#i don't like my portrayal being looked at like it's law or absolute canon because it isn't

[dnangelic]

hi. this might sound very funny given the muse but try not to steal from me. i know i talk a lot about my portrayal if not the series itself all the time, and i'm happy to always try to share canon resources/material while being more than welcoming of dupes, (i still love them very much,) but many, many, many of my metas, even the ones that might seem like 'base canon,' are usually still laced with my personal interpretations or outright headcanons that i'm not comfortable with being overly plagiarized, at least especially without being asked or spoken to. (it's also because my hcs are sprinkled in so much that i like to think i can tell.) muses should bear their own integrity and be able to stand on their own as their own characterization. some overlap is inevitable when multiple people are writing the same character, but it just gets weird when, as soon as one person writes or talks about something, it seems to show up immediately in another person's portrayal when it wasn't there before. don't use me as an interpretation resource outside of learning about my own specific portrayal for rp; read canon and come to your own conclusions.

[sw4tch]

Petty rambles. Yandere tropes talk.

NOT THE YANDERE WRITER GETTING TO PUBLISH A BOOK HNHGGHH i am being a petty BITCH but why do good things happen to people that Annoy me

Ok SO

THERE'S THIS ONE WRITER IN THIS ONE FANDOM THAT WRITES ~yandere!character x you imagines~ and since the moment they crossed My Dash i have sworn a Hatred for them Till death Do Us Apart

(Snaily what in the ever loving fuck, i hear you say, i thought you were live and let live)

i hear u loud and clear but to be fair, and extremely balanced, i met them when they wrote an actually pretty cute scenario of my fave characters, only to then publish these imagines non stop on the request of other users

And so i felt Betrayed (or like, super annoyed bcus in my mind i went THEY WOULD NOT FUCKING DO THAT when reading these imagines)

Because. Look.

These characters are mentally ill in canon and they are actually?? Good rep??? Only for someone to turn around and go "Let's turn them into yandere tropes that DO NOT FIT THEM only bcus i don't understand the stigmatization of this mental illness" and like

Here's the thing

I don't hate yanderes. U know? I don't. In fact i would welcome this type of scenario in any other context because i fucking love Edgy scenarios, i never left my 14yo mentality when it comes to Edgy Bloody And Messed Up media (the mentality being WELCOME TO MY TWISTED MIND *GUITAR RIFT*)

But usually, yandere-aus of characters are done for characters that aren't u know, actually mentally ill in their og media. Or they aren't meant to be actual representation of the struggles of mentally ill people.

So when someone random on the internet does "yandere" aus of them u go "oh ok this is just your romantic horror ideas being projected onto a random character, this is basically an oc committing identity theft, go ahead with your creativity i guess"

But THESE CHARACTERS. Already struggle in their canon/irl with people stigmatizing their mental illness and then u go and write them??? Being the usual portrayal of "OoooOOOoOOh mentally ill people are CRAZEYYYYYyyyy"???? Like. There's no other way to say it but it's INSULTING.

Anyway.

My other beef with them, and more reasons why this person has peeved me, is that their "yandere" scenarios???

AREN'T. EVEN. GOOD. YANDERE SCENARIOS.

like.

They just write the y/n as being eternally kidnapped by the characters but the characters are like. Super nice? Literally the exact same characters BUT they have kidnapped the self insert. They. They're basically just NOT bad people, never being super violent or anything, they're not overtly obsessed, no, they just kidnapped y/n and they take care of them now i guess.

Like.

What the fuck? Just do a KIDNAPPER au instead i fuckin guess. WHERE'S THE FUCKIN FLAVOR. THE OBSESSIVENESS, THE "I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT YOU"S, THE "I AM CUTTING YOUR LIMBS SO U CANT RUN FROM ME", THE UNHINGED ADORATION THAT IS SCARY. where is the VIOLATION OF AUTONOMY. THE STALKING. THE BLOOD. like GOD. The yandere is about the HORROR of LOVE, and a million of badly cooked ideas of what people think mentally ill COUGHS bpd people do when we fall in love.

