#i dont actually want greg to feel bad bc with him and rose it was mutual but hey!!
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forvirresky · 3 months ago
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Actually. Re the su post tags. I think pearl was holding it together rather well, really. Some seriously remarkable and commendable composure. We really only see a few instances of it slipping through, and it only turns into a true break in composure when someone presses her on it. If I were her I really dont think I could bear to see the guy that took my best and first and only (for a really long time) friend away from me. Yes it was roses decision, but greg was the catalyst that allowed it to happen at all. I think I would be really resentful, even if I didn't want to be. I certainly could never be the guys friend.
Dude and the implication of pearl possibly getting with a human????? (barring the possibility of the pink pearl that mightve had that subtext? Unsure. There was a fairly long stretch where pearl was shown getting a bunch of humans numbers. And the pink haired girl episode especially) she is never gonna be able to have that crazy lengthy history she had with rose with any human. They just don't live long enough. That's so little time in comparison. It would just be potential after potential after potential. A brief time of attachment and they're gone, and she'd still be there. Again!! It'd be rose over and over and over. I think I'd go bonkers!!!
Anyways su was ok and I'm not into it anymore but some of the character stuff has really stuck with me.
#watching its over isnt it over and over and when greg gets up and leaves feeling a sense of vindication.#like yes old man feel bad!!!! you ignored pearls feelings in favor of your own!!! ignored what she had to say!!!#and the episode has the audacity to end with the implication that “they both loved rose and they both miss her”#at much different intensities buddy!!!!!#i really just saw it as proof of how much she cares. whereas others took it as a peek into some hidden hatred.#come on!!!!#i dont actually want greg to feel bad bc with him and rose it was mutual but hey!!#he literally saw rose and pearl looking like they had a mutual thing too!!#and still went for it!!!#selfish jerk tbh!!!!#i dont hate him. but i really really did not like when he did that. and i wish the show pointed it out.#instead of the wishy washy ohhhh they both miss her theyre so alike actually#wrong. ok???#anyways my favs were pearl and peridot#peridot bc she was so methodical in her manner of figuring things out and taking things literally and fighting preconceptions#and bc she was smart#and pearl bc. guestures to the above. yeah. and bc she was kind and smart and caring.#everyone treated her snapping as a gotcha moment. a terrible personal quality hidden away. but i saw it as more of an enevitability.#and not a personal failing. a direct effect of outside forces pressing on a volatile subject. of course shes gonna flip out over that.#no one else seems to care anymore except her. they all got over it. why cant she? they let it go so fast.#its not a bad thing to love someone that much. frankly id be worried if someone wasnt destitute for ages after.#i took any snap as proof of how much she cared. whereas it seemed some people thought it revealed some hidden hatred.#she was clearly trying so so so hard to understand and be kind. and she did end up caring about steven and even greg in a way!#anyways thanks for coming to my ted talk.#the theme of devoting your life to somebody else...yeag 👍
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opalgelance · 5 years ago
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thoughts on steven universe future
td;lr overall opinion: steven universe future is better than most of the original steven universe, especially seasons 3-5, but there are still some real iffy plotlines in future
i hate that the diamonds were redeemed but at the same time, the happy clouds blue and yellow putting gems back together scenes were so pure
it simultaneously warms my heart and infuriates me 
but we finally got a blue diamond song, god i love her voice
EDIT: also steven basically tortured white diamond and nearly killed her and it was pretty disturbing bc steven is 1. in a really bad mental state, like way darker than i thought they’d show him go, since this is technically a kids show and 2. was also kind of trying to hurt himself, which both hit me really hard bc i had similar periods of blazing anger, wanting to self harm and harm others that i felt had wronged me when i was a teenager, but its also what white deserves
ncsndlljklkcndkls i want to enjoy this show so bad but,,, steven having ptsd makes him a violent douche??? diamonds killed who knows how many gems in their reign and never really felt bad about it in original su but now they’re supportive life coaches??? no thank you
on more positive notes, i loved how priyanka described mental health and how she treated steven throughout the entire check up, she was so nonconfrontational and whenever he felt stressed she deescalated the situation,,, it was so good
the animation is the best its been since season 2. the poses are clean, very well drawn, and on model. there are more action scenes than like 90% of steven universe and they’re animated way better, like theres actual fighting and motion asjksacbcbj no one is stiffly posed, no one has strange proportions, no one is drastically changing sizes in between shots (well besides steven in growing pains onward but when he does change size its supposed to be like that lol)
i liked seeing the real roses but didnt love it? i wish we saw more of the roses designs up close, and i wish they fit a little more with the other quartzes? it might be just because its era 3, but the roses were all way more unique than jaspers and amethysts generally seem to be. i like that they were more unique designs and had different personalities, but surely the diamonds wouldnt have tolerated that back in era 1 or even era 2, had the rose quartzes not been bubbled? also i get that they’re reminiscent of pink bc she created them, but hippie and superfan were so naive, more so than other quartzes. if each quartz group was slightly different, it would make a little more sense tbh like if quartzes were the entire gem army, but each group was slightly different. i always liked the idea that rose quartzes were either the defense or the healers of the gem army.
