#i got lost after these panels because i dont know how they would interact / react since i think raph would want to hug him or something but
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pumpkster · 2 years ago
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shybre22 · 5 years ago
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Now for part two I will be doing Ichihime.
Honestly I knew Ichihime would be endgame from early on in the manga and series.
A lot of IR claim that Ichihime doesnt make sense or that they have no development..which at this point I think this is what any anti for any pairing in every anime say.. because that's obviously not true at all.
Even from the very beginning.. not only do we know that Orihime likes Ichigo, but Ichigo seems to pay attention to Orihime, extra close at times.
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In this panel, he admits that he worries about her and watching her wears him out with worry, he even wonders if she's really alright. Now its important to remember that this is fairly earlier in the story and at this time Orihime is only an acquaintance at best..but here he is worrying about her.
Not only does he notice her getting hurt...but during the Fullbringer arc he said that she was more likely to get followed or stalked than him when Orihime asked if anyone has been following him.
Hell he's even offered to walk her home.
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Weird considering they're only acquaintances at this point right? While I know it's rare for the shounen protagonist to have a crush right off the bat..for arguments sake let's say you look at ichihime interactions with the idea that Ichigo has some sort of crush on Orihime. I feel like his interactions with her make more sense throughout the series and keep this I mind through this post.
Now antis always love to say that Orihime didn't understand Ichigo or couldn't encourage him like Rukia could..but..
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Here! Even Tatsuki who has known him since childhood couldn't tell it wasnt Ichigo or his other friends.. but Orihime does notice..she knows that's not him right away.
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And here Orihime right away knew he wasn't acting like himself...even Tatsuki was impressed, she said it took her years to figure that out.
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Oh yeah she cant encourage him right?? Not only did she give Ichigo the resolve to go save Rukia..but during the Grimmjow fight.. Ichigo was so afraid of frightening Orihime with his mask that he wasn't focusing on the battle.. know think about that..he was so scared to frighten Orihime he wasn't fighting..knowing he could die or get really hurt.
I also hear antis say that Orihime is horrible for being scared of Ichigo when he was still fighting to save her but they need to understand that in the first few chapters of bleach..Orihime was attacked by her brother..her beloved brother, the only family she ever had before he died and he attacked her..as a hollow..and now she's looking at the man she loves with a hollow mask and she's afraid FOR him not necessarily OF him..she's afraid he'll turn completely hollow( which is fair, considering he does later during the ulquiorra fight).
Then all she had to say " please dont die..you dont have to fight for me and you dont have to win..just please dont get hurt". And Ichigo was ready to fight for real..then beat Grimmjow.
She was also able to feel his pain somehow and knew he was crying when he got his powers stolen despite her being far away from him at the time.
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Not to mention at this time she was brainwashed by Tsukishima making her and Chad think Ichigo was the one going crazy, but even though she was brainwashed to think it was Tsukishima who she loved..her heart knew better and still felt Ichigo's pain even without seeing him.
Not to mention she was able to see he had a plan to defeat Ywach just from one look into his eyes.
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So yeah.. Orihime does understand Ichigo more than most..and just because Rukia does too doesnt mean he should be with her.
And on Ichigo's side antis also say he doesn't care about Orihime only Rukia..and if he does care it's only because Ichigo is protective of his friends.
Now it's clear through the whole series that Ichigo does care about all his friends..but it's also apparent that Ichigo does hold Orihime to a different standard.
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This is not far into the story..at this point they are still only classmates and only a few pages ago Ichigo refused to take over Rukia's Soul reaper duties..until he found out a hollow was after Orihime.
Or when Yammy and Ulquiorra hurt Orihime..they also hurt Tatsuki and Chad but he was shown to be obsessing over Orihime ( despite the fact she could literally reverse her injuries) and the fact Tatsuki was a human with no powers should've made him worry over her more..but he felt so guilty for not protecting Orihime he couldn't even look her in the eyes..it got so bad that Rukia made him go to her and look her in the eye and he vowed to never let anyone hurt her again, pluse he didn't apologize to anyone else..just Orihime. I also find it funny how Rukia seems to be a ichihime shipper while her fans hate Orihime and want her to be with Ichigo..I find it funny.
Then we all know how hurt he was when Orihime got taken to Hueco Mundo.. Yes I understand he did rescue Rukia as well but he even said its because he owed her..and he did he owe her his and his families lives..and she was his friend and only on death row because of him. But with Orihime she chose to go to protect her friends and Ichigo had no obligations to her other than she was his friend..
He also walked around like a zombie not even caring when Tatsuki beat the hell out of him asking where Orihime was. He even yelled and threw a fit at the captain commander(you know the strongest soul reaper alive) for suggesting she was a traitor..