Anyway my point is.

The yandere is for the HORROR girlies only. It's less about romance and more about a story from r/letsnevermeet. It's for horror. And because it's for horror OF COURSE it is also about love. But only AFTER you've seen it through the horror lens.

Anyway. This person comes and writes this, gives it the title "yandere!character" and u realize wait a minute.

Are. Are you writing them as yanderes because you think their mental illness makes them yanderes automatically???????????

The absolute FUCKING disrespect.

Anyway.

They just went and announced ~ohhh I'm publishing a hard book cover!! So exciting~ and I'm like

GOD. FUCKING. DAMNIT. HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THE LAWS OF THIS LAND I WOULD HAVE ALREADY ENDED UR REIGN OF TERROR.

sigh. basically why does this person that obviously is careless with their writing gets to publish their work like, physically, when i have to look at my dream of writing novels with deep themes as something impossible and distant.

Truly, what i feel is envy bcus It Should Be Me.

Ah petty petty humanity. Never changing.

And like. I am ASSUMING i would be better than them you know??? But clearly i'm not because they're the ones getting users constantly asking to write them scenarios, and i get 0 comments on my updated fic. (That shit hurt ngl homies. That shit hurt. 6k words and for what? Nada.)

So.

What's the lesson in this?

Nothing i guess. We learn that i am petty, that i love horror, that i maintain my thesis of the yandere being cathartic to bpd horror enthusiasts like me, and uhhhh and maybe that if i am a fail cringe author, maybe i too can make it.

Bcus if this person CAN publish their book? Why the fuck couldn't a lame ass writer like me do it too u know? Worse people than me have done it, and by god i will not be left in the dust by people publishing their abusive harry styles fanfiction from fucking wattpad.

In conclusion: FOLLOW UR DREAMS. Also don't hate-follow people, this is my lesson here, i am BLOCKING them for my own mental health.

[aegor-bamfsteel]

Yo man, I hear that the Blackfyres and their supporters were Conservative, sexist, brutish usurpers who couldn't stand to see a feminist king on the throne but here you are, an honest to God bra burning, women's lit thumping feminist unironically supporting the Black Dragon. In this entire fandom you're the only person I've found openly supporting them. If you don't mind me asking, why do you like them so much?

Hey dude, you’re asking me to talk about sexism, fandom hypocrisy, and my Blackfyre love in an inflammatory way that could result in getting me in trouble with the fandom? I probably shouldn’t be answering this, but ok. This has been sitting in my inbox for a week, and let no one say that I leave any ask unanswered. Wankery found under the cut:

Eyy dude, what if I told you that the perception of Blackfyres as sexist, brutish usurpers in fandom is largely due to some prominent people’s intellectual elitism and projection of neoliberal political views? Aspects of GRRM’s writing like the unreliable narrator, villains-are-heroes-from-another-side, and history is written by the “victors” are given no credibility in favor of condemning the Blackfyre supporters as racist, sexist, and ableist (?) in fandom. I’m extremely annoyed that no one seems to be asking the sort of questions or making the sort of connections that I have due to this blanket ban on Blackfyre sympathy. I’ve answered your broader question on why I supported the Blackfyres in an earlier ask (they were more honorable, less absolutist and cruel than the Targaryens, even demonstrated some meritocracy, and most died horrifically) so I will try to answer based on the sexism angle: How come I like the Blackfyres so much and support woman’s liberation at the same time?