little homeschool and guidance were fun and genuinely enjoyable, considering not a whole ton happens in them. i wish townie episodes had been more like them. like you could replace the gems with random humans, but it would still be a fun episode? idk, maybe involving the humans in gem stuff wouldve made better townie episodes, like lars and the cool kids. it wouldve probably helped steven feel more “human” too, if the human and gem worlds collided a bit more in the series.
bluebird was... an ok episode, but im not sure how well it will fit into what i feel like the end will be, where every episode of future featured someone steven helped or affected in some way, and they all come together to help steven when he corrupts. or rather, i guess if bluebird did say something, it would feel more hollow bc steven didnt help them lol the gems and universes were just friendly to them, and thats it. it wasnt as bad as a very special episode (my least favorite episode of future), but it felt like a townie episode with no townies LOL at least we got a new fusion i guess
a very special episode was just,,, infuriating. there was that weird football scene where they just like,,, talk about screen resolution for a minute then play the full commercial for little homeworld we just saw last episode???? i did genuinely enjoy the rainbow scenes, but it just built up to not nothing. oh no, it was something alright. the whole episode was just future vision and then theres like a minute long psa??? it felt like that wacky randomness that would have happened in like, ok ko, teen titans go, or clarence jaskjcbkcjbskb
mr universe is tied with dear old dad episode as my least favorite greg episode. i get how both of them feel. greg wanted to tell steven about how he escaped from his miserable childhood and remade who he was, no longer a demayo but a universe. the problem imo was that greg became way too absorbed in the past. it reminds me a bit of s1 pearl, how she’d proudly recount gem battles and basked in the glory of fighting for their freedom, but she struggled when she had to recount the more unsavory parts of war. and that really affected amethyst, since she didnt fight in the glorified war pearl told her and steven about. amethyst was the byproduct of one of the bad parts of the war, and that became part of her identity, until on the run, where pearl finally realized that she needed to tell amethyst that she wasnt bad. amethyst’s creation may have fractionally hurt the earth, but that wasnt her fault. it wasnt her fault that she emerged too late to fight either. and it wasnt her fault that she existed. sounds familiar to to stevens rant in the van. 
steven didnt ask to be made. he didnt ask to be the half gem half human son of a diamond. but he grew up being told about how great his mom was, and that while no one would ever say it, she was gone because of him. to create steven, rose had to die. it was roses decision, but as the product of that decision, steven feels responsible. not only that, but being told constantly about his amazing mother, steven felt like he had to live up to her, had to be like her, had to replace her in the gems and greg’s lives. throughout the series, steven is constantly either trying to be like his mother, until he realizes its ok to be himself. but then the question is posed; is steven even himself? or is he still part of rose? and once he finds out that he’s steven, and has always been steven, he’s still reeling from the realization that his mother was pink diamond. and that really shows in future, where steven is becoming like pink. at first he doesnt even know, because besides the jungle moon dream, him and the audience never knew about this side of pink. this angry, short tempered, diamond who lashes out mostly physically. and unlike before, no one’s telling steven about pink (besides pink pearl) hes finding out firsthand, and this pink mode is basically being forced on him by his gem. steven has little to no control over this form. hes not trying to live up to his mother, or wondering if he is her, like before. now, he’s losing control to whatever programming is in his gem.
but back to mr universe. in the van, greg is going on and on about how lucky steven is, and how free steven is, but how can either of them compare their lives to each other? the similarities just arent there. steven is right, greg and pink were “raised” in very similar “households”. both had their wishes and desires suppressed by controlling, abusive parents. we know pink was abused mentally, verbally and physically (being physically dragged away from the screen by yellow in jungle moon, stevonnie being grabbed and thrown into the time out cell by yellow, when she still thought steven was pink), but greg at the very least was mentally assaulted. but they diverge from here. as greg said, he thought disco was back. rose started a war. you cant compare them any further. 
