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June 22nd, 2017 CTP Archive

The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on June 22nd, 2017, from 5PM - 7PM PST.  The chat focused on The Angel with Black Wings by Mharz.

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RebelVampire

Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning. Today we are discussing The Angel with Black Wings by Mharz~! (https://tapas.io/series/tabw) For those new to CTP, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer so pay them no mind if you wish~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! Each chat a top comment will be picked and featured on an ad for this chat, so let’s have a great discussion~! With that said, let us begin with this first question~!

QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

When Ray was beaten up by the bullies and big Sis wanted to help him but she was stopped by Silver. I think that scene was really impressive, it was strong with so many feelings and gave us the hint that things would just go deeper. Ray's expression passing from "hey I have a guardian angel, things will go well now" to "oh no she's leaving me alone" was pretty good. Don't misunderstand me I like see Ray being beaten up LOL, just, that scene was like "OMG WHAT"

mathtans

(I'll be back as soon as I take care of dinner. ^.^)

RebelVampire

yeah i really liked the imagery for the angel walking away in that scene. it was really powerful and sad overall. especially the one panel where ray had blurred vision cause it was like "oh shit this guy is seriously hurt."

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I think it was very well done, specially considering the previous events of interactions between Ray and Big Sis, you could think she would help him out like with the thing with the apple at the lunch time, but nope

Other good scene was, in recent chapters, when Mara stood up against her "friends"

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Hrrrm. I feel like when Mara was trying to apologize to Ray, that was kind of a powerful moment. I feel like Ray's just so angry about things, though understandably so. I've been in that sorta boat myself so I can sympathize a bit with his position.

DracoPlato

so I just reread it so it's fresh in my mind

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

I feel for Mara too, though.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Same Kabocha, that was a good one too, you can put in both character's shoes and see things differently

I don't know for which one side

tbh xD

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Another unfortune situation here for me of this is not a comic for me. I was not the audience for this and I am sorry again.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

that apple scene was odd, theres just a floating apple there i know it was just a reflex but that could been handles quieter(edited)

DracoPlato

I think I liked Silver fighting the demons the most

in the mall

mathtans

That was a good scene. I liked the bit in the hospital with Mara, finding out about her younger brother. Threw some earlier stuff into a new perspective, I like that sort of thing.

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Yeah! I mean, there's a part of me that doesn't want him to stay angry about it, because it's so unhealthy. >_> I wanna know why Big Sis is tryin' to push forgiveness so hard tho. What exactly did she dooooo

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

I like the art, I think it is really cool! I also really like the design of Silver. But I couldn't read the story after the first chapter.

mathtans

I think black wings come from being unforgiven, maybe.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Why are her wings black, like what did she do to deserve it

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

well most people would call a black winged angel a fallen angel so big sis probably did some dark shit to earn that(edited)

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I IS HERE!!!!

3

DracoPlato

YAY~!

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Since I feel pretty unrelevant for this particular situation, I will just quickly throw my thoughts in

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

and probably because of that Big Sis is usually lonely

Hey Mharz!

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

@Queen Brave Hikari of Memes -- I agreeeee. I wanna know more RIGHT NAU

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

The dream scene was also powerful one

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

:y

RebelVampire

i think my favorite scene in the comic is actually when ray first talks to the angel just because i thought him so nervous about giving her a gift was adorable

DracoPlato

oh i did like that

Respheal

Aww yeah xD

DracoPlato

as i thought Ray you're just wasting your money giving a physical object to an angel

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Ray being so cute cute

I was like "c'mon big sis, at least accept it!"

AngelicEmpyress

im here... unprepared but here

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

"he used some bucks for you"

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

oh Ray has someone who's giving him allowance. He's a school boy. XD

DracoPlato

I had forgotten in the beginning all the foreshadowing that the angel and ray being friends was part of some bigger plan and ray had a sort of mission

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Feather thoughts: As someone not part of this audience for this comic, I really loved the art and the design of Silver. Particularly for me, I am not a fan of characters in high school setting unless it's has some sort of fighting like a fighting high school or training people to fight. I also couldn't help but feel really disconnected because I think black wings as people who are part Tengu from too many things I have seen, or crow wings which I love. I am also not fond of stories about Angels unless it's of course, super action intense. Apparently there is fighting later but I don't have the capacity to read through to find the fighting scenes. I hope the comic gets a lot more viewers because it seems awesome but I myself am sorry I can not add to that count.

RebelVampire

mharz speaking of him getting the angel a present, i wanna ask, was that a lot of money or not? cause i converted it to $ but obviously expense depends a lot on the costs around them

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Anyways I will be heading out soon so enjoy yourselves everyone

AngelicEmpyress

thanks feather!

Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing

Mharz is indeed so good at drawing wings

mathtans

Silver is so cool. She's, like, having to balance everything out between the angels and humans. I feel.

AngelicEmpyress

i know!! i want to draw wings like that

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Silver is fucking best

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

@RebelVampire it's around 1-ish bucksss

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I love her in deisgn and personality

AkaLevi

silver is a goddess

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

OMG

mathtans

Oh yeah, hey, I like the little spanish touches like the pesos.

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Silver's hilarious. :3

Respheal

The Silver 4koma comics are

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

Pesos is actually our currency here as well

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

I actually really like the bonus drawings Mharz does for her XD

DracoPlato

I was actually surprised how serious silver is in story rereading it XD

RebelVampire

i appreciate how more mature silver is than all the others

DracoPlato

cause i'm so used to all of Mharz's doodles of her

Respheal

lol!

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

4koma!silver is a troll :3

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

@DracoPlato You haven't seen nothing yet.

mathtans

Well, all the local references I probably should have said. I'm ignorant.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

lmao what about Daddy SIlver

tsk tsk

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

Silver is the sunshine from all the broods and angst.

mathtans

Oh, some of those bonus drawings, wow... I was laughing so much at the Q&A, well played...

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I liked when they were in the dream, and Ray was "what's going on?" Silver "well, IDK"

JUST

screms

mathtans

Hahahaha.

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

Silver might know and just trollin' as always

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Silver and Big sis also said they can't really talk directly with people, right?

so even if she knew, she really shouldn't tell 'im

she's just followin' da rulez.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

still was funny

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Oh, yeah. >:3

RebelVampire

silver is a rule follower which i can appreciate :"D

mathtans

Does anyone else think Mara can see angels? I think she can see angels.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I like that Silver is pulling off that image of funny angel who knows nothing, when actually she knows everything and when she gets serious WE ALL WILL DIE

screms

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Silver strikes me as someone who engages in malicious compliance >:3

DracoPlato

well she was going to tell Ray but someone stopped her

more than her just being a troll about it

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

@AkaLevi Did you say goddess???? :V

mathtans

Silver got serious with demons, wooo.