First of all, you come into my askbox and tell me that Daeron II was a feminist king? Nah bro. A real male feminist ally in a position of power would’ve passed laws to ensure his father’s predatory behavior would be banned. He would’ve been trying to apologize for the way he and his father treated the Bracken sisters and actively sought to make amends instead of making the situation worse. He could’ve given widows a pension or granted certain protections to mothers with illegitimate children. He could’ve opened up exit shelters for prostituted women wanting to learn a trade, as Empress Theodora did back in sixth century AD Byzantium. Why does fandom think he is so Feminist™ when he did so little for women? Are they referring to him having Princess Elaena as an unofficial advisor while her husband Ronnel Penrose was Master of Coin, a man who could barely string two numbers together? (Which really undermines the claim that Daeron was a reformer who chose wise men as councilors, since he selected an incompetent based on his own family status) Might I remind everyone that Daeron arranged Elaena’s second marriage in the first place, a woman 3 years his elder who had been locked in prison for 11 years by her brother, bore illegitimate twins by her cousin, forced to wed an old man by her uncle/Aegon, and may have been forced into sleeping with the horrific Aegon IV? You’d think after enduring so much at the hands of her male relatives, the Kind™ Daeron would’ve backed off, but she has to pay for his son Aerys’ failed marriage by sacrificing her hard-won independence. How feminist. But I guess it’s OK, because after Ronnel died Daeron generously gave his blessing when she wed someone she truly loved! I can’t imagine she felt much affection for this entitled shit. But maybe the Great Fandom Minds™ are referring to how Daeron treated his wife Myriah, who is a blank slate in terms of personality and political actions? I can’t even think of any other names of women Daeron might’ve canonically “empowered”, so how exactly is he a feminist? And why does thinking he was a self-serving politician who treated all of his family members except his sons like expendable trash make me sexist? Do tell, Fandom Minds who know so much more than I.

By contrast, how does liking Daemon Blackfyre and thinking he’d be a better king than Daeron make one sexist? Eustace Osgrey said that he hung out with warriors rather than septons and women, but GRRM himself said that Daemon did have female followers (some we know even participated in the Second Blackfyre Rebellion, like Ladies Vyrwell and Smallwood. Not to mention the cause owes its continued strength after Redgrass to Queen Rohanne) who were “drawn to him.” There’s the rumors that Daemon thought that he could marry Princess Daenerys and Rohanne of Tyrosh, but even the biased Maester Yandel said that claim only developed long after the wedding from a few Blackfyre supporters, which is a few steps removed from the original source. I believe that version of the story was an attempt by the Westerosi Blackfyre supporters to acknowledge Rohanne of Tyrosh’s invaluable contributions to the cause of the exiles while still maintaining the romanticism of a Daemon/Daenerys forbidden romance. It absolutely blows my mind that Daemon gets more flak for what he might have said at fourteen than Daeron does for helping a teenaged girl and her two-week-old son get banished for something her father said. Because Daeron is called “the Good” and thus incapable of doing wrong, obviously.

But outrageously, the fandom has to headcanon abusive behavior on Daemon to make him look like a villain. Seriously, I’ve heard people claim he was an abusive father to Daemon II, cheated on or never loved Rohanne, would have killed his nephews, and tried to rape Princess Daenerys based on no canonical evidence (in fact, the evidence goes against the honorable father of at least nine presented in canon). Even a Daemon-hater like Yandel had to concede that Daemon’s love was for the mother of his children to whom he was married for 12 years. Daemon died protecting his son Aegon from the Raven’s Teeth arrows; he’d never hurt his children. As for the children of others, his faction during the First Blackfyre did not kill children (in fact, Quentyn Ball spared Lady Penrose’s youngest son, some say on Daemon’s orders), especially not those too young to fight. The fandom’s portrayal of Daemon as a vicious monster really serves to emphasize how little evidence they have that Daeron II was a truly good person; the man with grudges against two of his father’s underaged rape victims isn’t a hero, so they have to make his rival an even bigger villain despite it being complete nonsense in canon? Can I have at least a balanced depiction of a Daemon who loved his wife and kids, even if they do think he was an ambitious reactionary?