but at the same time, steven was raised completely differently. he was raised in a home with love and freedom, but he was also not given the opportunity to be a normal kid. theres a difference being forcing your kid to do something and not giving them the chance to try something. steven was never given the option to go to school (well in the comics he was but i guess thats not canon now since it seems like steven wishes he went to school?) he was never given the option to live in a house, or go to the mall with friends. the only other kids he knew were the boardwalk kids, but even then, he doesnt seem very close with them. for such an outgoing, friendly kid, steven wasnt given many opportunities to make friends. steven’s upbringing was very relaxed, yes, but it was too relaxed. he needed more structure, and more importantly, more humanity. i always thought it was weird, how little steven seems to have interacted with humans before connie, considering that his mother so desperately wanted steven to experience being human. yes the show is about gems, (and yes, i dont like most townie episodes), but steven was never shown doing a lot of “human” kid things inbetween episodes. the episode never started with him coming home from a friends house, he hardly ever spent time with friends other than connie in little scenes. like he was never called for a mission while playing cards with peedee, or coming home after an after school activity. any scenes like that were either just steven by himself, or with greg, and occasionally connie. but connie is a new addition to his life. how many years has he been doing fun stuff with only his dad for company, or by himself? yknow, “non traditional” childhoods and living situations are becoming more and more common in media, rather than the “two parents in a suburb house” thing, but steven’s life is beyond any unusual childhood any other kid would have. i mean he’s never even been to the doctor! which is probably for several reasons, like the fact that he apparently doesnt have a ssn, he can heal himself, has a damn gemstone in his stomach, and is half alien. but still, thats not something he has in common with other kids. no matter how much love and freedom he was given, steven was raised as an outcast.
i agree with the notion that both greg and steven were both right and wrong in mr universe. i guess they both have that in common with rose lol 
greg should have read the room better, realized that his pep talk wasnt the support and apology steven needed to hear. but steven shouldnt have acted out in the way he did. i get that’s the “theme” of steven’s spiral, maybe for the younger audience to better understand how steven is acting? but crashing his dad’s van that gregs been living in for like 20 years? fucking SHATTERING jasper? that’s going way too far to prove a point. it would have been better to maybe mirror story for steven, where marty and greg are arguing, marty is watching the road and they narrowly avoid hitting a car. but crashing the car could have been pretty serious, especially for greg. now jasper, that episode shouldnt have been approved. steven should not have shattered jasper. he fucking killed her. rose/pink didnt even shatter anyone. and if it wasnt for steven getting another superpower out of nowhere, jasper would have stayed that way. he should have just cracked her gem, poofing her in the process. the rest of the episode wouldve played out exactly the same.
anyways ive been writing this for like 2 hours but i feel better letting it all out. if you enjoy future keep enjoying it! it’s definitely more like a B+ compared to season 3-5′s general C-/D+. but please take into consideration future has some themes that people personally relate to, like mental health, and that you shouldnt shit on someone elses opinions that are based on their own personal experiences. especially if you dont have mental health issues, dont keep pushing your opinion and telling people that personally relate to future’s themes that they’re wrong? thats fucked up man
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kendrixtermina · 7 years ago
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Baby Reacts to the Latest Steven Bomb
SPOILERS
So apparently we’re getting the obligatory beakup/ couples-first-argument storyline
It seems to me that Steven’s optimism and rose tinged glasses are being adressed as a character flaw... and let me tell ya, it IS, or at least can be no matter how  much our current society worships “positivity”. A person who wants to pretend their problems dont exist isnt always inclined to see yours, even if they are otherwise a generous and nice person. 
my mother has this particular flaw and while i love her to bits (after all there are no perfect humans),this has at times very frustrating for my sisters and I.
and ohhh political unrest!
MODERN political unrest as in how it is changed by internets & stuff
there were certainly some analyzeable lines in there
who knew granny pizza gave such good speeches?
a lesser show would just have pulled a new character out of their sleeves instead of grabbing a random sensible cast member wth some leadership ability 
aww steven not everything is your fault
thats one way to end the episode...
ep 2
im not surprised that Lapis wants to bail after all she’s been through but i expected more of a reaction from peridot like wasn’t she resolved to protect the earth join the rebellion and stick it to the diamonds? 
i mean i was never among the ones who claimed she had been sillyfied but if this doesn’t get mentioned later imma be upset this was THE opportunity for conflict/character nteraction/ serious content here
Ohh OHH I take it all back I see where this is going
She does actually want to help the rebellion, but her “follower” tendencies wouldn’t completely go away because shes in a new situation and she may have been a tad overwhelme finding herself caring for someone who was recovering from so much punishment so she’s walking on eggshells around lapis now
Onions Onions lol
So they’re playing off the expectation that they’re this comey duo now but subverting it
In the end they did stay true to Peridot’s character here like of COURSE she wants to stay and fight everything weve seen from her so far would suggest it
aww poor bby the thing with ddoing the right thing is there’s not always a reward
Is that a sort of relationship deconstruction, conclusion? I may need to rewatch things & see if there was always a tedency for ‘Dot to accomodate Lapis perhaps by acting all silly, i mean they were abvle to have at least silly arguments in “the crsytal temps”
I emphasize with Peridot here I mean when you’re less affected and the other person went through something you couldn’t imagine and someone ~should~ be there to help them your own concerns start looking insignificant
Also she may feel some residual guilt for kind of dragging Lapis into this...
