#i didn't actually watch the kenobi show but this just seems so much better

[tangents-within-tangents]

It's so crazy to think that this could have been canon

That Cody could have been there! Like real acknowledgment of this amazing character and where he ended up. And that he would still be there taking care of his general after everything (even when he's a depressed desert hobo)

We were so ROBBED what the heck!

Cody deserves this, and you know who else? Temuera Morrison!

Happy 2nd anniversary to the Codywan fandom 🥲

No, I'm never letting this go especially after Cody went AWOL in season 2 of The Bad Batch only never to return

[burnwater13]

Din Djarin, without his helmet on, holding Grogu, on board Moff Gideon's ship. Image from The Mandalorian, Season 2, Episode 8, The Rescue. Calendar by DateWorks. Din Djarin played by Pedro Pascal.

Grogu knew nothing about the standards of human beauty. Were deep brown eyes better than any other color? What about that serious look? It definitely wasn’t a smile, but it wasn't a frown either? Did other humans like that? Grogu studied that face and decided that the thing he liked the most about it, other than the fact that their eye color matched, was the nose. The Mandalorian’s nose was magnificent. 

Grogu had a teeny, tiny little nose. It was effective, but it didn’t really do much for his face. His face was all eyes, ears, and cheeks according to Peli Motto. The Mandalorian’s face was all about that nose and if Grogu could use the Force to make his own nose look more like it, well, if no one told Master Yoda's Force ghost, he'd definitely give it a try.

Plus, the Mandalorian had those whiskers. They were pretty great too. Grogu knew that technically he was older than the Mandalorian, but try as he might, he seemed incapable of growing even the most rudimentary mustache. He had no doubt that a beard, even the scruffy, sparse, ‘I should have shaved yesterday’ sort of beard that outlined the Mandalorian’s chin and jawline, was beyond his own ability to cultivate. There were just no hairs on his chin at all. Dank Farrik.

Grogu had long suspected that the bounty hunter had something like a beard on his face, even though he wouldn’t have described this kind of beard if asked. There were times that he could hear the faintest sound of the hairs scratching the interior of Din Djarin’s helmet and knew it had to be something other than his skin. He only knew that because he had seen the Mandalorian’s skin a couple of times. 

First when the bounty hunter cut his arm during a fight, but he wouldn't let Grogu heal him. Then again when they were eating together and the Mandalorian actually lifted his helmet a little to take a sip broth or a tiny bite of a ration pack bar. That was some pale, non-scaly, non-feathered, non-anything else skin and was exactly what Grogu expected from a human. 

Since a lot of humans Grogu had met seemed to be found of some sort of facial adornment, whether it was just not recently shaved whiskers or a beard or a mustache or a beard and a mustache, he’d worked out that the Mandalorian must take off his helmet and periodically shave that stuff from his face. As Grogu looked at him, he realized that Din Djarin must have been doing the same thing with the hair on his head too. 

Now that was a place where the two of them were more similar but still not the same. Grogu had lots of fine white hair covering his head and the backs of his ears. It wasn't long enough to pull into a Jedi Padawan braid yet, but he had his hopes that it would be, one day. Maybe that was something the other Jedi could help him with? That would be nice, but Grogu wasn’t going to hold his breath. He had asked Master Yoda that question more than once and never got a satisfactory answer. Something about it would happen when it happened. Uff.

Of course what Grogu really appreciated was that the Mandalorian had trusted him enough to show him what he looked like. It was like he wanted to make sure that Grogu wouldn’t forget him. It was a very sweet sentiment, but there was no way that Grogu would ever forget that voice, those mannerisms, that bravery, that commitment to the bit. Nope. Grogu was going to remember the Mandalorian forever, just like all of the other people he had ever met.

He didn't know why he remembered so many people he met. Maybe it was just a thing the members of his species did? It was like watching a vid. He could just think of them and see them in his mind. Or was he seeing them through the Force? That was possible. Kelleran Beq was so tall and fierce. Obi-Wan Kenobi’s voice had a soft cadence that no other Jedi Master ever exhibited. Ian had a way of choosing words and actions that made him unforgettable. Even if the Mandalorian got brand new armor or painted it or changed his helmet, or got a different side arm or finally got a new pair of boots, Grogu would know him just by the way he walked into a room. The Mandalorian was the most purposeful person Grogu had ever met, next to Ian. 

Grogu had wondered when they first met if maybe the person under the armor was his old friend, playing a trick on him, but he realized that Ian had never learned not to be a chatter box. The Mandalorian was pretty quiet unless the topic was armor polish and then you couldn’t stop him from talking unless you managed to get a word in edgewise and tell him you had accidentally dropped the small can in the privy. That produced some initial chatter about how, and when, and why, but it always resulted in the retrieval of the object and no he didn't need Grogu’s help. 

Maybe that's why he took the helmet off? He wanted Grogu to see that he cared more about him than the Creed? He always said a Mandalorian was required by Creed to maintain his weapons and armor in tip top condition. By removing his helmet he was telling Grogu that seeing him without the armor interfering was more important to him that following the Mandalorian rules. Wow. That was pretty special. 

Grogu coo'd at him and hoped that Din Djarin understood him. It was pretty hard to convey in just a simple sound that they were connected by the Force and that would never change. Grogu would be able to find the Mandalorian no matter where he went or what he was doing. When the Force told you that another person was important to you, you listened to it. It was never wrong… except for letting Din Djarin cover up that handsome nose and the face that wore it. That was not the Way.

[foxxxtransformer123]

Ya'll, I think I need to tell you how I got into Rebel's because it's just a random series of coincidences that I never expected to lead here.

So, I was a casual Star Wars fan. I watched all the movies, and I went to the sequels in theaters. I saw Rouge One and Solo in theaters, too, because Star Wars is cool. I didn't even know there was animated stuff until I started watching The Mandolorian with my dad because it looked like it might be a good time. It was. I loved it. I watched The Book of Boba Fett (that was disappointing). I went and watched the Obi-Wan Kenobi show (that was ok). It was all just causel watching. I tried to watch The Clone Wars show, but life got busy, I had too much going on. I only made it to like Season 3.

Then I saw that The Mandolorian was getting a 3rd season. I watched that shit the day it came out, waiting every week to watch it. (It was disappointing).

