#i can not wait to see how sel-nick dynamic changes because oh my gosh
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worth-this-and-more · 1 month ago
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holy fuck i said "fuck" so many times reading this whole post oh my gosh oh my fucking heavens
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there's like zero addition from my side im just emphasising the points but nvm this is my blog so okay ig
[spoilers for legendborn and bloodmarked, read at your own caution ;)]
okay so the oaths have always always pissed me off for no reason other than that it's an abusive commitment forced upon both the sides, and given the fact that they can feel what the other feels and the whole bloodlust and shit, i honestly hate oaths but oh my god this angle of are nick's feelings really nick's feelings?? god i've always wondered this because nick and bree being "call and response" has always been there, and it makes sense too, but this angle is something i feel like could happen?? either in breesel or breeselnick. im in for all the options that have bree and sel lmfaooo
sel is raised as a weapon and nick was going to be raised as the king but ofc he rejected his legacy so that did not happen. sel got all of it and like you can actually tell hs first instinct with aether is always weapons like;
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like bro could've just made a stick but had to go ahead and make the blade (i've laughed at this scene wayy too much im officially insane) but my point is that the "soldier" mentality is ingrained in selwyn for obvious reasons and so any moment he feels "affection" for bree that's obviously nick because what the hell i cant feel for shit I'm the kingsmage so oh. my. god.
"Where does Nick's feelings end and Sel's feelings begin?" Where is the line? Is there one?
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and also also also about the childhood theory I've always always been on this hill i have a tent and a mansion and a residency on this hill but honestly how likely is it that natasia and faye being bestie's wouldn't bring their children on play dates?? why wouldn't they?? because before natasia was evicted and all that, they must've known each other somehow or else how did natasia know who to ask for help?? because my theory is that faye definitely helped natasia in some way to reverse the "succumbing to blood" and if bree and sel were mesmered as kids that could explain why here;
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sel did not say anything but what was he thinking?? like bree's rootcrafting abilities came after faye's death so she probably didn't have the abilities to feel merlin gaze and all that but because it is a biological genetic ability i think she has always had these, rather than gaining them after faye's death. and maybe she never noticed it because she was never exposed to it at all before?? faye mentioned her friend hazel who did not see any "colors" aka aura around her. so it was probably that her rootcrafting abilities did not show up but her genetic "resisting mesmer" and "identifying merlins" abilities must be there because that's a defense mechanism. also here;
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the drug did not dampen her abilities to feel merlin gaze and resist mesmer.
so what im saying is, going with this assumption that kid bree only met two merlins, natasia and selwyn, she must've told him someday his gaze feels like sparks. must've asked him why does he run so hot. must've questioned tons about merlins and sel may have answered her cautiously or maybe a bit giddy because why is she so interested in a demon??
at davises house did sel find a fleeting gap, a hole in his mind, where this memory was supposed to happen?? did he think about that gap over and over again like a tooth that has fallen out and you roll your tongue over it remembering that something was there. something you knew. did he feel that at all. did he think of it when he was on the run in bloodmarked, finally seeing the order for what it is, because now he was no longer a weapon they trusted but a weapon they had no more use of. this was the time where he must've thought about natasia and all that so the gaps in memories or memories that once felt like him suddenly didn't feel real anymore. couldn't he have ever wondered like we do about his mother having a best friend that she somehow never mentioned?? maybe for his sake or because she didn't feel like he was supposed to know this (i feel like he'd go to this option first) but whatever the reason wouldn't he have thought about them now.