Then again having ‘Dot in the temple may mean more screentme especially as the Diamond’s arrival drawn nearer
Again the contrast here is interesting - Peridot is much weaker in terms of powers but has a personality suitable to fighting whereas Lapis for all her power is just plain terrified
So far the eps have been meaty enouh compared to the long stretch of calm-before-the-storm town episodes we’ve had but they haven’t even talked-over the big developements of the last bomb or the very promising trailer clips with Greg, Pearl and the others. 
Indeed, distinct lack of Garnet, Amethyst and Peal so far wouln’t they have something to say about the Lapis situation?
Though mybe that is meant to emphasize this arc of Steven taking all responsibility onto himself instead of going to them like he would have earlier - it isn’t just Lapis, he hasn’t talked to them about the Connie Situation either
ep 3
It’s Greg! That at least seems like a promising sign 
Texting feels
Aww even around Greg he’s this worried about effing everything up
I like the narration of the texts
Likefinally a show that instead of being “you kids with your trinkets” explores the emotional dimensions these things have become involved with
Aaand of course Greg notices * sigh * if only there were more dads like Greg in this world
And he doesn’t even push it, just “do you want to talk about it” Oh Greg you wondrous human
The house! Haven’t seen it in ages
So Greg probably mobilized the gems into cheering Steven up. They DO notice & care
lol Garnet
They try and its precious after what felt like long empty eps in which its just Steven and his thoughts, playing the “responsible” role
“a projection of the self compared to the intended delivery of the writers” lol Best joke in ages and i dont even like meta jokes that much
Ronaldo has never been so relatable
“Cool Ranch”
Steven is RLY feeling those angsty teenage years atm not too long ago he would have been super excited about this
Same observation as with Roses’ scraps I guess
And its painful because its a logical consequence of what he’s been through but on the other hand the wonder and appreciation were always what we loved about Steven?
Now he’s even dismissing extra info 
PD and everyone else’s past selves just drooping as the explanation is cut off tho
I guess he’s trying hard to be mature about it and accept it; Demanding xplanations would contain a morself of curiosity or accusation
But II wanted to here, stevieboy
Its rly heartbreaking how different hes acting from... “his usual self”? IDK man maybe its jut the adult-er version of him which is not what I’d want it to be but it could nonetheless be true
OHH and now it gets RLY RL again
The parenting conversations, Greg being all out of his depht and yet very much worried for Steven’s wellbeing
Pearl continues to have some particular hangup about the PD situation
Pearl as the most rooted in homeworld society is surely not helping, portraying it as a “not that bad “ question & still believing in some of the mysticoism of their society even if she’s rejected the beliefs themselves
Now we KNOW there’s a secret there
But alas, Steven was dealing with a way more humany-teenagery problem there...
Baby’s first breakup
Human Dad to the rescue!
Aand at long last ther’s some adressing of the whole thing in a holistic way that separating it into “gem stuff and human stuff” would not have accomplished
And off COURSE it was ronaldo
the best ep so far
aww family cuddles
lets hope that was an actual shooting star and not the incomming diamonds
ep 4
lol dat grungey morning sequence esp the minimalistic ear
And using the kitchen sink b/c Dot lives in the bathroom now
The Amethyst approach to music
Aaand of course Zuke couldn’t help piling on the breakup aesthetic even though the last ep was going a different direction?? IDK man
But Dotty listening to sad music when sad is very relatable and yet more proof that wre long lost soul sisters
Was she holed up in there during the vacation tho? I guess those conversations happened offscrean to preserve the feeling of isolation in Steven’s Pov
“Uuuugh...” DAT Face too too memetastic not to laugh 
I think I would ignore this if the knowledge of the backstage drama and agenda pushing didn’t leave a bad taste in my mouth 
And I mean look at that relatable overdramatic grean bean the whole sequence is weirdly perf
“Whats the poooint...”