He even went against the entire soul society wishes (as a substitute soul reaper no less) to go find Orihime in Hueco Mundo.
One of my favorite scenes is when Ichigo was hurrying to go help Chad and Rukia who were badly injured at the time..when Ulquiorra appears and tries to goad him into a fight.. nothing works until Ulquiorra mentions he was the one who brought Orihime to Hueco Mundo ..which in turn infuriates Ichigo and he swings his sword at him in a blind rage..(remember he was supposed to be helping Chad and Rukia who were injured) but he was so angry that he was the one who brought Orihime there...he didn't say he hurt her or tortured her...he only said he brought her. And. Ichigo. Flipped.
One of my other favorite scenes is when he almost literally rises from near death to get Grimmjow's hands off of Orihime
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LET GO OF HER! Was the first thing he says never mind he was almost dead a few minutes ago and still can barely stand. And look at that face his eyes mean business.
And of course one of the most epic Ichihime moments is when Ulquiorra defeats Ichigo and kills him.. he hears Orihime calling for help as Ulquiorra advances to her.. and as he's dying he hears her and tells himself he needs to help her and protect her..even in death he needs to protect her. And yes I'm aware that his inner hollow is the one keeping him from dying..but the only reason Hichigo doesnt completely take over Ichigo and lose his humanity was his will to protect Orihime. Ichigo was chanting " help her", "help her", over and over like a mantra..that's was the last shred of his humanity and even his last shred of humanity wanted nothing more than to protect Orihime.
Not only is Ichigo extra protective of Orihime..but he get flustered around her too.
Like during The Thousand Year Blood War Arc.. when Ichigo was asked by Chad if he liked Orihime's outfit ( Which was very revealing..especially in the boob area) and Ichigo was blushing like an idiot of course.
While most antis swear it's just because Orihime is very beautiful and has a very large chest..remember Chad or Uryu didn't react despite them being males as well..just Ichigo.
Not only that but all of Ichigos enemies always use Orihime to bait him into fights. Enemies like Grimmjow, Nnotora, Ulquiorra, and even Ginjo..they all taunted him about how he was so determined to protect Orihime that they would use her presence to push Ichigo into fighting them.
Antis also claim that they didn't develop.. they went from classmate acquaintances to friends fighting side by side in battle. Orihime went from being shy and stuttering and being nervous in his room to borrowing manga from him and just marching in his room and both teasing each other. Ichigo also went from wanting to protect Orihime by leaving her on the side lines and out of harm's way.. to trusting her to be his shield in battle.
IR"s also claim that Rukia is better than Orihime because she's stronger. Now I know Rukia is strong no doubt..especially when she finally releases her bankai. But for most of the series she hardly does anything..even my husband noticed she only won like two or three fight the whole series and most of the time she was so beat up after she looks like she lost the fight. I'm not trying to talk down on Rukia I love her actually.. it's just is you go back and read the manga..Rukia didn't do much either.. plus Orihime actually has a really really OP power she just doesn't have the heart to hurt anyone so she usually uses her shield or healing, but just like Rukia they didn't do much with her powers.
In the end Ichihime had quite a bit of development..I'm not saying Rukia and Ichigo didnt have a bond..because they had a strong one..but that doesn't always mean romantic..I always felt it was more brother/ sister type than anything. But if you go back and look at all of the Ichihime moments you'll realize their bond as well..you'll realize that Orihime was always their during the really important times and fights.. like the Grimmjow fight, Ulquiorra, fight, the Nnotora fight, his Fullbringer training, his Visored training, and she stood side by side with him in the Ywach fight.
He was actually separated from Rukia more than he was with her..even when they were in the same places..they were always separated. Kubo..I feel made it very clear from early on that ichihime would be endgame..I feel some people were just in denial.
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thestrugglezxcs-blog · 8 years ago
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WEEK 13
It’s a new week again, pretty worried because we are still kinda stuck with no ideas and our progress is stagnant. Started off with explaining the candle idea to huei hoon on monday!
Huei’s Consultation
Can go a little deeper on what’s depression.
You all need a little more content in it.
(Root cause) You all explained what it is not but didn’t explain what it is.
Give reasons on why depression is different from sadness, how do you tell them apart.
Explanation largely ok. (for presentation)
Idea not very strong and not very original
The connections inside need to be stronger
Needs to be very real
Not unusual enough
Not strong enough to make a strong communication project
Why candle? what does it represent?
Small flame= little energy
Flame= hope, cannot see the future is bright
People will assume if we don't explain our intention properly
Why hexagon?
Every shape, form u choose has a meaning
Use compressed foam board? Don’t use wood.
Sculpt the foam board then paint then wax on the surface
A little straightforward
How to make the person look in and see themselves in depression mode on the mirror?