Then... episode 5 happened. It was like 2 Am. on a Thursday morning, and I was prepared for another mediocre episode to sit through.

Then... he walked on screen.

Some random purple creature I had never seen before just wandered on screen, started talking, and I swear my brain blue screened. He seems important. Am I supposed to know who he is? Doesn't matter! He exists, and that's making my brain happy for some reason!

I watched Tumblr have a meltdown over him.

Oh, so he is important. He's from Rebel's. I've never heard of it.

Ooh, he's getting shipped with someone. It's a gay ship! Hell yeah!

Oh, Rebel's is a sequel series to Clone Wars. Guess I better finish that then.

So I did. (I think a piece of my heart died, thanks, Filoni)

Finally! Now I can get context for who this Zeb guy is who has been occupying my brain for the last 3 weeks after like a minute of screen time!

ASDFFGHHJKKLR A AELKKJNNNKK

I LOVE HIM! I LOVE ALL OF THEM! SEND HELP, IM FIXATING AGAIN.

Oh, never mind, too late.

(WAIT, HE'S GAY?!)

KALLUZEB FOR LIFE

I've since rewatched episode 5 of the Mandolorian, now with context.

(Hi Zeb, I love you, but... Where's your husband?)

I've now watched every show except for the 2003 Clone Wars and have seen every movie except for the animated one that goes with Clone Wars.

Thanks, Filoni. You changed my damn life and got me to start actually writing my stories down and getting the confidence to post them.

[aslanscompass]

Ahsoka 1.1 & 1.2

As a side note, my tags for the show will be "sw: Ahsoka" and "ahsoka spoilers." I will also use the "Ahsoka" tag for general references to the character, as well as the character tags for the Rebels characters.

So, onto the actual review:

I've been hesitant about this show from the beginning, mostly because the promotion is so heavily weighted in favor of Ahsoka. I've watched all of The Clone Wars and read some of the tie-in novels as well, but I never really latched onto Ahsoka as much as some of the others. I mean, I don't hate her or think she's overpowered; I just prefer the Ghost crew. I've been waiting for Ezra's return since the season 4 finale. And I don't want Ahsoka to overshadow it.

On a purely practical/effects level, it is /so weird/ to see the familiar characters in live-action. Some shoots are identical to the original--the speeder route outside Lothal's capitol, the communication tower, and that mural.... On the other hand, the characters just feel off. Previous complaints about Ahsoka's appearance in The Mandalorian seem even more relevant here, as Hera's lekku and skin marking look rather too smooth for live-action. Maybe it's just the long hair, but Sabine doesn't look right either (NOTHING against the actors involved) She does look slightly better after the haircut, but I have so much trouble with age for all the leads. It's so hard to tell what age they're supposed to be.

Don't have any feelings one way or another about Houyung, but I would have loved to get even a glimpse of Jacen. I mean, sure, I have Feelings! about how he was included, but now that he exists, he needs to have screen time.

The Ahsoka-training-Sabine element kind of strikes me the wrong way too. I mean, sure, things would have happened between the battle of Lothal and the 'present day,' whatever that actually is. But I don't think Sabine is a good choice for Jedi training and I actually don't WANT her to have Jedi training. I think her style as a Mandalorian is interesting, a contrast from other rebels, and an important part of her heritage. She doesn't /have/ to be a Jedi to be special, or even to be on the right side.

The fight sequences felt wrong too. I mean Ahsoka's fights were okay, but I don't think Sabine got to show enough credit or skill in her fights. Sure, her preferred weapon in Rebels was explosive paint, but she did her fair share of hand-to-hand, and was pretty good at it. When she got grabbed at the tower, she didn't show any evidence of her formal skill or training.

Plotwise.... eh, too early to say. But the emphasis on Thrawn as a potential threat to the New Republic as opposed to the promise of finding an old friend.... and this is part of the reason I'm skeptical about bringing the Ghost crew into the broader universe. I mean, of course, Kanan and Ezra had to be out of the picture for the original timeline, otherwise Kenobi wouldn't be the only remaining Jedi, but now.... you can't retcon Ezra or Kanan into the film, because they would have had an impact, but I don't want to draw attention to that fact. In my imagination, Kanan and Ezra are both still alive, hanging around and playing games in some remote corner of the galaxy.

I guess we'll see

[thornetabris]

hi! okay so i just finished ahsoka, LOVED it (mostly bc all of it was completely female led which you don’t see often these days). i loved ahsoka, sabine, shin, baylan and thrawn particularly. i’m a major wolfwren shipper lol.

okay but here’s the thing; watching ahsoka has made me want to consume more star wars media. before ahsoka, i only watched the sequels and the other movies before when i was like 12. soo i have no idea where to start.

i believe beginning with star wars the clone wars would make sense, but do i need to rewatch the prequel films in order to understand the clone wars (i basically remember nothing from the prequel movies) or can i jump right into it? and after that there’s all these disney plus shows, like the mandalorian which doesn’t seem connected to the movies as far as i can tell - and then there’s star wars rebels! idk, i guess i’m asking if you could give me any advice on where to start and follow on from there? pretty please???

sure!!! im just going to give you where I, personally, would advice on beginning. so I'd say to look around with some other blogs aswell!

disney+ has a chronological list set up if you want to watch everything as a marathon of some sorts. I'd say now is a good time for a marathon too – the next tv show is only coming out in 01/24/24, so you'll have plenty of time to catch up on everything.

there's also the infamous Machete Order, which takes off tv shows and focuses solely on the movies. I wouldn't personally go this route if you wanna really get into star wars as a whole, but if you just want to be up to date, it's a good place to start too – a bit confusing, maybe. They flip the order quite a bit to make it all flow better as a narrative; the prequels are, actually, just an elongated flashback.

Here's how it goes: a new hope, the empire strikes back, the phantom menace, attack of the clones, revenge of the sith, return of the jedi, the force awakens, the last jedi AND the rise of skywalker.

If you don't want to go Machete but per release, it's just the Original Trilogy, The Prequels, The Clone Wars cartoon and then The Sequels. It's very confusing though. I only do it like this if I'm watching it with someone I know has no knowledge whatsoever of the franchise, Vader's identity… all the nice little retcons disguised as plot twists.