AngelicEmpyress

wants to draw as good as mharz ;-;

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

God: "Woah there Silver-daughteru, you can't just tell people, wtf, I told you not to"

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

@mathtans -- I think Mara is sensitive at minimum, but maybe not able to fully see them

DracoPlato

the sleeve kind of looked like Big Sis's

of the person that stopped her

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

I get the idea that she's aware of their presence 'nat

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

She WAS really going to spoil stuffs at Ray. I guess the universe just doesn't want to. (namely me)

mathtans

kabocha: Fair point there. Hmmmm.

RebelVampire

@mathtans @kabocha, baroness of sparkles Yeah i dont think mara can full see them. i think she just trusts her senses

DracoPlato

but i don't think silver would be stopped by Big Sis in that moment

so it made me wonder if it was one of the spoiler characters

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Plot twist, Mharz is the real god and somehow we'll see her in the comic :y

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

oh course mharz is there god, she made them

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

don't kill my jokes reee

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i wasn't trying to

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

LOOOOOL

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Silver I summon you, save me

I wanna know more about Raphael too (husbando)

he looks interesting in design, but hasn't done much

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

@Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings so she believes in sweating out a fever lmao

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

yus

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

>Ironically works

RebelVampire

yeah raphael made me curious. especially cause he looked at them all like they was up to no good

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i'm sure raph is just a busy guy so he can't hang around often

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

He is super busy

XD

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Theory: Raphael is super serious dude who likes sweets

mathtans

Here's another off the wall theory: Big Sis actually IS Ray's big sister, that he didn't know he had. And she can't forgive herself for dying before meeting here, and she thinks he won't forgive her either. ^^

AngelicEmpyress

i like that theory lol

RebelVampire

lol omg

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

WHAT

screming

Respheal

O:

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I like it too

AkaLevi

my brain just exploded

RebelVampire

can only picture ray being like "HOW DARE YOU DIE EVEN THO YOU PROBABLY COULDNT CONTROL IT"

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

we're going very deep lmao

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

rip

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

I dunno, I was partially subscribing to the theory that Big Sis was somehow responsible for Ray's suffering >_> .............

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I have another theory

mathtans

Well, that's compatible with my theory. ^.^

I think outside the box. Most boxes.

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

yay box!

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Big Sis is actually Ray's guardian, but because of something she did, she was made get away from him

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

she killed his parents.

has hit morbid hour

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

pretty much what I was thinking

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

what that turned dark

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

well, I mean

her wings are black for a reason

and what sort of grave sin has she committed~?

mathtans

OOooooh.

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

okay I'm going to stop with the crazy mass guessing now

RebelVampire

might as well hit the second question early XD

AkaLevi

continue please

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

In theory, according to the story, a sin made by a guardian would be interfiering with the normal life of mortals, which they shouldn't, cause they must let people live whatever it's happening, all they can do is guide them, but if that doesn't work, rip

RebelVampire

QUESTION 2. The most poignant mystery in the entire comic is the story behind the Angel’s black wings. Though the story has hinted she did something terrible/rule-breaking to earn them, little else has been revealed. Why do you think the Angel has black wings (or, in other words, what terrible crime has she committed)? How will this affect the future of the story?

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

saw the spoiler animaotin mharz did

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

o_o

I wanna see it

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

NO

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

A fallen angel has only one path

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I'VE ERASED IT FROM EXISTENCE

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

that is

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

:Y

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

hell

mathtans

The black wings are a fashion choice.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i can't say it cuase spoilers

DracoPlato

I think she stabbed someone with scissors(edited)

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

are we ready to go down right

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

@Queen Brave Hikari of Memes but has she fallen yet?

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

Draco LOL

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

maybe she's ABOUT TO

DracoPlato

I'm really branching out there

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

theory time again

She needs another trigger and then BOOM, fallen Big Sis appears

mathtans

Maybe she's part demon? ^.^

That's why they want her back? ^.^

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

well mharz in all fairness from a number of related things you made it does hint that big sis did fuck up someones day with scissors(edited)

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

WELP.

mathtans

She ran with scissors. That's a no-no.

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

And she gets a hair color change too, yeh?

DracoPlato

well we already know she broke the angel rules not to interfere with humans, and she stabbed some humans with scissors defending someone

based on what's been shown

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

oh my god

So, based on the theories here, let's come up with something

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

All of our theories says Big Sis f-cked up and she'll go more down in the deep

DracoPlato

probably the more angel rules you break the more you become a demon

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

tumbling down tumbling down

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Here's what we definitely know 1. Big Sis, based on evidence, was human at one point. 2. Ray's parents are gone. 3. Big Sis did something horrible.

RebelVampire

maybe she used scissors cause the thought that somehow itd be a loophole in the angel rules

DracoPlato

her powers were black too when she was going to protect ray

Respheal

I figure it's something she was pretty much forced into doing like...if I don't do this things will be much worse

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I imagine the angel's rules like the book from Fairy Oddparents DA RULEZ

rip

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

ergo: Big sis was ray's big sis. She kept watching him after she passed, and eventually killed their parents to protect him.

WITH SCISSORS.

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

Brave, somehow I was imagining that too.

XD

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Raphael is Jorgen(edited)

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

but smol(edited)

AkaLevi

but how Ray doesn´t remember her then?

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

We can all be buffed Jojo's in our hearts

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Because he could have been an infant.

or very young

mathtans

Doing evil for the "greater good" kind of thing.

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

most kids don't remember anything before 3years of age

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

road to hell as they say

AkaLevi

true

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

morbid crack theory: established.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Does Ray even have a good memory?

or maybe trauma could make him forget

RebelVampire

i wouldnt be surprised ray doesnt remember having a sister cause in all the time of being friends with mara it never came up she had a bro XD

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I am so reading the archive of this.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

another theory time lol

DracoPlato

if she killed his parents though that kind of goes against her personality though since she was most likely protecting someone

so they'd have to of been doing something cruel at the time

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

@DracoPlato --- yeah, I think that's about the only reason she'd have done it. Serious abuse or something.

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

maybe too much booz

DracoPlato

angel went to too many bars

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Though, one thing to discredit this: don't angels appear at the same age as they died?

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

rip

uhmm idk that

Respheal

There can be a significant age difference between siblings

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Based on Mara's brother anyway

That's true, Res

Big Sis strikes me as 30s tho

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Maybe Mara's case is a special one?

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I personally have a 15 years gap with my sister

:V

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

HMMMMM

Mharz is not discrediting the theory.

HMMMMM!!!!

mathtans

Maybe one of Ray's parents was a demon! So Big Sis killed the demon, not knowing!