Ended our morning consultation and we thought a little about the form so,
Reason why we used a hexagon is because because: people with depression tries their best to meet the requirements of those without. So with all these negative words, it shapes the depressed causing them to be affected, being unable to reach these goals, hence close to breaking down.
In the afternoon, we had another consultation with Huei,
Hot glue more durable than wax
Hollow
Calculate how many boxes you all need
Whole thing doesnt need to be wax
So it can be lighter.
Pendant put on the wax.
AAAAHHHH more to go!!!! Jiayou us. Luke didn’t have any lessons on Tuesday so it was pure consultation!
Luke’s consultation
Do something that people think is normal, but when depression people look at it, it doesnt feel normal to them.Thus make them go forward.
Differentiate normal people and mental illness
Can play with optical illusion
Take a big panel and make it look 3d, outline it with luminous light
So when they look in will be second third plane.
Something to show there’s a “hole” inside
During Alfred’s lesson, we learnt to use Adobe Animate although Joy has learnt it before, she’s still slightly struggling with it’s coding and Xin Yi is also trying hard learning it.
We consulted Alfred after and these are what he said:
Make a smaller hole, if not everyone can see everything inside from far.
How are you gonna show a static fake flame?
Try to light a candle and see the flame and melted wax
Observe how the wax forms and how much wax there is.
If you want to make a candle shape, make it look legit
Now it looks like scooby doo ghost.
How to make the wax?
Symbol of candle?
Sign of ending life?
It is not a sign of strength
Need a stronger symbolism
Do a form that is so normal that we will not take a second look
Candle- lifespan
Bubble wrap- security
Where’s the empathy?
Where’s the call to action?
Didn’t really follow your objective
Where’s the part that’s gonna be fatal if left untreated?
How do you show depression if left untreated it becomes fatal?
Something thats ordinary, plain,
Requires a kind of like timer- at the end of this if somethings is not done then POOF
HOW IS THAT EMPATHY when u just look inside?
Not addressing empathy and show consequence.
Address objective or change it.
Fatal or empathy?
Felt really lost after consultation with Alfred...because we are drifting far away from our objective omg.
So we have to keep reminding ourselves of our objective!!!!!
To help people empathise and overcome depression; if left untreated it becomes fatal.
we thought of a few ideas on how we could reach the objective
1. Using back the idea of a never ending tunnel, we replace the words or quotes with daily diary entries of real people with depression till the last suicidal diary entry.
2. Combining the images with words together. Taking inspiration from Olivia Penpraze’s video documentation on her journey with depression till suicide.
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3. Taking inspiration from here https://www.blurtitout.org/2012/07/02/diary-of-depression/ Images attatched to each diary entry shows his exterior normality going through depression. But his diary entries write things like:
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4. Exterior: A diary that shows a fine person
5. “diary” on a stand. Users read the diary till the end to see a hole in the diary. Users then peek in to see the never ending book
6. Is it possible to use projectors instead of a never ending tunnel
So previously we screwed up our interim, and we met Huei on Wednesday for some feedback for it.
Experimentation started late, so not much development
3 areas we need improve: deck and presentation, development
Have to allow the exterior lecturer to understand better. Using the deck and the way we present. Need facts and figures to allow the listener to understand and see how we used our insights to get our objective and how we ideates.
It’s all about communication. It’s a deliverable part of a campaign.be effective to the client
Not enough testing to show that it’s an experimental project: techniques and concept
Dont throw in the whole paragraph into the slides, use keywords
Explain why we used people without depression
3 CONCEPTS: throw in sketches because they under process
Experimental not enough cos only got 1?
Experimentation hard to make out what we tryna achieve
Experimentation: how much light we need? Bright or dim? Placement of lights?
Incorporate points of research with survey
Planning is impt when planning slides.
What can i do if i think my neighbour have depression?
Photography is techniques?
How you know people will walk up to it?
Concept not super persuasive yet, and it’s a very normal idea
Try to incorporate interesting use of media: can it be something different? But it’s smth different?
Can it enable modern technology? Smth more interesting?
Interactive part depends on what the client wants to achieve, which is the user’s take away.
Can check out exhibition at STPI
Landing site connected to QR code of people telling their stories or those relatives telling their stories (realistic)
On that same day, we felt very behind time and we consulted David on our very little progress:
Diary idea,
Going inside - who will read
Too wordy
Visually passive
No shocking element, feels very far
They won’t feel scared
Need element that makes it scary
self -pity moment
They dont want self-pity from a stranger, but they rather tell you things, because they are close to you
They are fearful that you will look into their inside
They are not as opened to strangers: there is a layer of “don’t come and touch me”
Notes hidden by a weariness to share.