Now, if the person does know about it all, which I think you do by the question, I'd say just go chronological order as it's put into the disney+ list. if you just wanna watch the movies first, it's prequels, original and then sequels. I'm gonna write the list with the tv shows sprinkled into it:

Phantom Menace, Attack of The Clones, The Clone Wars, Revenge of The Sith, The Bad Batch, Solo, Obi Wan Kenobi, Rebels, Andor, Rogue One, A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, The Mandalorian s1-2, The Book of Boba Fett, The Mandalorian s3, Ahsoka, Resistance, The Force Awakens, The Last Jedi aaaaaand The Rise of Skywalker.

Oof! big chunk. Adventures of Young Jedis is a fun little cartoon that before everything, but it's very much targeted towards children beneath, say, 11 years old. But still fun to watch if you want to. Visions are independent and non-chronological episodes, so you don't need to include it if you don't want to. I recommend it tho. They're very well done. Tales of the Jedi are also non-chronological, but they follow and study characters such as Ahsoka, Dookan, Qui-Gonn. I highly recommend watching it after the prequels, but again, they are not necessary per se to understand the scope as a whole. Resistance is… Resistance. I didn't enjoy it as much i wished i could (i love the rebels, i love everything about them as a storyline), but they do provide some much needed information that bridges the original trilogy and the sequels.

Now. The Clone Wars. TCW has their fair amount of filler episodes, and it is a seven seasons big chunk. It also was not released with episodes as chronological, so you'd have episodes that released first but were placed before in the timeline. so no judgement if you decide to go Machete on it. Here's a list to the episodes that contains all the most important arcs in it:

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2023/07/the-essential-clone-wars-episodes-every-star-wars-fan-should-watch/

I think. I think that's it!! Hope this helps you anon. I'm always here if you want to!!

[bearpillowmonster]

Andor

Finally got around to watching Andor and it's like, you see these normal everyday things that aren't necessarily in the rulebook NOT to appear in Star Wars but just weird first inclusions. Like cereal, it looks like they took Trix and put in a retro styled canister. Tags on the blasters. Mon Mothma is...a mom with family drama? I mean it all makes sense but just unwritten, surreal to see real. We see more of these people's home life than anybody else in the franchise. Even the Thrawn trilogy had that little bit of Earth with Lando's Hot Chocolate but Andor does it all the time, too much, too fast.

Much like Solo, nobody really asked for an Andor series but I thought of potential ways they could go about it, there's just...ok, if Cassian is a master of disguise, I'd like to see him do different things but he's just an Imperial Officer again. Ok, so it could work if he does this regularly in order to smuggle whatever it is in and out, gives him experience with the knowledge we have of Rogue One but it's not like that either, it's just- "I did this once before." Ok, maybe he has knowledge from a prison? There is a prison but he apparently already knew all this by that point. We have nothing to base it on.

We should've seen the prison earlier and then that could explain a heck of a lot more in terms of motivation and fear. Even then, I understand the reason him being arrested is kind of to show the iron grip of the empire but wouldn't it have been more satisfying if Andor was set up as the sacrifice for that mission in the name of the "rebellion", then it would make sense for him to come out and do what he does and have everyone hunt him. Or maybe he gets in the way of the rebellion, making Rogue One his one true act, I don't know but to me it just makes more sense to do it any other way.

A search for his sister sounds like a good premise at the beginning but it goes on and on and it doesn't seem to go anywhere. It correlates with these flashbacks that they abandon soon after. I know someone is going to point out "Oh, that's because he gave up on that quest, because of that line that Maarva says." but that's just nulling the plot (almost like leading you to believe that Rey is a somebody to say that she's a nobody to reveal that she's a somebody again) even the director was like "Yeah, I'm not really concerned with exploring that for S2 either." And it banks on that S2 happening even after the rocky road this one apparently went on. It's split into sections, here's the escape arc, here's the rebellion arc, here's the prison arc so the story is a little all over the place. One thing didn't necessarily lead to another, they can be their own contained things.

And oh? Someone instills the disguise thing into him? So is it like a shapeshifting clawdite? Nope, just a human with a wig sometimes. I know this is going to sound funky because I've complained about the overabundance of creatures given attention in the latest Star Wars material but there's an underwhelming lack in this one, like very few actual aliens. And it's the longest live action Star Wars series thus far, which is fine, we've kind of wanted more episodes with something but I can't help but feel-

Ok, so everybody said that Kenobi should've been a movie. Cool, fine, dandy, it was originally written as one and it was stretched out to meet Disney+ subscriptions then a fan re-edited it to fit that format and the fanbase loved it, he even changed some design choices that fans didn't like and I even hear that Disney approached him to come work for them. Happy Ending. But with this series, it can be boring, a lot can be cut and I get that it's meant to be a character piece but I feel it'd be so much better that since we see the perspective of a certain villain that maybe we should've just seen his failures and then him lead up to this big bad towards the end after Cassian has taken everything away from him rather than a bunch of scenes with his MOTHER and doing whatever else. Let me see him be pitiful and unsure but don't show me him wallowing in that way. I just can't help but feel this could've benefited from being a movie too AS MUCH AS I'D HATE TO SAY IT because it certainly didn't need to be a movie (as I mentioned) but it might just fit that format easier for someone like me. So if you're not a fan of the Senate scenes in the prequels then stand down because this is going to be flat. I didn't have trouble watching the slow burn of Dune or Avatar but this, I did and I took it relatively weekly as if it was airing. All that time with the nerdy Empire guy and I can't even remember his name...that's bad. And that goes the same for a lot of the other characters that I forgot their names already because they don't really use them or weren't relevant enough to warrant.

About a third of this show is actually entertaining and that's normally when it's actually focused on Cassian or Caleen, leaving the remaining two thirds to the other characters. I chose pictures without Cassian on purpose. And there IS a K2 unit in here but it's not THE K2 unit, so you never figure out how they meet, which seems like a no brainer as far as a prequel series should go. Worse than Boba Fett, making it the worst live action series thus far for me.

Was there a highlight in all this? What was my favorite? I thought the prison was interesting but could've been better. The actual payoff for the heist was the only part that I could see being memorable. With the actual star war and the betrayal and I don't know why that guy decided to lay where he did on take-off but sure, okay.