Respheal

HMMMM

lols(edited)

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Mharz will make us all think we're correct

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

and then we'll find out Big Sis is actually Ray's mom.

mathtans

If one of Ray's parents was a demon, it explains why he can see them.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

omfg

but wait

RebelVampire

i vote for ray being half demon O_O

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

in latest episodes, Mara hinted like she thanked to big Sis

RebelVampire

mostly cause i want that

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

what if she also is kinda like Ray

what if having an angel as a dead sibling gives you the ability to see them

oh no I killed the chat

oh there we go

DracoPlato

half demon ray, hell yeah

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

lololol

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

I can't quite remember, but I think angels can kinda choose to share their aura with someone?

or something like that?

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

rip

DracoPlato

kabo did make me think he probably witnessed the angel stabbing people when he was a child

that's why her face was familiar

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Mmm. Maybe he remembers her protecting him as a youngin.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

He could had gotten a trauma

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

So, if Big Sis is not a family member of Ray's, then she definitely did something to his formerly living family to protect him.

RebelVampire

maybe the angel kidnapped ray from his parents and took him to her murder house

DracoPlato

LOL

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Mharz, I'm thinking there's a yandere Big Sis AU.

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I'm honestly getting terrified with all your crazy theories. XD

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

LOL

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

OMG

mathtans

Because they're all true?

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I-I.........

rip

xD

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

who knows?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

mathtans

Silver knows, but she's not telling.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Silver knows everything

AkaLevi

yandere big sis....interesting

RebelVampire

yeah i really wanna know who stopped silver from blabbing everything

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Theory: Silver is satan

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

few people know the truth

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I would be scared at yandere big sis

DracoPlato

you're secretly a wizard ray

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

MHARZ HAS SAID SOMEONE HIT TOO CLOSE TO HOME

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I mean look at her gigantic scissors

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

someone did it?

who

AngelicEmpyress

ooooo

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

so many questions

AngelicEmpyress

suspense

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

I'm deeply curious, but it's a seekrit

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I ain't telling LOL.

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

the answers lie within the chat

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

THE ANSWER IS IN YOUR HEART

RebelVampire

a mystery

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

BELIEVE IN THE HEART OF THE CARDS

RebelVampire

i guess everyone will have to comb the archive

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

My kokoro tells me we're all right

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

damn it yugi

mathtans

Mara was Silver the WHOLE TIME.

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Silver is Mara's Alter Ego.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

HOW

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

rip

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

you never see them in the same place!

DracoPlato

mara is the Angel's past

and Ray is the angel's husbandu

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Mara is the reincarnation of Big Sis's sis

DracoPlato

and she's gone to the past to save him

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

Draco how is that possible?(edited)

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

lel

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Ohh, that's a really good question -- do the angels have the ability to time travel

RebelVampire

maybe ray and the angel are the same person then. and when the moon goes up ray and mara become magical angel girls

DracoPlato

TIME TRAVEL

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

ARE THEY DISPLACED TEMPORALLY

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

Draco this isn't Zenchav. :V

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

And this is how Silver knows Lyall.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Angels in Mharz's universe don't age right

rip

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

everything leads back to zenchav.

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

they don't....

DracoPlato

i think it has been mentioned once in every chat

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

WHERE ARE THE KIDS

mathtans

The angels fly at 88mph.

RebelVampire

speaking of angels aging, did we learn what happens when angels die? besides disappearing i mean

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Now I want over +100 kids of Silver and Big Sis

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

OMG CALI LIVES!!!

RebelVampire

like

are they gone poof forever

DracoPlato

oh i did wonder that too

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

am i late

DracoPlato

what is the after life for an angel

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Do they have a chance to be reborn?

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

sup cali

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

CALI

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

Brave that's seems not a good idea

nah yer good cali

RebelVampire

no youre late cali

to the stocks with you

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

rip

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

rip

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

for some reason I thought someone said "Super cali" and I was like, where's the rest of the dang line

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

cali was good soul...until she was late

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

people die when they killed

DracoPlato

omg i wasn't online

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Anyway, so yeah, what happens to angels after THEY die? Do they reincarnate? Do they disappear? Are they gone?

what happens to a destroyed soul

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

the acher class really is made of archers

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Angels can be reborn as humans?

mathtans

When angels die, they become clouds.

RebelVampire

do they become demons because they failed their angelic duty

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

gasp

DracoPlato

when an angel dies do they go to another story

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

omg

DracoPlato

story reincarnation

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

damn it draco

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

totaly makes sense

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I'd totally laugh if cali slept thru it after going thru the effort of rereading it. XD

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

rip

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

she still kinda made it

we're just on q5

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

pats cali

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

i missed the 30 first mins of it

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

hugs cali

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

lol

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Cali: we think Big sis killed ray's parents prolly

RebelVampire

assuming theyre dead. maybe theyre just abroad

having fun without ray

cause fuck ray

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

LOOOL

mathtans

Also one of ray's parents was a demon.

DracoPlato

i thought his dad was still alive

RebelVampire

yes demon ray canon accepted

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

"Abroad" is code for dead.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Ray's Daddy is a demon

screms

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Ray's dad is .... Rex?

DracoPlato

ray's father is damon

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

it was rex the whole time

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

Oh no

Damon and Ray are related!!!

gasp

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

TAWB X Zenchav

THE CROSSOVER

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

why zenchav connect to eveything now

DracoPlato

ray you're damon's brother via rex

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Because it's a thing.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

because Zenchav is everything

we're all Damon's childs

DracoPlato

it gives us life

yus

RebelVampire

because time traveling space macaroon

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

i do feel like big sis might have something to do with his parents tho

:y

DracoPlato

loooool

silver is ray's mother and father

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

rip Ray

mathtans

Because time travel, Draco?

RebelVampire

idk tho. are his parents even relevant. cause i mean besides the fact they arent present, the fact they havent been mentioned makes me wonder if they matter

DracoPlato

always time travel

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Poor Ray.

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

his mom was mentioned once

but ray dodged the question

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

I feel like I remember his mom being dead.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

He lives alone tho

DracoPlato

i used to think the angel was his mom

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

same

:' D

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

but silver is mom

RebelVampire

maybe the angel is his grandma

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Silver is dad

DracoPlato

i did wonder if she was grandma in the reread

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

silver is all

RebelVampire

didnt get her grandson enough presents

AkaLevi

we are silver

RebelVampire

failed her grandma duty

DracoPlato

but i dunno, based on my spoiler timeline

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

draco keeps a spoiler timeline??

DracoPlato

in my head

AngelicEmpyress

lol

DracoPlato

always

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

LOLOLOL

AngelicEmpyress

draco keeps everything in head

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

No Fair, Draco, you know spoilers.

mathtans

Maybe Big Sis is the mom of that bully character. Maybe that's why the wings are black.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

wot

DracoPlato

her wings are black cause her son is a jack ass

wha

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

her wings are black because fashion

mathtans

And she's all "you can never forgive my son? harsh"

RebelVampire

lol thatd actually be kind of funny

if the angel was the mom of that bully

DracoPlato

bullies have feelings too ray

RebelVampire

who always beats ray up

takes his lunch money

mathtans

She probably always wanted to hit him with an apple.