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I felt compelled to admire this magnificence several times over
The unhelpful purple has now graduated to agressively tryng too hard purple 
I love how Amethyst wants to go revisit & reframe everything now that she’s gotten this different POv on it and feels better about herself
“You can make us feel dumb by telling us stuff we don’t know!” She knows Peridot well XD Such wholesome friendship
Dotty doesn’t even deny it
Gotta love Amethyst
Aww its that train from back then!
Even the musical allusion
“Very convenient Warp Pad”
My lil purple has come so far
So apparently “-”Dot” is canon now
Oh. OHHH
Right we saw that Dot was actually proud of her job but I guess this is also a reframing for HER something SHE now views differently. It used to be like the birds & bees for her, but now... 
Thank you , day saving flower
WH0000T I thought the plot had forgotten about Peridots “renewable energy” pland she mentioned to YD and how this could revolutionize the Gempire but it seems Dotty is going to DO SCIENCE again
You know shes down when not even the traktor RLy cheers her up
Steven & amethyst tho
This whole project holds a deep almost “spiritual” significance for all three of them when you think about it, a kind of purification
the shovel thing was so cute
Super soakers!
The Ame-Copter is back
Loving this ep
Stylish Garden flamingo
The hyping is already making me think it didn’t take; Dot was right that they should hve analyzed the flower first
Called it. 
Ohh... didnt see THAT coming tho
Its like a corrupted anglerfish
I wonder if that used to be an amethyst
Ohh its a surprise smokie ~<3
not an amethyst maybe but purplish enough to be another former resident
Of course it wasn’t going to work overnight nothing ever does
but hey, hugs~
and perhaps thats just the setup for an ongiong plot arch still this could have used more of a sciencey approach
ep 5
Well judging by the title sadie is prolly heartbroken too
She prolly is but shes holdig up well enough
And hey at least Steven seems to be feeling better
Perhaps hiring a new donut boy would not have been that bad of an idea
This is surprisingly real
The whole crappy american millenial job situation
Steven is... REALLY bad at this
Lets appreciate that Sadie had a surprisingly deep character arc just trickling there heding everyting away so her mom don’t hijack it, pining away after an asshat to an unhealthy degree until she eventually just stopped obsessing over it all and letting her own self shine?
Also nice treatise on the process of art
ep 6
Soo... Kevin’s back? That sounds... interesting... especially in the light of the whole breakup situation, he was usually Stevonnies designated rival but they`re unlikely to be in the ep
Is he gonna try to recruit Steven to dudebroism in his moment of weakness? That sounds interesting bc as much as pickup artists, MRM scum redpillers ETC are frightening evil, to stop them one has to understand how they spread and what they often do is prey on young men with low self esteem - young men who don’t feel very privileged, are desperatre unhappy youngsters etc so they make themselves sound reasonable at first (at least to those who dont recognize their sales pitch/ rhetoric) to exploint natural curiosity, skepticism and a tendency to support supressed truth to then feed a person all sort of bullshit untill they blame women for all their problem - actually racists and other hategroups are much the same
They offer group identity, recognition & confidence to those who dont have it - So when it comes to fighting them, “immunizing” young boys against their salespitches with information and knowledge is just as important as fighting its most malignant supporters if not more but that doesn’t rly get as much attention bc bashing obvious evil people is satisfying and people who have been hurt & traumatized and had real harm done to them may find it hard to sympathize with young men... clearly its not the victims who need to do the work but society and those who raise & educate boys at every step of the way if society could be arsed to care
Ehh I should probably stop ranting and watch the actual episode
Should you really be giving Kevil your number?
“my crush will be at the party” is such an old cliche so the question is how exactly theyll subvert it
Unknown faces all around, prolly the less friendly side of town god job at establising the uneasy ambiance
Is that a BREAKUP HAIRCUT?
Ohhh the music slowing down the background fading away
So steven is one of those ppl who just keeps texting the void and connie is one of those pp who don’t
And I’ve been in this situation and im with connie here like if the relationship is not working because of legitimate reasons, are those reasons going to go away just because you cave and text the person back? Why would anyone keep texting like the problems will magically go away, or text back, what could the result be other than causing you both more pain
Like I understand it ttheoretically in a “humans process feelings differently” kind of way and im not bashing on Steven here but ill never understand-understand it
Conclusion: again this show gets real 
Kevin is such a platonical ideal of an asshat, you almost gotta admire the purity of his asshattery
Case in point he cannot understand the friendship component
Meanwhile of course conny has been having her own private freakout
And they didnt go the cliched angle of forcing the fusion right then & there
So I suppose this made sense as a miniarc and had some pretty real moments & necessary explorations though I do want to get back to the plot now
Soo lets see whom the fandom has decided to hate and distort THIS time...
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