[rickrakontoys]

The Obi-Wan Kenobi mini-series was pretty great!

*spoilers are discussed*

A definite improvement over The Book of Boba Fett in terms of narrative, production design, and direction.

While the story ultimately feels a bit superfluous (much of what we see could be inferred from what we saw previously in the prequel and OT trilogies), it does provide some welcome closure for prequel-era Obi-Wan.

Watching Ewan McGregor return to his role after nearly 20 years was a joy. Here, he is less constrained by the rather wooden and expository dialogue of the Prequels, and is able to convey much more emotion and character, while still being consistent with the character as we last saw him. Hayden Christensen is also a welcome return, and though he is mostly under the Darth Vader suit, the few scenes we have of him unmasked reveal how good he could have been in the role if the prequels had just had better direction (George Lucas' main weakness is in directing actors).

Moses Ingram is fascinating as Inquisitor Reva, conveying a bitter determination and barely masked internal frustration. I wish that the revelation of her origin wasn't held back for so long, as the reveal that she was once a youngling who survived Order 66 was too telegraphed and predictable. Had we known her ultimate goal earlier in the series, it could have given the show more opportunity to delve into the conflict and vengeance driving her.

The other Inquisitors were mostly just there and didn't leave much of an impression. Rupert Friend as the Grand Inquisitor looked a little silly under the makeup, but had a bit of smug charm in his potrayal. Sung Kang as the Fifth Brother felt wasted, as he only had a few scenes where he just reacts to Reva's actions. I barely even remembered there was another female Inquisitor.

Indira Varma is memorable as an Imperial defector secretly helping surviving Jedi on a Path to safety, and she has good chemistry with McGregor. Joel Edgerton fits right back in as Owen Lars, and both he and Aunt Beru are given more to do here than they ever were.

Vivian Lyra Blair was adorable as young Leia, providing spunk and vulnerability effortlessly. I think Carrie Fisher would be proud.

In terms of plot, it was surprising that they'd once again do a pairing of a grizzled, reluctant warrior with a small child. However, this was a sensible approach to provide a believable reason for Obi-Wan to leave his watch over Luke for at least a small amount of time. While the introduction of The Path that helped remaining Jedi reach safe haven was an interesting bit of post-Prequel world building, it ultimately didn't amount to much. The main driving force of the story was two tales of revenge: Darth Vader's hunt for his former master, and Reva's long play at vengeance against Vader. Both stories lead to a satisfying enough conclusion, with Vader choosing to give in to his rage, and Reva finally denying it. These being to more interesting parts of the show, I feel there could be a good 2-3 hour movie buried in the nearly 6 hour runtime of this show. Early episodes drag, and it is easy to see how this was conceived as a single story broken up needlessly into episodic content for Disney+. A bit more focus would have helped the pacing immensely. Thankfully the show at least builds to a climax that feels earned, with the final duel between Vader and Obi-Wan being among the best in the Star Wars series. The confrontation is emotional, and relatively simple and short, stripped of the needless bombast of their fight in Revenge of the Sith. They actually look like two men trying to kill each other.

In terms of production design, while better executed than Boba Fett's show, this series varies wildly from looking quite good, to bafflingly cheap. Many scenes clearly look shot on a small soundstage, using The Mandalorian's new StageCraft technology. Camera movement feels very limited, and shots always seem to rely on people running a short distance before cutting away, making the show feel needlessly claustrophobic. Still, some of the set design, such as the Fortress Inquisitorius, looks terrific. Unnecessary shakey camerawork during action scenes also make setpieces feel rather amateurish, and strange swooping shots during lightsaber duels feel a little hackneyed and incoherent.

The musical score for the show is okay, with a pleasant main theme by John Williams, but nothing that stands out very much sadly.

Ultimately, the series works very well when it is focused on the main characters. While some episodes were definitely better than others, as a single work, it manages to achieve what it sought to, while giving fans much of what they wanted to see. While I only hope they don't needlessly tack on a second season with a contrived reason to get Obi back into action again, a part of me wouldn't mind just watching a show of Ewan McGregor harvesting whale meat on Tatooine, feeding his horse-thing, bartering with Jawas, going to the market, and chatting with the ghost of Qui-Gon.

[aeruthien]

Alright, my quick review of Obi Wan Kenobi series part I and part II! (Both written directly after watching the episode)

Part I:

The Good

Ewan McGregor as Obi Wan Kenobi is wonderful, I missed him so much

Baby Leia is the cutest ever, even though she is a little bit too well spoken for a ten year old. But whatever, she is a princess, so I get it.

Her relationship with LOLA is the best

Owen is reasonably weary of Obi Wan. Honestly, do not leave toys at the kid's place if you don't want to get caught by evil inquisitors!

That said, it is now implied that Obi Wan got Luke the toy he was playing with in A New Hope, and that is making me Feel Things Inside.

I really loved the meat work place. That is a great piece of world building.

The Bad

Why did we have to see so much of the inquisitors? I honestly did not care at all for Reva and her attitude problems. It feels very 'we needed to include a strong female POC character but didn't actually know what to do with her'. Why not let her be good? A strong willed young Jedi as a reminder to Obi Wan that all is not lost?

I hope she gets kind of a redemption arc

The dialogue sounded very stilted. Which is on par with the prequels, but still. Let people speak more than a few words at the time, please.

Related to that, and maybe I was paying too much attention, but the reason for the various scenes felt very obvious to me. Like the magician showing their tricks. Baby Jedi is a plot device to show is Obi Wan feels detached and lost. Trusken Raider is a plot device to show Obi Wan secretly cares about Luke. Owen being angry and being singled out among all the bystanders is a plot device to show how scary it all is. And so forth.

Overall: 6.5/10

Part II The Good

Alright, I like Reva a bit better now. At least she is kind of competent, although that robot should have been rigged with an explosion.

I like how Obi Wan seems rusty in his fighting skills. It makes sense, he hasn't had to use it in a while.

He also seems rusty or at least unwilling to use the Force, although I assume he used it to find Leia that second time

Leia continues to be a delight, and thank you Obi Wan for saying she doesn't sound like a ten year old, lol. Their interactions have felt the most natural so far.