DracoPlato

i would love that XD it'd be so out of the blue

mathtans

But was too nice.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Ray is actually the MC of a harem drama manga

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

gott throw all the apples

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

So, serious question. Is Ray using Big Sis as a surrogate for actual human friendships at this point? I worry about him a little!

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

N-Notice me, Ray senpai

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

brave he isn't already?

DracoPlato

the apple is the prelude to the angel's death note

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I do think Ray will have some humans friends at some point

mathtans

kabocha: Good point! I wonder if that's a bit of why he doesn't want to forgive Mara? He prefers angel relationships to human ones now.

AngelicEmpyress

lol draco

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

he can't be friends with "something" only he can see

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

becos humans suck???

:V

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

almost like an imaginary friend

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Angels are basically perfect and not likely to not harm him emotionally. ... He thinks.

oh god, whatever Big Sis did is going to hurt him isn't it.

DracoPlato

someone is human racist

mathtans

But he's met Silver. ^.^

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

it's going to like, really, really hurt whenever that's revealed.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I am human racist (?)

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

rip

RebelVampire

i think ray is using big sis to project that he doesnt want to believe ppl are awful but if he admits that humans arent awful then maybe he has to take responsibility for himself and his own actions.

DracoPlato

nyu mharz

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

in all seriousness tho, I HOPE Ray recovers his friendship with Mara

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Cue Ray running into the arms of demons and having to be saved

DracoPlato

only angel friends are best friends

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

at least in a way

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

though it might be annoying for him that big sis keeps pushing mara's forgiveness on him lol

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

who doesn't want to be bestfriend with a pretty angel?

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

maybe not completely friends, but maybe being in peace with eachother

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

he is quite annoyed about that.

DracoPlato

i dunno, i might just think i'd lost my mind too

gasp is ray just crazy

mathtans

She should probably stop pushing so hard.

It's not working.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

It's more likely Big Sis was talking to herself about forgiveness

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

he even asked why she's so adamant about it.(edited)

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

@Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear -- I sincerely feel like Big Sis is probably aware he's gonna need human friends.

RebelVampire

haha i really loved that scene if only cause i was like "ray are you that dense bro?"

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Because when he figures out whatever she did.... NOPE BAD THINGS DRAMA ANGST RAY

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Plot twist: his future friends will be the bullies

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

LMAO

AkaLevi

lol

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

this is all in Big Sis plans

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

drama angst. XD

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

MORE DRAMA

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

ALL THE DRAMA

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

EMOTIONAL PAIIIIIIIIIN

DracoPlato

okay so, i think if the angel said nothing about forgiveness and was just generally kind to him rather than nagging him and showed him what a good person she was and how much she cared that'd actually be more effective for her point about forgiveness

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

how could this happen to meeeeee

DracoPlato

cause in story she seems like just a pushy nag about it

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

HURT PEOPLE WITH EMOTIONS

DracoPlato

and i feel like that just makes it worse in wanting ray to rebel emotionally

mathtans

I made my mistaaaakes, got nowhere to ruuuuun....

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

@DracoPlato -- I do have similar feelings about it. I feel like she's got another motive.

DracoPlato

yeah

RebelVampire

yeah tbh i think the angel is kind of a bad role model for ray cause shes not that emotionally stable it seems like it XD

DracoPlato

i feel like the angel is really selfish

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I think even so, Ray will want to know why, considering his personality, he's going to also be pushy about Sis past

DracoPlato

and she's not speaking for ray's benefit but her own, and in that way i don't feel like she's a nice person

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

freaks out a lot

XD

mathtans

I don't see her as selfish, she doesn't seem to think much about herself.

DracoPlato

but i also don't think ray is that nice of a person either

mathtans

Ray's stubborn.

DracoPlato

cause he's also very self centered

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I considered Big Sis talking more to herself than to Ray, which is why her "advices" doesn't really work(edited)

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

now that you think about it none of these characters are nice...

mathtans

Brave: I can see that.

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I'm a great creator!(edited)

DracoPlato

yeah they're all kind of awful people, lol XD

RebelVampire

haha ray tbh has a victim complex to me

DracoPlato

or at least have a lot of emotional growing up to do

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

LOL

DracoPlato

yeah i agree with rebel big time on that

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Same

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Ray needs to be smacked upside the head.

Get Silver to do it.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Ray puts a huge wall on him about "I WON'T FORGIVE ANY OF YOU FUCKS, LEAVE ME ALONE"

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

he's only 15... he'll learn... probably...

RebelVampire

probably

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Ray needs a slap from mommy

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

LOOL

mathtans

Perfect people are boooooooring.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

SIlver Mommy

RebelVampire

QUESTION 3. Ray has a strong belief that people are fairly awful. This becomes more evident as Mara, an old friend who betrayed him, now seeks his forgiveness. Of course, in his stubbornness, Ray refuses to forgive her. Do you think that Ray will eventually forgive Mara? Do you think she deserves his forgiveness? What do you think will happen in Mara’s future as far as the plot is concerned, whether she earns forgiveness or not?

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

UHMMMMM

Okay I gotta type this

gimme a bit

DracoPlato

Oh yeah i think he'll forgive her for sure

forgiveness is the overall theme of the story it feels like atm too so if he didn't the theme would fall really flat, lol

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

imagines ray finally forgiving once they're both super old

mathtans

I think she deserves his forgiveness, based on what we've seen. I think she might give up on life now that her brother isn't able to talk to her any more. I don't think he'll forgive her until it's nearly too late.

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

LMAO

only forgave on his deathbed

rip

DracoPlato

that'd be awesome XD

RebelVampire

my mind went to dark places. wondered what would happen if mara died before ray could forgive her and thats what makes him realize well shit, not forgiving ppl sucks

DracoPlato

I forgive you now, can i be an angel too?

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

omg

DracoPlato

it's okay

RebelVampire

i think ray should forgive her tho because at the end theyre stupid teens

stupid teens fuck up

DracoPlato

he can forgive her ghost

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

Ray is drowned by the guilt? LOL

mathtans

Rebel, that's where I'm kinda going too.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I think Mara is going to be forgiven, at some point, considering they're childhood friends, Ray's development could lead to him actually doing it because of the good times. But ALSO, I think Mara will try to do stuff so Ray will see she has changed for good. Like Ray has hinted: he won't forgive cause they don't even try to repair what they ahve done. So I think we'll have some sort of Mara's redemption on ehr own, maybe with small things

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

wooh, zoned out ofr a minute.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

breathes in

mathtans

Draco: Do ghosts exist in this world? Or only angels?