An especially infuriating piece of fandom hypocrisy is that to make Daemon sexist, they have to demonize or erase all of the female influence in his life. Example one is that for his first 12 years, he was raised as the son of Daena the Defiant, who GRRM said in an SSM raised him alone in the Red Keep. Some people in fandom claim she was an ambitious woman who wanted a son so she could be Aegon’s Queen over Naerys, which is a claim so insulting in its wrongness (Daena could’ve been Queen in her own right, having an illegitimate son actually hurt her chances of queenship and a stable future, she referred to Daemon as hers alone so she never wanted to acknowledge his father, she never agreed to wed a man after Baelor, etc) I’m shocked the people who make it can call themselves feminists with a straight face. Others are kinder toward the Daena-Daemon relationship, saying that Daena must’ve died before Daemon was four so she couldn’t pass on her ideals of honor and self-sacrifice for one’s children; this completely ignores what GRRM said about Daena “raising” Daemon alone, meaning he knew her well enough to remember her. Both these ideas about Daena either demonize one of the most beautiful mother-son pairs in Targaryen history (she loved that kid so much she put him ahead of her own reputation and chance at being Queen. I cry.) or they take away her influence in order to claim that Daemon had no female role models growing up. A mother like Daena, strong-willed, independent, a sportswoman, would’ve doubtless have shaped Daemon’s opinions on women, and especially on mothers of bastards. He may have grown up knowing a woman didn’t necessarily need a husband to be happy, that she could shoot and ride as well as a man, and that a princess could with smallfolk and minor nobles on her own. She was far away from a submissive woman and was Daemon’s sole parent until he was 12, and you mean to tell me her son was a raging misogynist? Nope, I don’t buy it.

Fandom also erases Daemon’s other important female figure: Rohanne of Tyrosh. Elite Tyroshi women are most similar to elite Dornishwomen out of all the ladies of Westeros; I say this because the Archon’s daughter was to serve as a cupbearer for Prince Doran without having been betrothed to Quentyn, indicating that they are valued as political actors for their families outside of marriage alliances. Tyrosh is a mercantile society where the elites don’t like to fight, which traditionally equalizes roles between the sexes. Rohanne was the reason the Blackfyre cause survived for so long; she didn’t need help from Bittersteel escaping to her own fucking country, rather the landless Blackfyre supporters needed her protection after they lost everything at Redgrass. Without her giving them a stable base of operations (and certainly using her dowry to pay for their accommodations), they wouldn’t have been cohesive enough for Aegor to create the Golden Company. I realize that Rohanne has very little canonical characterization, but neither do Princess Daenerys and Myriah Martell, and that doesn’t stop Fandom from writing fanfics and meta on these two while ignoring Rohanne. On a similar note, prominent meta writers claim that the Blackfyre cause is obviously based on the Jacobites (no, Daemon Blackfyre was based in part on James Scott the Duke of Monmouth, who was staunchly anti-Jacobite. Just because these writers don’t know about British history in depth doesn’t mean that they can make spurious claims), and use this comparison to make headcanons for how the Blackfyre court in exile operated. For some Unfathomable reason, these headcanons never include the invaluable contributions that the female Stuarts made to the cause; Queen Mary and Princess Louisa were much more popular than the charmless James II and the drunken womanizer Charles III, having great relations with the French court and funding the education of the daughters of Jacobite exiles (it was said that even Queen Anne wept when Princess Louisa died, for she had hoped to wed her son to him). For a fandom who loves to make headcanons about minor female asoiaf characters, and loves to show off its (rather one-dimensional) knowledge of history, I see no such fics and metas for the female Blackfyres. I guess Feminism™ can’t be wasted on the wives and daughters of “traitors.” Just ask Sansa Stark.

To conclude, Daeron II was not a feminist king who raised the status of women in Westeros; in fact, he used his power as prince and king to banish Barba Bracken and wed Princess Elaena off to an ally. Daemon Blackfyre was raised by a strong single mother and was successfully married to an older foreign woman, and enjoyed female support for his cause, so calling him a misogynist seems like a leap to me. I’d make the argument that it’s Fandom with the misogyny problem, as they ignore the suffering, contributions, and characterization of female characters they don’t like in order to prop up a “sexism” narrative that contradicts canon. Just because other people bleat about how sexist, racist, and ableist Blackfyre supporters like me are, it doesn’t mean it’s true.