Obi Wan having a panic attack because he realizes Anakin is still alive was very well done. Although it is a bit weird that he hasn't heard of Darth Vader until this point. Didn't the Organa's tell him? They must have known right? Hopefully that is addressed next episode

The call back to Padme too…. I'm emotional

The Bad

Again, the scenes feel rushed. I assume they want to get to the main plot, but there have been a few interesting characters that they have just… glossed over. Glad Reva didn't kill Haja, but I doubt we'll see him again

I was so hoping that he'd get help from Cody…

I know it was supposed to be easy to rescue Leia because it was a trap, but did they really need Obi Wan for this? Like really? No one else competent enough around? Cassian is like twenty at this point right? He could have done it, I'm sure.

Overall: 7.5/10

[idjitlili]

No longer the Seth Rogen to my James Franco.

Obi-wan x senator!reader.

Summary: Imagine having to deny your feelings for the Jedi master and him denying his too, until another person tries to court you. Kenobi fears it is too late for him.

Warnings: Angst, fluff. Oh, sorry low-key some Bi aspects,only brief.

Requested by anon and @ahsokatanolovebot

A/n: Queen of Galadriel, Is made up, based on Gaga , and low-key Cate blanchett. Galadriel is not in Star Wars but, yeah.

Word count:1.7k

Knowing Obi-wan for most of your life made living out life difficult. Him being a Jedi and you being a senator; you didn't see him too often.  However, since the Jedi council was so involved with politics it was not impossible or unlucky.  Especially multiple times he had been assigned to watch over you or protect you from threats.

Knowing Kenobi for so long was inevitably going to lead to feelings. When did he not flirt? He'd flirt with anyone , if a glass of water was conscious he'd flirt with it. It was like he was programmed like it, maybe he was just horny from being a Jedi... They say no attachments but that doesn't mean no hookups? Doesn't matter Obi-wan never did that not that he had mentioned. You were sure he'd tell you, yeah you weren't around each other often did not mean you weren't close.

It didn't matter how hard you tried to escape your feelings, nothing worked, you couldn't exactly tell Obi-wan to bugger off. You'd be dead, he had many times saved your life,. As well as he did not deserve you pushing him away when he was nothing but a sweetheart.

Nothing between the two of you could ever happen, you knew him too well. He'd never give up being a Jedi...for you. You'd have to except that, no matter how much you loved him.

Though, there times , sorry pretty much all the time, when you felt like it wasn't just you, there was something between you two. Whether that was him just being flirty or just a really good friendship. No, no. , could not be love no way.

'We could be loversss."

"What d'you say?"

"We could be lovers, y/n."

"Stop it , Ben. Don't do this to me. What do you want me to say, you will be king?"

His lips inches from yours, his breath against your cheek. "And you, you will be queen."

"You're lying, I better not stay."

It was like he'd only want to flirt with you like he was the forbidden fruit.  You didn't know, how you'd hurt Obi-wan too. Other times, it would be you flirting him with him or both of you flirting back and forth. Depending on situations/moods.

"Obi-wan shh, my advisor is coming."  Your bodies pressed each  other in the small closet in your office,  The closet so small, Obi-wans face was pressed against the B crook of your neck as  he tried not to laugh. Your arms throw around his neck.  His lips tickling the nerves in the tissue of your neck, you had meant to twitch.

Oh, he already knew you were ticklish, you had just refreshed his memory, a smirk upon his face as his finger tips travelled up your body slowly.

"B-Ben!"

To say the least your advisor soon left the room, to give you privacy, she just didn't know Obi-wan. Take you in an office? He could never , it would have to be a pirate ship or something, if he ever did or if you ever wanted to do that task. However, tickling you in your office absolutely. 

After years of not knowing his true feelings, you tried to get back into work again. Well, until you met someone new. She was this lady that was well respected in her home world, that had travelled to Corellia where you were senator.  In fact she wasn't just well respected but she was the Queen.  She had travelled far to meet you, claiming she admired your work.

To say the least when you met her you stunned, this woman was stunning. She looked exactly like Lady gaga, which the hair she had none, yet a crown rested against her head. She radiated dominance. Instead of dresses and jewels  as you might expect for a Queen. Her body was laced with armour , her glove though was covered with diamonds and at the end of her pointer finger there was a knife type thing.

She was a very beautiful woman, you were shocked at her behaviour at dinner, she was flirting with you. More than Obi-wan.

"Now Senator y/l/n, I must know is there anyone in your life at the moment?" The simple strokes of her fingers on the table cloth, leaning back causally waiting for your response.

"Oh, uhm, no one and please just y/n." A nod of her head, as she watched you become a little nervous.

"Very well, but you seem unsure."

"I was there was someone, they cannot be with me even if they did want to, it's against their culture."

"Oh, that's very unfortunate for such a beautiful woman." You had turned from your food to look behind you before turning back to the woman.

" Oh-I, sorry , I thought you were looking in the mirror."

After that there were a few more dinners, each more she was more forward to flirt. By the last one you knew she was not just doing it for no reason she had an intention. From then on you'd receive flowers, food, clothing, you name it. You knew she was offering a courtship, but you didn't know whether to accept.

Rowena was really a gorgeous woman and presented her feelings freely. It was just not the same, not like Obi-wan, he had never showed any sign that he would give up being a Jedi for you, at least Rowena actually liked you. You could not shake Obi-wan.

The last thing you expected was Obi-wan's appearance, when you were packing supplies for another planet on lockdown via the empire, alongside Rowena's help. Unlike most Queens Rowena was hands on , and cared deeply for all living things.

"Y/n?" You had thought the voice had been in your head, you felt like he would not bugger off lately, way he using Jedi minds tricks on you? So, you'd be in love with forever. The slight jab in the side from Rowena confirmed you weren't the only one who heard.

Turning around on the balls of your feet, face to face with Obi-wan, a tired Obi-wan. His body slightly hunched , bags under his eyes-don't fall for it.

"Obi-wan you're back." Rowena had turned to look at the man too, noticing your face, your tone , this was the man you spoke of. Her eyes catching Obi-wan his eyes scanning her briefly before looking back to you.

"Oh! Sorry, Obi-wan this is Rowena-The Queen of Galadriel, w-we ar-"

"Friends, unless you choose to accept, Y/n. Nice meeting you...Kenobi." With that she had left you with Obi-wan not before pressing a kiss to your cheek. You hadn't know what she had been planning, she knew you were hopelessly in love with Obi-wan even if she did habour feelings for you, she was going to help you.