DracoPlato

oh that's a good question

only Mharz knows

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

there are spirits

mathtans

Like bourbon, vodka...

DracoPlato

LOL

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

-Ray is pretty immature at times. I feel like he needs to get over his issues with people being awful -- tbh all we've seen is his issues with classmates being horrible, but not much interaction with adults? So I guess he's mid angst. Still going with the "my parents are DEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD" theory. I do think Ray will forgive her. It might be far off. He's very stuck in his own self-wallowing.

RebelVampire

idk if mara should work that hard for redemption. tbh i think its ray who needs to work hard because at this point hes just being stubborn

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

would be a cruel twist if ray someday was ready to forgive her when she suddenly dies somehow

RebelVampire

no no there was that one interaction with the old lady who brought him food

DracoPlato

In ray's interactions with adults he's always lying

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

CALI NO

DracoPlato

saying everything is okay

RebelVampire

and then he was like "BLEH SHE DOESNT CARE"

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

DIS PEAR

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

cali stop

DracoPlato

yeah wtf ray she just gave you food

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

keep your pears in your comic

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

chapter 4 :3

AkaLevi

nice Cali xD

DracoPlato

This nice old lady gave me food but fuq her, she doesn't care about me

RebelVampire

angels are ghosts confirmed

mathtans

Good callback.

DracoPlato

i see why people beat you up ray

RebelVampire

yeah i really disliked ray with the old lady

like wtf bro

she was checking up on you

and you like i hate you

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

:V

DracoPlato

so i guess "mere soul" is ghost

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

yus

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

"ooo lady gives me food and i live alone now i don't have to cook/buy food" "PEOPLE SUCK SHE DIDN'T CARE SHES A BECH"

RebelVampire

what happens to the mere soul tho if it doesnt become an angel

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Ray is a teenage boy...

RebelVampire

is it a ghost 5ever?

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

Ray in a nutshell

DracoPlato

yeah how does this ghost thing work long term

are just just a ghost forever

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Ray being Ray

mathtans

Until your ghost wings fall off. ^.^

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

mara's ghost forever haunting ray

DracoPlato

not my ghost wings

RebelVampire

the ghosts of rays parents are there the whole time and only the angel can see them

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

works the same they stay in heaven or hell if they good or bad

once the time comes

XD

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

rip

DracoPlato

so when an angel dies they just go to heaven?

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Cali wants Mara dead

I can see it in her eyes

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

nu

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Oh god, Mara's gonna die

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

MORE DRAMA

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

rip Mara

DracoPlato

why is it different for ghosts dying tho

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

OMG

DracoPlato

than angels dying

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

WITH EXPLOSIONS

DracoPlato

if they're both vehicle less at that point

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

So then canon Mara dies so we see how her spirit goes out and works

DracoPlato

so really both are just a soul

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

that's the thing

mathtans

But it's only temporarily dead. She's too cute to die for reals!

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

souls can dissapate as well... since they have no bodies anymore.

DracoPlato

so why do some souls go to heaven and some just go away forever

RebelVampire

so are we saying if they dissapate they just cease to exist?

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

:V

DracoPlato

that doesn't make much sense XD

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

"No comment"

AkaLevi

reincarnation is not a thing then?

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

that's what I'm taking :V as

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

LOOL

DracoPlato

if there's a hell too then why would souls ever just disappear forever

if there's places that others go

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

so they die if they're killed, forever

DracoPlato

omg brave

it's a true statement now

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

people die when they're killed

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

angels die if they are killed

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I SAW IT, I SEE THE FUTURE, YOU DOUBTED ABOUT ME

RebelVampire

the angels go to the super afterlife

DracoPlato

but not you random soul, you get to go to heaven, yay

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

quick, someone draw ray doing the shirou face

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

angels go to angel valhalla

DracoPlato

unlike you other random soul who sucks and gets to never exist again

mathtans

Angels dye when they're bored. Hence black wings.

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

rip

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

LOL

RebelVampire

LOL

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

that's what actually happened. Big Sis dyed her wings black becos it's fashionable

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

she wanted to be known as the emo angel

RebelVampire

and everyone just pretends she did something bad

mathtans

Trendsetter.

RebelVampire

so she can seem edgy

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

well she did a pretty good job

:V

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

edgyy

I want Silver with black wings now

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

edgy silver

RebelVampire

now picturing the angel and silver as 90s street punks

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

yis

RebelVampire

silver with a pompadour

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

LOL

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

oh that doesn't suit her

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

omg

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

XD

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I imagined them like KISS

Help

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

rip

AkaLevi

god xD

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

i wanna see both of those

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I'm not in my tablet rn

XD

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Mhaaaaaarz drawwwww

DRAW ON THE FLOOR

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

wat

RebelVampire

draw with your life blood

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

rip

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

^I ws about to type the blood

edgy

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

draw with mara's blood

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

oh god

Cali

DracoPlato

loooool

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Cali wants to see everyone dying

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

We're going to see a page in psycheteria show up with Mara dead.

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

that'll be her cameo

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I imagine Silver being a Dezar with a face paint

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

her dead

LOL

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I would pay for that

RebelVampire

mara was sen's dead sister all alone

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

dun dun dun

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

OMG

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

Mara's Angel was Sen in disguise

then got sent to Fenaur

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

We'll go to Fenaur now

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

thats the true afterlife

of dead angels

get reborn to fenaur

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Cali will make it canon and possible

I believe in her

RebelVampire

anyway

i wonder if mara knows her bro is gone. or does she just think he went on angel vacation

DracoPlato

oh i wondered that too

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

that'd be awkward if ray had to bring it up in some way

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

I think she has an inkling

DracoPlato

i'm sorry mara, your brother died.....again

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

What if she saw him in a dream before he finally vanished, so because of that Mara changed?

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

"hey uh mara your brother was an angel and i think he angel died sorry about that"

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Like, she's changing because of her bro

mathtans

Brave: I can see that.

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

i wonder if he warned her in dream that he won't be there for her much longer

in that sense

mathtans

"You need to make some human friends again"

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

I read that as "that she won't be there for much longer"

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

It would be possible, with his last's energy

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

and I was like, damn, Cali, you really wanna see Mara ded.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

"you need REAL friends"

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

"real friends aka ray because forgiveness hunting is a fun thing we like to watch"

AkaLevi

who doesn´t wanna see Mara dead?

