#i fully expected them to talk about Ballerina Farm and nara Smith etc but hearing Kelly Havens name was truly a jump scare
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omg if you're a podcast person PLEASE listen to the "Trad Wives Rising" episode of You're Wrong About‼️ it is such a good conversation about how the culture of individualism and our deep seated desire to escape from under the boot of capitalism is directly linked to the popularity of Internet Trad Wives, *and* there's even a Kelly Havens Ohio mention
#i fully expected them to talk about Ballerina Farm and nara Smith etc but hearing Kelly Havens name was truly a jump scare#i forget how well known she really is#fundie podcasts#and it's funny!
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