"Accept what?" He had gotten closer, his heart was in his stomach, that was not friendly behaviour , he knew it, her longing stares on you, they way she said his name, gave him chills.

"Her courtship."

"O-oh, I am happy for you. I am just here for a week, to help." His eyes avoid yours, as he left, he wasn't happy. In fact, you had left heading to your room, your eyes heavy again, you were right he didn't like you.

Your pda with the Queen became more frequent, well it was just holding hands, laughing and the occasional hug. Every time Obi-was saw his heart felt like it was going to explode , he had never felt such jealousy, heartbreak, anger. He couldn't stand it no longer , he hadn't been there three days, you hadn't accepted the courtship let.

However, he feared it was too late. He couldn't stand it no longer, he was going to go back , see Anakin shove himself back into work. That did not happen simply because Asajj Ventress had turned up with a bunch of droids to prevent any supplies to be sent out.

That exact moment you had been walking with a smoothie in your hand. Jumping out of your skin, and thrown the smoothie all over Ventress. She did not appreciate that, so you were captured. Obi-wan had heard a commotion and that was it, he followed the sound of... talking...no fighting but with flirtatious remarks. Oh no! The disgrace.

He had decided he had enough and hid behind walls, droids, lampposts whatever he could. To say the least he had not expected to come across Rowena fight Ventress, wait was this an enemies to lovers , oh it is.. what was angry flirting quickly turning into them kissing, as Rowena gestured for Obi-wan to come out and help you.

Pulled to your feet, your restrains removed as all the droids were destroyed, Rowena had turned her head back to you, grinning. Her elbow locked with Ventress' it was clear she had forgotten or had lost interest in her mission, now in the company with a Queen leaving you with Obi-wan. 

Your eyes meeting his, his hands still holding yours from helping you up, his eyes drowning, his face tired. Your skins touching warmth spreading through your body like blood, his callousness fingers gripping yours.

"I'm sorry, Y/n. I cannot watch you be with someone else; when I-I l-love you."

"I cannot be with someone else; I love you."

Okay, so you were almost Queen, Obi-wan was almost right about that, it wasn’t long after that moment the temple was destroyed and you and Obi-wan ended up in Tatooine, forever. Well, not forever...

[fallenrepublick]

Hi ! Idk if I already asked you this one 😅 but what would be Thrawn, Thrass, Maul, Savage, Vader, Eli, Grand Inqui, Tarkin, Krennic and Kenobi's favourite genre to read and/or to watch ? (Like fantasy, sci-fi, drama, romance,...)

And also, I sent a question some time ago idk if you got it 😅. If you didn't, no problem, it's not important.

Thank you again for all these beautiful posts btw ❤❤❤

You read my mind! I was just finishing up that last one you sent, so that'll be up in a sec!

But for nowww...

Thrawn likes, you guessed it, mysteries. But he's absolutely horrendous to watch them with, because he spoils the end every. single. time. He's silent for the first twenty minutes, sitting there, watching, analyzing. And you know exactly what to expect when he takes a deep inhale, and manages to get out, "The grandson-" before you smother him with a pillow.

Thrass likes watching anything, really, but his favourites are either mindless action movies like the 387th installment of Fast and Furious, or really, really bad reality tv. The first genre is something he can simply turn his brain off and watch, sometimes chatting with you over the sound of explosions, or zone out entirely as he messes with your hair. The other choice is where he's the most fun, watching things play out with the most incredulous expressions on his face, crying out, "Why does he get another chance??? He's such a dick???"

Maul's favourite genre is Letting You Choose And Then Criticizing Every Character He Possibly Can. Rom-coms and horror are the worst for him, because he just can't believe how difficult everyone in the movie makes things. Hell, it's even gotten him to admit once, "I know I'm dramatic, but this is just ridiculous." The man could watch a nature documentary and criticize a shark for not catching a fish fast enough.

Previously, Savage hadn't known what genre he likes, but once you showed him more and more fantasy films, he was hooked. In some odd way, it feels... familiar, like a world made by someone he was close to once, someone with enough dreams to make such things a reality. These worlds you show him, no matter how different, all feel much more like home than his real one ever did. You gifted him the huge, fancy Lord of the Rings trilogy book once. He almost cried.

Vader doesn't often watch movies or read anything that isn't a boring file on a datapad, but when he does, it's usually some sort of superhero content. Will he ever admit that he never quite let go of his childish dreams of becoming such a thing? Hell no. But he isn't willing to leave them behind just yet either.

Eli literally watches How It's Made unironically. You have begged, pleaded with him to please watch something interesting. He said, "Yeah, this is interesting."

The Grand Inquisitor loves, and I mean loves dramas. He swears by the claim that they're better in show form, but he'll take anything, from plots based on true events, or dystopian futures that all seem a little too familiar, sitting down eagerly with his legs crossed as he leans forward a little. Sometimes he'll glance over at you to make sure you're paying attention. It's your Thing now.

Tarkin doesn't watch television unless it's Eurovision season.

People ask Krennic what his favourite genres are, and he answers all high-and-mighty that he favours ~old~ silent, black and white artistic, foreign films. Lies. He cried over Serendipity and called it a masterpiece.

Now, Kenobi actually does like the old, artistic films that exist for little reason other than trying to "break barriers" of filmmaking. He's one that sits there, enjoying the vibe of it, letting little realisations about the stylistic choices hit him with each re-watch. But he does quite like a good musical now and again as well. It gives him something to hum as he travels around.

[elendiliel]

Thinking (yet again, as I have been on and off since watching Obi-Wan Kenobi) about the first duel between Vader and my Jedi OC Helli Abbasa (described in more general terms in this fic).

At first, both combatants are holding back, as though this is just another of the many sparring matches they've fought since they were young padawans. While Helli would rather die than let Vader - Anakin, she can't help but call him, even in her head - anywhere near her loved ones, harming her old friend is very much a last resort. And while Vader intends to kill her in the end, he wants to defeat her fair and square first, something he never managed to do as a Jedi. And he wants to draw this out, letting her believe she can beat him before showing her she can't.