RebelVampire

i wonder why mara's bro didnt point out her girl friends were bitches

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Maybe he couldn't really interfiere?

mathtans

I don't wanna see Mara dead! She's been through enough already. And I like her hairstyle.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

liek because it was her decision and shit

RebelVampire

i dont wanna see mara dead even tho i think itd be a dark twist

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

liek because it was her decision and shit

RebelVampire

i dont wanna see mara dead even tho i think itd be a dark twist

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

uhhh I don't... that would be bad

edgy Silver and Dezar

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Mara is plot relevant and therefore cannot die.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

omfg

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

PLOT ARMOR.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

so then her part time job...

mathtans

kabocha: Plot includes angels. I think death is fair game.

DracoPlato

true

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

actually don't wanna see mara dead either, i like her a little more than Ray :y

RebelVampire

i would like to see more of the demons in the story

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I like Ray in certain moments in the comic

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

" a little more"

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

MORE DEMONS

RebelVampire

meet the demon who got ostracized for being not evil enough

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

aka, when he's not agnsty

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

demon beefcake.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

oh true, more demons

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

i read that as damon beefcake

RebelVampire

cause iirc they wanted to bring in the angel

DracoPlato

ray has non angsty moments? XD

RebelVampire

cause they were like yaay evil angel

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

OMG

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

like their real goal with the attack

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

beefcake babies

DracoPlato

LOL

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

DAMON!

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

rip

DracoPlato

that damn demon damon

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

oh that reminds me

while i was rereading

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

It's official, for now on, I'll put Zenchav as the top of the line of how our universe works, like Zenchav in the god place

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

one of the demons kinda had ray-hair for one of the panels

and made me like

"OMG WHAT IF RAY'S DAD WAS A DEMON OR SOMETHING"

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Daddy demon might be a thing

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

oh god, demon blood theory is back. This could be a thing.

RebelVampire

we already headcanoned ray as a half demon while you werent here

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

gdi

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

daddy

RebelVampire

ray's father satan confirmed

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

rip cali

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

ray's father actually rex

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

those 30 minutes were good as theories

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

you have a brother now damon

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

we stated that too

DracoPlato

looool

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Damon is the father of all of us

no exceptions

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

this is what i get for sleeping late rip

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

rip

DracoPlato

well i can explain the whole universe if needed, but at another time, lol

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I read that as I can explain how the universe ended

AngelicEmpyress

i want to be there when you do drace ^_^

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

llooool

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

rip

AngelicEmpyress

draco >.>

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

But from death everything comes to life again

or some shit like that

DracoPlato

i got the deepest rabbit hole

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

like ray's ability to forgive

maybe

DracoPlato

ray will forgive

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Ray's ability to forgive is deeper than the abysm

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

forgiveness has power

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

So, building on the theory so far: Ray's father is a demon. Ray is half demon. Big sis was his mom or sister. She killed someone. Probably Ray's father. >:3 Ray is due for a heroic bsod and mara will halp

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

Ray just forgive the girl

LOL

DracoPlato

i believe ray is a good boy deep down, he's just young

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

very deep down tho

RebelVampire

what interested me more in that panel

like

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

young and angsty

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

imagine the song kiss the girl but replace kiss with forgive

RebelVampire

is silver someone else

DracoPlato

oh yeah

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I totally think SIlver is someone VERY important

what if she's an archangel

DracoPlato

that foreshadowing there i didn't pick up until the re read

AngelicEmpyress

thats what i was thinking!

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

so she's allowed to do whatever she wants

RebelVampire

ah thatd be cool if silver didnt have to follow the rules but is so mature she does because she naturally sees their place and purpose

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

or maybe she's infamous for trolling a lot.

mathtans

Silver is the one who gave Big Sis the black wings, as an example to all the other angels. But now she feels bad.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

gdi

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

silver why

DracoPlato

silver thought the black wings would look nice with big sis' hair

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

S-Silver is not bad, uguuuu

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Silver dumped her ink on big sis on accident

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

LOL

AkaLevi

xD

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

that is a huge amount of ink

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

silver is a comic artist. Works with the best inks and paper. But still can't stop spillin' it

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

she ransacked an ink making company just to pull off the ink dump prank

accidentally stained her wings

"woops sorry"

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

that is something she might do

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

it's canon

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

it's probably good angels don;'t eat if their wings stain easily

imagine having to walk around with fried chicken and/or pizza stains on your wings

mathtans

I read that as "probably good angels don't eat their wings"...

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

rip

the wings are actually chicken wings and can be fried

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

So this is all about Ray funding KFC

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Ray becomes the Colonel.

mathtans

K stands for Kara.

RebelVampire

i like the idea that silver gave the angel the black wings

and feels guilty now

mathtans

Sometimes I have zany theories that make sense!

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

XD

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Hrrrm.

DracoPlato

my thing is why didn't big sis become a demon

if she did something bad

how many chances are you given and is she getting sepcial treatment

and maybe she'd be happier as a demon

mathtans

She wouldn't become one, they only form from bad human emotions, right?

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

She was good before, and maybe her motives for the bad thing were ultimately good.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

That's kinda what I was saying, like, maybe big Sis is about to turn into a fallen one

we need another trigger

aka RAY

RebelVampire

i dont think shed be happier as a demon since the demons are supposed to guide ppl down the sinful path

DracoPlato

lucifer became a demon tho if it follows christianity and they were an angel

RebelVampire

i think shes a bad angel and a bad demon

would make good human

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

^

RebelVampire

QUESTION 4. In the story, Ray is revealed as special for his ability to be able to see the angels. When he asks the Angel about this and other rules they’re breaking, the Angel simply states she and Ray are exceptions. Why do you think Ray can see angels and what does it have to do with the larger story? Do he and the Angel have past history (and, if so, what)? Is his ability related to this theoretical back history, or is something bigger going on?

mathtans

Maybe Big Sis could only make it part of the way to being an angel. The black wings were a gift.

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

YES

they have history. She's gotta be family

or have transgressed against him

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I think Ray and Big Sis are connected in some way, idk if family thing directly, but totally connected and because of that Ray can see them

DracoPlato

hmmm

mathtans

Ray can see angels because one of his parents was a demon. Angel killed the demon. ^.^

DracoPlato

oh i like that theory math

RebelVampire

tbh for me right now i think ray's abilities are independent of the angel. if only because i cant fathom what the angel wouldve done that wouldve gone "woooga wooga now you see da angels"

DracoPlato

i actually would prefer if they were separate

just because it's less predictable

mathtans

Maybe Ray just lives in a perpetual state of being half asleep.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

That sounds good too

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Maybe it's all a dream.

And Ray is in a coma.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

but Idk, if it wasmentioned before, don't mind me, but since when Ray can see angels?

mathtans

Since the start of the story? Hmmmm.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

in timeline

DracoPlato

maybe since he was a kid, it didn't seem like it was new

RebelVampire

thats a good point

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

since he was a little?

RebelVampire

i dont think it was stated

mathtans

Yeah, no, was trying to think about that.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

when puberty kicked in?