went really off the rails so imma stop but babe these theories are scrumptious and I'm devouring them
Theories and predictions about 'Oathbound', and The Kingsmage Oath in particular
okayokayokay yes, I know, I can think of nothing else but Legendborn these days, but ngl I feel such a desperate need to write this out to get more thoughts on it. We already know quite a lot about the Kingsmage oath, right? But as the title of the third book suggests, I believe we will learn a whole lot more about it in Oathbound and I cannot fkn wait lol
[Major Legendborn and Bloodmarked spoilers ahead, read at your own... volition, tihi]
Alright. So. First off, disclaimer - I don't currently have my physical copy of Legendborn closeby to reference stuff, so if any of this is debunked in the first book please correct me! Most of this is sprouted from Bloodmarked! I don't think we got that much info about the Kingsmage oath in Legendborn but it was also quite a while since I read it lol
Theory no. 1
First off, the thing that made me start off my 10-message long rant about this to my Legendborn-partner-in-crime to begin with, is the fact that the two "participants" of the oath are connected to the degree that, not only does the Kingsmage feel if the Scion is in danger, but the Scion in question also feels the things the Kingsmage feels. Selwyn even explains that this is partly why he attacked Bree during the trials in book one during the infamous "graveyard scene":
" 'You remember that I planned our partnership during the trial. Planned to trick you, corner you, and kill you. I knew Nicholas would feel a desire to kill someone that night, because it would come over from me to him through the bond. I planned for him to eventually discover that the person he'd wanted to... was someone he-' [Sel] shakes his head, eyes hard. 'That it was you.' " - Bloodmarked, page 366
...and
" 'The morning after the first Oath, [Nick] came to me. Said he'd felt my desire to kill you and begged me to leave you alone, because of what it did to him' -[Sel] taps his chest- 'here. He said it felt wrong, wanting to hurt you. ' So I knew that what I sent through the bond would poison the part of him that was beginning to love you. Knew that if I failed, he'd have to live with the memory of wishing his girlfriend dead. Not just the memory, but the feeling of wanting to kill you himself, with his bare hands. Murderous intent like that is one of the worst feelings in the world. Haunting. Destructive. And for someone like Nick... it would tear him apart in a way he'd never forget and never heal from. And I did not care. I believed I was right, all in the name of duty.' " - Bloodmarked, pages 366-367
Both of these show the bad effects of the bond. Sel can actively affect Nick's views of the people around him, and influence his actions, and I believe that this is shown by how Nick beheaded that one guard without hesitation, that one time.
"I didn't kill Zhao for my father." Nick's eyes burn. "I killed him for me." Sel's eyes widen incrementally. "We should...come back to that." - Bloodmarked, page 467
The interesting thing about this is the way Sel has been so sure that Nick would "never hurt another soul", and yet, here he is, rejecting Sel's reasoning that Nick killed Zhao because of his father, and instead hammering home that "no, I did it for me." Because, and hear me out on this, Nick is, in the moment of the kill...oathbound to a Merlin actively fighting his own demonia from taking over.
Bree also brings up multiple times that "Nick has become a killer, the dangerous thing" after witnessing the murder (which, when I read it sounded a bit silly since Sel has tried to murder her multiple times and even explained in detail how he planned to do that specific thing but oh well lol), but in relation to how we've seen Sel act throughout Bloodmarked, and keeping the Kingsmage Oath in mind, it makes sense. Because is it ever explained how Sel's descent might also be transferring to Nick through the bond? If it is, I don't remember seeing it.
Also, Nick being so incredibly calm and no-hesitation about killing Zhao (in one of the more brutal ways he could have, even), makes me fully believe that it was either 1. not his first kill, or 2. he is more affected by Sel's demonia than Tracy wants us to realize. During the scene where Sel and Bree watch him kill Zhao, Sel is still void cuffed, which to me means that he is still actively fighting his demonia from taking him. Sel doesn't get his void cuffs off until the fight with Erebus where Bree root-boosts him back to his normal, balanced self, which happens after Nick's kill.
The synopsis of Oathbound hints at Nick having "secrets to share with the Table", and we know absolutely nothing about what he spent all of Bloodmarked doing. We only followed one half of the whole. If Sel was only half-successful in "poisoning" Nick with murderous intent towards Bree in Legendborn, when he hadn't yet lost his humanity... Do you see where I'm going with this?
Tracy herself shared a fanart of Nick doing The Thing, and quoted the artist with something along the lines of "Nick should scare you!" and "Ruthless Nick is the correct opinion to have!", and considering that Nick is now, by the end of Bloodmarked, bonded to a fully succumbed Demon!Sel, what does that make Nick?
Theory no. 2
Now, onto the more fun side of the oath (or, more heartbreaking, depending on how you read it, I guess lol)
I have seen a few people being put off by Nick and Bree's relationship in Legendborn because it, to some degree, reads a lot like "insta-love". And sure, love at first sight and all that stuff but how long has Bree known Nick, really? A couple weeks, maybe? I however, have another theory to this.