Selective sharing
Users should feel like they have intruded somebody’s privacy
Feels like they doing something wrong but they feel wow
Eg: go inside, full of eyes, what do you feel? Watchful of disclosing secrets. Sublime
Weary eyes, with small notes beside it (consider the ring-jap)
Sublime then makes them want to look on.
Hidden notes, secrets (scarce)
Curiosity kills the cat cfm will look in
“I dont rly disclose my depression to other”
If it’s plain? Expressionless? Eyes outside but closed?
Two eyelids - peaceful
Makes them want to question themselves
Sound - crying/talk
Interaction is visual
Secrets hidden very well. Explore with people sticking their head in.
Outside looks peaceful and normal, but the shocking thing is that we all didn’t know that they have depression.
So the depression images will be the background.
One line of the notes can do
Some disclose some “dw to let u know”
So how is this depression?
Maybe it could be a note “they won’t really tell you, till you are willing to be understanding”
But people may look at your notes first before they put their head in
How obvious shld the notes be?
Could be white post its around so they look like scales
Don’t do eyes for exterior so there can be the element of surprise
If it’s a pendant, how will they know that they can take it?
Put inside hole?
Or smth like a cocoon
Eyebags? Put the giveaway inside?
Connection between the whole thing is most important
WE HAVE HOPE AGAIN!!!!!! So excited to carry on after hearing what David said!!! And we came up with a list of stuff we can do for now.
Areas for experimentations:
test a wall of eyes, how will people react
Those with depression and how they will react differently with friends and strangers
Best way to create the most realistic and weary eyes
Best way to create a pendant: hot glue? Resin? Plastic? Shape?
More on photography, show more experiments of techniques
Test sounds on people
MIRRRRORRRR
If people will stick their heads in
Shape?
Butterfly? To represent freedom, taking a butterfly token home represents taking a baggage off?
Teardrop? To represent the tears they have shed will not be taken as a call for attention? Can put in eyebags also
Drug? Pills? Addition to the want to kill themselves?
Heart?
Bones?
Gun bullets?
Lego brick? Or puzzle? Part and parcel of their depression journey?
What if it’s a drug capsule? If the user throws it into the water the capsule dissolves, a note comes out or a message comes out?
EXTERIOR
Sheer cloth over the 2 eyes
Still hexagon?
Cylinder?
Plain w two eyes and eyebags
If teardrop, hang on eyelash?
BIGGG EYE WITH EYELASH
Peace sign twistttt
The exterior with the net
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SOUND
Nobody understands me
Why are you looking at me like that?
Dont ask me anything
Im not telling u anything
Ahhh im fine dont worry
Just leave me alone
GET OUT OF HERE
*cries* why am i such a burden
Im so unworthy for anyone
The world would be much better without me
Some of what they are really thinking and some of them saying stuff they pushes people away
Went to check out STPI on Thursday!
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Didn’t really get much inspiration, but it’s okay!
TGIF!! it’s another day of consultation
DAVID’S CONSULTATION
What do you want to achieve of your experiment?
Social experiment of eyes- the location determine the results
Can see from afar or out of a sudden?
Put in toilet?
Alternatives,
Individual or a group of people
Designers-right brain
Engineers-left brain
Test people of different schools
Exterior, need something to pull it etc to create the form we want
Mosquito net- drapes down but we need something to pin down
It won't flow by itself
What does the teardrop and her means?
Looks very sweet
Have u experiment if 1m is a good size?
Closed eyes- fine but like having anxiety, sweating
Remove her sweat, CTA (pendant)
Flowchart like how we will react or how others will react, if they walk away, will they get the message?
If flow chart has a lot of “walk away” then you have to change the thing that connects to the “walk away”.
What if you make the eyes outside open and close slowly
Need to have a spotlight since our artefact is being draped
Echo and reverberations are diff
Reverberations are like sounds you make in the toilet. The sounds bounce against the walls
Read up or listen to reverberations, sounds similar to echo, but it’s the bouncing actions that makes you feel like there’s echo
Heartbreak hotel song by elvis Presley. The echo feels very near, the sounds bounces a lot.
Experiment 1: We printed many eyes and stick them behind toilet doors to see people’s reaction mainly people from SD
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we’ve got quite good response! Most of them felt uncomfortable or scared (yes! Our objectives). Only 3 out of 15 thought it was pretty funny because it was in SD, it’s not a rare sight to see weird things.. hmm maybe it’s time to change some locations.
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So things we need to do this coming week:
Sound
weekly reflections
consultation sheets
form with stockings
resin pendant
Best way to create the most realistic and weary 3D eyes
test audio with underpass
more testings on the eyes (guys)
hot glue pendant
test if people will stick their heads in a hole
Glad we didn’t give up and were able to think of ideas together as a team. There’s not much time left, let’s hope we can finish experimenting by this week and start building it by the following week!
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