RebelVampire

but yeah i agree it didnt seem like it was new

so its at least been for a while

mathtans

Damn those puberty angels.

RebelVampire

i wonder how long he stalked the angel before talking to her

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Puberty really mess up yer body sometimes :y

now you see angels everywhere

I believe Big Sis was the one stalking to Ray, in a way

RebelVampire

maybe ray is dying soon and thats why he and the angel dont have to follow the rules when together. maybe the angel is the grim reaper now

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

oh no

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

rip

DracoPlato

i did wonder why she was always around for him to see, since she can fly anywhere

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

people die if they're killed

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

that's why her wings are black.

mathtans

Ray DOES seem to be key though, I remember there was a scene where Big Sis was saying his actions would ripple out to everyone he knew.

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

She's an angel of death.

DracoPlato

shinigami angel

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

becos Ray is playing Life is Strange

XD

RebelVampire

maybe the angel is going to angel die and ray has to take her place as grim reaper

mathtans

What? Where are the lesbians? ^.^

RebelVampire

ray doesnt have cool time reversing power tho O_O

DracoPlato

not yet anyway

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

not yet

in Zenchav universe, everything is possible

DracoPlato

this is true

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

wait, we have the yuri

Big Sis x Silver

DracoPlato

yus

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

this is totally life is strange

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

LOOOOOOL

mathtans

Oh, yay!

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

we're just missing the time travel powers

just one step my friendo

RebelVampire

but yeah i wondered why the angel was just always in his vicinity. like was just waiting. playing hard to get

being like "why hasnt he talked to me yet "(edited)

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

psh who needs that? I say play as it lies

XD

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Big Sis was always waiting to Ray maybe

not like she knew it was Ray

but to that someone who would save her

DracoPlato

big sis why you stalking young boys

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

Big Sis and Silver is just a crack ship

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I got deep again

rip

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

becos I'm full of crack

XD

mathtans

She may not have known he could see. Myabe he was just sensitive, like Mara.

DracoPlato

i think she lived in the area

and wasn't stalking ray but her old life

RebelVampire

oh thats true

but idk

i mean she knows ray

DracoPlato

he said her face was familiar too

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

tehy were building in that place where Big Sis was stading

what if they demolished her old house

mathtans

She was haunting them.

RebelVampire

rip house

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

ray reincarnation?

mathtans

ray-incarnation?

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

LOOL

DracoPlato

loooooool

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

LOLOLOL

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

knows her in a previous life when she was alive

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Big Sis was actually big Sis of Ray in their past life

but Ray died

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

@mathtans oh god that was bad.

RebelVampire

hmm this makes me wonder, since the angel isnt guarding anyone because i assume its punishment, wtf is she supposed to be doing anyway. like...are they just saying "ok take a vacation and maybe youll learn your lesson about sinning. probably."

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Big Sis stayed alone

mathtans

@kabocha, baroness of sparkles Thank you. ^.^

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Admittedly, I wonder if Big Sis might have failed in guarding someone.

DracoPlato

your angel duty is to not cause trouble

i wondered that too though rebel XD

like wtf is your job then

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Maybe she's just with ray because lonely

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Maybe she was going to executed

and she cant come back to heaven

Silver is protecting her

it's their secret(edited)

mathtans

She was going to be executed because love with Silver was forbidden. Romance!

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

drama turned into romance

XD

RebelVampire

i doubt she was going to be executed just cause silver implied the angel could return if the angel got her act together and stopped fucking around

mathtans

I like romance. ^.^

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

maybe the people she was the guardian angel of freaked out cus wtf angel lady and went insane

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I didn't mention romance, but that's a good upgrade

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

So, dumbest question I think: ...Does Ray have sunglasses? If so, are they Ray-ban?

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Kabocha no

XD

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Ahahahaha

RebelVampire

this convo has devolved into bad puns

rip

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

save us rebel

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Quick, @RebelVampire save us~

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

rip

mathtans

If they were Ray-banned, he couldn't wear them.

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

save us from the pun demons

RebelVampire

uh O_O so lets talk about rapheal more and how pretty

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Ray is big Sis ray of light rip me I tried

AkaLevi

puns!!

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I like those thingies that looks like headphones on Raphael

mathtans

Oh! We haven't talked about Silver's kickass weapon yet. It's kickass.

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

ray is hikari

DracoPlato

that is a kick ass weapon

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

:3

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Ray of Light shipping

DracoPlato

silver is kick ass, shes' my fave

RebelVampire

i like how she summoned the weapon

DracoPlato

yeah me too

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

it is her weapon is super badass

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

The flowers were cool

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

i like her flowers

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Cali

RebelVampire

really i think silver is probably the best character

DracoPlato

she's definitely the least angsty at least XD

RebelVampire

is the only one who wont snap and become a serial killer

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

She's the only one who actually smiles

mathtans

I feel like Silver is tortured offscreen. She just puts up a front when around everyone.

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

cool as a cucumber

DracoPlato

she smiles for now

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I wanna see Silver crying

DracoPlato

noooooo

RebelVampire

crack theory: ray is a serial killer and only the angel who is filled with sin is unpure enough to try and fix him. thus why ray's parents arent around. he killed them and their bodies are in the fridge.

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

it got dark for silver real quick

omg

mathtans

Rebel: O.o

DracoPlato

LOL

geezus

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

that is so dark

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

ray's parents did a bad so... he wouldn't forgive them

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

omg

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DracoPlato

i think ray would have killed the bullies by now then

RebelVampire

no no. hes waiting. hell be a suspect if he kills them

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

He could have killed Mara in School Day's style

RebelVampire

cause everyone knows of the abuse

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

They haven't gotten him to crack yet.

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

rip

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

KANASHIMI NO MUKOU HE TO

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

^OMFG YES

DracoPlato

maybe he gets high off the abuse

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

SOMEONE KNEW THE REFERENCE

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

i knew the reference

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

yisss

mathtans

School Days nuuuuuuuuuuu.

RebelVampire

lol thats a sad thought

ray is really just a masochist

mathtans

Dont' put the characters on a boat.

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

so, who's the other person in the love triangle?

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

uhhh

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

uh

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Is Ray Sekai or Kotonoha

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

silver

/shot

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

the bullies

RebelVampire

the bullies

mathtans

The bullies should be their own love triangle! There's three of them, right?

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I still vote bullies will be Ray's friends at some point

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

ray as kotonoha would be frightening

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

They're the other classmates who...

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

the bakarda

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

you know, this is perhaps a little too adult.

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

the baraka

the..

the bully girls

mathtans

I ship the bullies.