Again, the two participants of the Kingsmage Oath share feelings both ways, as explained by Sel:
" 'When did you worry [about losing your humanity]?' [...] 'When I started to see what I believe Nicholas sees when he looks at you. Only a monster could look at you and want to destroy you, Bree.' " - Bloodmarked, page 368
And of course we are led to believe that Nick, the "blond, good-hearted knight in shining armor" is the good influence, right, and Sel being the "tall dark and handsome demon" is the bad influence on the two...
...But what if it was the other way around the entire time?
[Sel:] " 'I was raised not to trust myself!' " - Bloodmarked, page 368
[Sel:] " 'I don't know if that's in the cards for me.' [...] 'If I'm allowed that wish, it would be truly something. But wishes are dangerous mind games we play with ourselves. The only way to win is to not play.' " - Bloodmarked, page 475
Sel was raised as a weapon and a shield for the Scion of Arthur, and has never been treated as anything else. He was never allowed by anyone else nor himself to put himself and his own feelings first. So when he is suddenly struck with feelings for Bree, it makes sense for him to "blame it" on Nick, automatically. He couldn't possibly be the one with romantic, wholesome, fluffy feelings towards someone else, right? To Sel, it would feel wrong. "Illegal".
" 'Why didn't you [leave]?' 'Because my judgement is not what it should be around you, Bree. It never has been.' " - Bloodmarked, page 369
"It never has been," huh? Now, I find that to be a very funny choice of wording, Tracy, since the over-arching conflict in the entirety of Bloodmarked is related to mesmers and witheld information.
And the fact that Bree's mother and Sel's mother knew each other.
" 'The woman that helped you hide the memory. Was that Sel's mother?' My mother smiles, fond and sad at once. ' Yes. Natasia.' I have to ask. 'Do you know where she is?' She glances at Sel, and I know her answer is for his ears and mine both. 'No. Even if I could speak to her now, she would not tell me.' " - Bloodmarked, page 447
We also know that Sel's mother was the one who mesmered Bree in the hospital. But what if both Bree and Sel were mesmered at some point? What if the romantic feelings Nick felt for Bree the moment they met was actually Sel's feelings for Bree, coming over through the bond?
Another thing that speaks to this, I believe, is the use of the phrase "call and response", which Bree uses a lot when talking about herself and Nick,
" And then [Nick's] mouth is on mine, and every call and response we've ever felt pales in comparison to this one. " - Bloodmarked, page 377
...but also how she describes the relationship between Arthur and Lancelot:
" I shiver. Even [Lancelot's] voice affects me like Nick's does. 'Arthur?' he asks. And I reply, 'Lancelot.' Call and response. That's how it is between me and Nick. How it has always been. " - Bloodmarked, page 132
I believe, again, that this "call and response" thing is what I personally believe is what might be bringing Nick and Bree so close so fast. They are both scions of what I see as one of the most bromantic knights in the entire Order. Of course they out of all people would find a connection soul-to-soul right way. And that on top of Sel possibly knowing Bree before Legendborn even happens? It's no wonder that both of the two boys feel so comfortable gushing about her being "beautiful forever" in that one bloodwalk that one time, lol.
In conclusion, I guess the big question at hand is "Where does Nick's feelings end and Sel's feelings begin?" Where is the line? Is there one? I'd like to argue that the fact that Sel's first instinct, when he first starts feeling "what Nick is feeling" towards Bree is to kill her, is denial in the most severe degree. He is the first character from the Order Bree meets, accidental or not, and even though Tracy has said that she wrote Legendborn without a set goal for the endgame-couple, I'm willing to believe that that has shifted towards a BreeSel outcome after the mayhem of a character-development-arc that is Bloodmarked.
The fact that I am a BreeSel believer might also be influenced by the fact that we simply have not seen Nick in A While lol
And if not, I'm willing to root for a Bree x Sel x Nick throuple lol. As long as Sel is part of the endgame setup, I'm good.
Just please let Lark be left alone for William even if Lark and Bree commit to a Kingsmage oath, Tracy, I beg
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