They even comment on the changes in one another's combat styles in the twenty years since they last faced each other. Helli remarks that while he still favours Ataru, Shien and Djem So, the balance has shifted to match both his new allegiance and his new limbs, and he now actively disfavours Soresu, his Jedi master's preferred form. His skills at unarmed combat have also suffered, though they seem largely unnecessary now. She jokes that when he once promised he'd find a counter to one of her signature moves - a reverse high-section turning kick while her opponent was still parrying her previous strike - she didn't think he'd gain an extra thirty centimetres of height. He notes that she still uses the same mix of Niman and Soresu, backed up by Makashi, Djem So and some Shien, but her form is better than ever, her techniques more precise, her control almost perfect, and deduces that she has had at least one student during her exile. She nearly loses control at that, but manages not to rise to the bait.

He eventually rises to her unconscious bait, though, showing off his new mastery of Juyo; her counterattack is unmistakeably Vaapad. He falters for a moment, taken aback by the sweet, gentle girl he remembers having learned the most aggressive lightsabre form a Jedi can safely use. She slips through his guard, holding her blade - the power turned down to just above sparring level - close to his neck, close enough to sting even through his clothes.

"First blood to me, brother," she says, as though this really were a sparring match. "Do you yield?"

He doesn't, of course, but she's ready for that - and for the force of the impact as she blocks his next strike. His right forearm has been cybernetic longer than the rest of him; her left arm used to be permanently bruised, back when they trained together. At least her bones are still intact. As they continue, Anakin pushing her further and further, she explains that Master Windu taught her the theory behind Vaapad and the basic techniques years ago, but she was too young and inexperienced to make good use of them. She isn't now.

Vader keeps on raising the intensity of the duel, giving Helli the best one-on-one workout she's had since Ahsoka disappeared. (He's too focused on beating her to notice that she's controlling the location of the fight, steering them outside, towards the shuttle hangar her brothers should have reached by now.) At one point, he disarms her, sending her sabre rolling away, but instead of going after it she switches to pure unarmed combat, raising her crossed forearms to ward off a downward blow (adding more bruises to her collection) and following through with a front snap kick to his stomach (as his solar plexus is both under his chest unit and higher up than it used to be). It actually connects, sending him reeling backwards a pace or two, just long enough for her to summon her lightsabre in time to begin the deadly dance again.

When she suddenly goes on the offensive and an old-fashioned shuttle comes into view, heading straight for them, he realises what she's been trying to do, and that she was never aiming to win - just slow him down. But it's too late. Drawing consciously on the Force for the first time since the duel began, she drives him back just far enough that she can reach the ship and safety, leaving her opponent behind. His instinctive counterattack almost sends him mask-first to the ground, as his enemy is long gone. He still hasn't beaten her, and though he doesn't know it, he never will.

[burnwater13]

Image shows the Mandalorian Armorer training Din Djarin in the use of the Darksaber. Image from The Book of Boba Fett, Season 1, Episode 5, Return of The Mandalorian. Calendar from DateWorks. Caption reads: Persistence without insight will lead to the same outcome. Your body is strong, but your mind is distracted. - The Armorer.

NOTE: This image does not go with the quote. The Armorer stops the lesson because the Mandalorian keeps fighting the Darksaber. Disneyplus is being a butt, so I couldn't get a good screen photo. Apologies.

Grogu wondered if the Armorer had once studied at the Jedi Temple. She sure sounded like a Jedi at times. This whole thing about “persistence without insight” gave him strong ‘do or do not’ Master Yoda vibes. He supposed it was possible that she could have gained access to Jedi teaching materials when she lived on Concordia. 

Given how the Jedi had a bad tendency to lose things they brought with them from the Temple (looking at you Obi-Wan Kenobi), Grogu didn’t doubt for a minute that a holocron or two may have ended up somewhere they shouldn't have. After all, Mandalorians didn’t use lightsabers. How could she possibly have taught his dad how to use the Darksaber? But a holocron wouldn’t care about who it taught. The Jedi just liked teaching.

And her next comment about Din Djarin being distracted was a huge tell. The Mandalorian only had one reason to be distracted and that one reason was Grogu. He was spending the summer at Luke's Jedi Sleep Away Camp on Ossus and his dad missed him, like any good dad would. That, of course, was another tell tale from Jedi teachings… thinking family was a distraction and that finishing a quest was the same as never having a family to begin with. Din Djarin couldn’t get rid of his responsibilities that easily. No dad could.

Which the Armorer would know if she really followed the Creed. Grogu was a foundling. Din Djarin had rescued him. That meant that the Mandalorian was stuck with him and Grogu knew that the Armorer knew that. Only a Jedi would have found a bunch of technical reasons for why that couldn't work. Things like ‘the boy’s too old’ and ‘he’s too attached to his friends’ and ‘he eats too much, he’ll break our budget���… wait, not that last one. That was what the head chef at the Jedi Temple had said when Ian commented that he wished he could clone Grogu just to watch him race himself eating.

So if the Armorer wasn’t really a Mandalorian and was actually a Jedi, how did she learn to be an armorer? She clearly knew her trade. Grogu had watched her make things several times. The sigil for Din Djarin. His rondel. The expertise and skill were on display right in front of him every day. Hmmm. Was she some sort of undercover agent? A sleeper Jedi sent to Mandalore to learn the ways of an enemy that the Jedi seemed to fight almost every time they turned around? 

Grogu supposed that was possible, but not terribly likely. At least not the spy part. It was just as likely that she had become dissatisfied with the Jedi Order and all the rules you had to follow and decided she liked the Mandalorian galactic view better… nah, that didn’t make sense.  Mandalorians had twice as many rules as the Jedi did. No taking the helmet off. No fighting with other Mandalorians (which they seemed absolutely incapable of following). No bringing dishonor to Mandalore (another thing they all seemed to fail at). Their whole Creed was a rule book with one saying to rule them all ‘This is the Way’. 

It had taken Grogu a while to work out that ‘This is the Way’ was something you said to acknowledge that you would follow the path agreed upon regardless of how fool hardy or dangerous it was. This is the Way. No other path would do. If you didn't follow it you couldn’t be a Mandalorian. Every time it was said it reinforced the behavior and that's just what the Creed wanted. If you were trying to get away from the Jedi code, order, rulebook, what have you, running to the Mandalorians wasn’t really very likely. Unless you liked a challenge.