RebelVampire

idk the bullies seem kind of one note. i wouldnt be very invested if they were ray's friends

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

bullies x fembullies

RebelVampire

albeit

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

best ship

RebelVampire

i guess ray so bitchy beggars cant be choosers

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

imagine that one boy bully calling ray master

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

"Aniki"

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

ray kills their leader and assimilates

"s-senpai notice me ;A;"

RebelVampire

no cali mharz is all about the yuri not the yaoi

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

so far Ray is a demon and serial killer

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

disappoint

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

rip

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

but how will zage get more yaois for his stash

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Cali we have our gay ships anyway

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

So, everyone in this story is a murderer of some sort except Silver.

mathtans

Nuuuu, Ray's nice. He's just stubborn.

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

and Mara.

RebelVampire

there's ten mins left so are there any serious last thoughts anybody would like to share?

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Mara's the victim.

Silver is the big hero who tries to save her.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I think this story is pretty good so far

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

:' D

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Yeah, crack theories aside, I do enjoy TAWBW a fair bit

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

yus

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I think it advances at its own peace

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

I binged it one weekend

glad it moved off tap tho, the scrolling kills my wrist so much

mathtans

Kudos on some of those asides. Like, some are coloured and everything. I was impressed.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

so calling it slow or not, is not my thing

I liked it from chapter 1

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

shucks you are all so nice

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

even though i wanna slap ray around

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

:' D

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Ray is bad sometimes

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

but i can see from both their PoVs

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Ray is such a teenager.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

but other times he can be good, at least with big Sis

RebelVampire

i like the flow of the story and the art. i do kind of wish the characters developed more quickly. like i really wanna like ray but his chara evolution is going so slow. can only take so much whining :"D

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I'm sure Ray is gonna develop and be nice with someone else than Angels

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

LOL webcomic pacing

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

ray should get a pet

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Ray needs a cat.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

And hedgehog cause spikes

OMG

mathtans

Ray started from a good place though. Like, you feel for his place at the start before you start to wonder why he seems to have issues.

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I do wish I can upload more but I don't wanna blow off my buffer

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

NUUUU don't kill your buffer

mathtans

You have a buffer?? Kudos.

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

your year long buffer?

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

I won't

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

lmao

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

it's slowly diminishing

XD

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Overall, I find these characters pretty good too

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

11 months and 3 weeks

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Idk about other like Raphae cause he hasnt appeared much

RebelVampire

i was sympathetic for ray at first but theres a point where im just like "ok ray now youre just perpetuating your misery."

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

can0t say anything about husbando ; ;

DracoPlato

yeah i agree with rebel

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

husbando will appear again someday

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Ray needs some slaps

maybe metaphorical slaps

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

Silver should slap him

mathtans

Yeah, Ray seems real stubborn.

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

troll slap

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Maybe ray will get a love interest.

mathtans

Ray's love interest... the creator?

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

but he's too angsty to notiiiiice

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I don't think there might be much romance in this comic tbh XD

RebelVampire

haha debatably isnt the angel his love interest tho? like, im skeptical he thinks of her as a sister XD

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

i'd say beat the lame outta ray, but thats one thing that makes him so angsty

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Cause its not the focus

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

the world may never knkow

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

at least that's what Mharz made us see

I-I could be wrong and tomorrow we'll see Ray with a girlfriend

rip

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

Volume 3 will be fun.... probably...

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

married and with kids

mathtans

His girlfriend is that nice old lady in the cafe, Brave?

RebelVampire

and then his girlfriend disappears mysteriously as the angel hides the bloody scissors

DracoPlato

teen dad ray

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

OMFG

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

rip

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

draco no

XD

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

the angel is secretly yandere

shes the kotonoha

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I wanna know who's that old lady from lastest update

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

oh man

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

what's she up to and why talk randomly (maybe it's not random) to Ray

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

I felt so bad for Kotonoha, so now I feel bad for Big Sis.

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I think this comic will get very serious with tons of shit happening very soon

like bye bye slice of life

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

@Queen Brave Hikari of Memes -- agreeeeed

RebelVampire

some ppl in life do just randomly speak to others

mathtans

It's already pretty serious, with demons.

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

I feel like somethin's about to really go down

more demons, more danger

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

it's always serious

:V

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Still suspicious hurrr

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

more ray doing something stupid

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

I feel like ray's about to get upset at big sis in a bad way

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Drink game: take a shot whenever Ray does something stupid

ded

RebelVampire

idk tho. i mean ray forgived her really fast for abandoning him

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

ray is always doing stupid

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

my liver can't handle that

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

"omg theres danger at the mall? LETS CHECK IT OUT "

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

that would be like every page

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

omg

Maybe Ray is being kind of hypocrite?

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

count how much Ray fucks up in the story

RebelVampire

for your health and safety, as serverlord i ban this drinking game

mathtans

I like the subtle nice things in there too though, like when he's giving coins to those homeless people.

RebelVampire

no dying

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

meep

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

ray becomes the next angel with black wings due to how much fuck ups he do

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Thank you Rebel.

Livers are expensive.

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

should have a fuck up counter

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

you may ban it here but people can still play at home

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

LOLOLOL

RebelVampire

yeah i appreciated that subtle ray giving money to someone

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

That's what bothers me

DracoPlato

oh yeah i liked that

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

Ray can be super nice smetimes

and in others

RebelVampire

no my powers extend everywhere delta

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

he just "RAY STOP, AHHHHH"

DracoPlato

i think ray is accurate to someone his age tho

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I lose my shit

SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time

lies

RebelVampire

yeah ray does reek teen

so appropriate

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

Ray needs a therapist.

Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings

very teen

kabocha, baroness of sparkles

But yes, he is very much a 15-year-old boy.

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

so teen he manisfests teen

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

teen act like that in a way i think

mathtans

Next arc, Big Sis gets her psychologist degree...

Queen Brave Hikari of Memes

I think I used to be like Ray in some sort

Maybe that's why I can't hate him

OH NO, I RELATE TO RAY

Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear

crack theory: ray and big sis are the same soul and big sis was his past life

RebelVampire

Unfortunately, the scheduled Comic Tea Party is now complete~! Thank you everyone so much for joining this week’s chat~! That being said, if you would like to continue discussing the comic, we encourage you to do so~! We want to give a big thank you to Mharz, as well, for volunteering The Angel with Black Wings for our reading queue. If you liked the comic, please be sure to support Mharz’s efforts. If you have questions, concerns, or suggestions about CTP, please feel free to PM me, or e-mail me at rebelvampire@startfaire.com.

With that said, next week’s Comic Tea Party will focus on Chaotic Nation by Zyephen. Please use this week to read as much of the comic as you would like. Also, please note that this comic is more mature than previous comics. If this is something you may be sensitive to, it is advisable to bypass this week’s CTP. Hope to see you next Thursday (June 29th) from 5PM to 7PM PST~! Until then~! Comic: https://tapas.io/series/Chaotic-Nation