he knows exactly when to play dumb and when to back off if it's need it. He has a lot of pride and is the insufferable "my way is right" kind of guy but never in a way that put his mission and people at his side in the face of danger. He recognize game and knows when it's time to shut the fuck up because there's someone more capable to dealing with shit.
He's so, so much more centered then the "chaotic Red Hood bullshit" people sell.
It just baffles me how it's so fucking easy to paint a victim of abuse who reacted in a different way other than sitting and taking it as insane, immature and dangerous. Or how easy it is to infantilize him. To turn and say "He's an asshole" or a "poor little meow meow" who doesn't do any wrong. Either a monster or a saint.
It's like Madonna-Whore dichotomy but about moral compass.
It's just. This is an adult man, with a set of complex issues and complex multidimensional reactions who yeah, actually make sense, when you take your head from your ass and see characters as flawed human being who react under the environment they're put on.
And no, this doesn't justify the things he's done and the things he's done doesn't forbidden him from any kind of development or change of heart.
And a change of heart doesn't put him as this "now that's someone who deserves to be treated as a human being".
What I'm trying to say is, Jason isn't a monster, he isn't insane, he isn't this rebel delinquent teenager, he isn't a poor little meow meow, not all his actions are justifiable, no his actions doesn't make him irredeemable, yes he has the right to change, no he shouldn't change just because then people would treat him as a goddamn human being and fuck yeah he deserves respect regardless.
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