Which meant that as much like the Jedi the Armorer was in her words and actions, it seemed pretty far fetched that she had ever been a Jedi. Then how the heck did she know so many Jedi-ish things? Was she a fan? Some times people did that. You were a fan of a group or a person or a culture and you did everything you could to learn about them, visit them, act like them, be them - in an honorable way, not in a fake identity way. 

For example, Grogu was a huge fan of Diggle and Daggle, the Fish that fish. He watched all of their vids, had seen every interview, collected what ever he could fit on a datapad if it was about them. They were the best and he often wished he could be just like them. Sitting in a small repulsor boat with fishing gear, snacks, and an endless knowledge of every type of fish, crustacean, cetacean, mollusk, bivalve, watery critter virtually everywhere in the known galaxy.  Spending your entire day and sometimes the whole night with your best friend fishing and chatting about the fish you hoped to catch. 

One year, when he was still at the Jedi Temple, he had made a ‘Daggle’ costume. It was so funny. The fins and tail moved independently of each other and the scales were shiny and kind of iridescent. Ian had helped him make it, even though he absolutely refused to be ‘Diggle’. Instead he was their ‘A&R’ guy and wore a badge on a lanyard with ‘Diggle and Daggle, the Fish that fish’ written on it, and walked around with a datapad, while he pretended to talk to someone on a comm unit. Grogu’s favorite moment was when Master Beq congratulated them on their work. They had been assigned to represent ‘Present Day Heroes’. Diggle and Daggle brought people across the galaxy so much joy, Master Beq agreed they were definitely heroes.

Maybe that was what the Armorer was doing. She wasn’t an actual Jedi, but secretly she was fan of how they did certain things… mostly.  She couldn’t wear a Master Yaddle costume, it would be too small for one thing, but she could honor the Jedi master by honoring the lessons that Mandalorians and Jedi had in common. Honor. Skill. Responsibility. You didn't have to be a Jedi to appreciate their good points, even if you didn’t wear a cloak and carry a lightsaber, just like you didn't have to be a fish, to fish.

[sirikenobi12]

So... A lot has been said already, but man, all the greatest anti-Jedi hits are here aren't they???

Where to start?? Okay, let's start with the "indoctrinated" children bit. So, what people seem to forget is that all of us are indoctrinated to something as a child and it is always our parent's choice. Whether it be religious or the schools/clubs we attend or who we first associate with - all of us, everywhere are in some way indoctrinated into some form of society, in fact you said it yourself that you are only going to use Christian examples because you live in a "Christian Country"...tell me, why do you live in a Christian country, was it because that's where your parents brought you up? Now, we like to throw shade at a group of Monks who are based on Eastern religions which to be honest is more of a calling than an actual religious organization the way we Westerners know it. - I urge you before you advocate that these people needed to fundamentally change that you google even modern day Buddist Munks and see the comparison to the Jedi Order.

Secondly, let's take out the religious factor because I think that is really where you're getting tripped up. The Jedi adopted the children at the consent of the parents mainly for 2 reasons (as we see in canon). It is a HUGE honor to be a Jedi in this world (as it is a HUGE honor to be one of these Monks in our world). Many people even in our modern era study and train for years without seeing their birth families, it's not unheard of. Did you not see Shmi Skywalker's face light up when she realized Anakin could be a Jedi?? He had already been freed, he could've stayed with her and made a business for himself, but it was the honor or being a Jedi tied with the knowledge that he'd want for nothing while living within the temple, she knew he would be cared for and I'll bet this was the response of most all the other parents.

The second reason most children were given to the Jedi is that the parents couldn't handle their Force abilities and knew the Jedi could help them and would ultimately be a better environment for their development. With so many slavers wanting Force sensitive children around the galaxy they also knew the Jedi would protect them

In fact, watch anything set during the Galactic Empire (Kenobi, Rebels, etc.) and tell me Force sensitive children are better off when there isn't the Jedi Order around to protect them and guide them?

And yes, they were given a sword since you can't seem to let that go. But did you know in most martial arts a weapon is more of a training tool for discipline, not attack? And even Yoda taught that a Jedi uses it only for defense. This didn't make the children "soldiers".

With regards to the "mind trick" you don't think someone with raw Force talents can't do that (Rey does it in TFA)? The Jedi are guiding these kids with dangerous powers to help them to know how to use them - maybe look at the Temple more like Xavier's School for the Gifted instead of a religious order.

I have already written a rather lengthy post about the Jedi and the war so I don't really want to get into all of it again, but I will say that there is new canon material (spoilers for the Brotherhood book) that shows us that it was actually Palpatine's new executive orders that started sending Padawans onto the battlefield, the Jedi were against it. Showing once again how they were trapped.

I know you said the Sith didn't matter in the war, but they did, 100%. The Sith were playing both sides, the Jedi were conscripted into battle just as much as the Clones were. And even if with the argument that it was just a group trying to succeed from the Republic so why fight them? Well, because that's only what they were on paper. Obi-Wan literally overheard Dooku in AOTC that they are amassing a huge army to overthrow the Republic and "overwhelm" the Jedi. And then the Separatists continue to invade neutral or Republic planets, they were the aggressor in the conflict.

Lastly, I ask you in good faith to answer this question, legitimately, please. In the case of the war, what were the Jedi supposed to do instead? Let people die, turn their backs on the clones and people of the Republic - how does that fit into their philosophy more than them trying to save lives and bring a swift end to the conflict.

And for the record, if someone didn't like the rules them they could leave, that was always an option, one people love to ignore.

The fact that some people come to the conclusion that the point of the prequels was that the Jedi deserved what happened to them is not only infuriating and horrifying, but its also really fucking dumb

First off, this is genocide, do you realize what you're saying when you say they "deserved" it?

You sound like fucking nazis

That's not hyperbole, that's literally what the nazis said/say about Jews and everyone else they considered to be "inferior"

Secondly it's dumb, like, jesus tap dancing christ think for a minute

They played sad music as the Jedi were murdered and made it explicitly clear that the children were included in this genocide

If you were meant to think this was a good thing, then THERE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SAD MUSIC AND CHILDREN BEING MURDERED