#i can also rant and be petty about bottom kiri in another post too SDGJKH

[kiri-tired]

I don't have problem with the ship itself, but despite shipping Yujikiri side more I think Kiriyuji has better fanworks. Yujikiri side has a problem of making Kirito too submissive, or putting him through extremely uncomfortable situations, woobifying Kirito, even though Eugeo in canon treats him very tenderly. It was already a problem in fanworks of any bottom!Kirito ships even before Alicization anime, it almost feels like because many people hate Kirito so it's sadistically fun for them to see him mistreated. It's not that Kiriyuji side doesn't have OOC works, but Kiriyuji artists seem to respect both Kirito & Eugeo better

OK BUT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I´VE BEEN THINKING THOUGH!!!

High-key agree with everything here. I really didn´t want to start any top/bottom discourse cuz it is just so cliche and it reaaaally shouldn´t matter BUT!!! The portrayal of top Eugeo in the fandom is absolutely appalling we really need to talk about it. This is mostly coming from the JP fandom side---but the Western side can be guilty of it too.

I´ve seen some absolutely triggering Yujikiri shit---Actually its more like really triggering Kirito shit tbh--- And I'm not even sure if I can go into the specifics because its SO fucking scary--but trust me when I say they include some really controversial things....And yes! I am definitely noting that bottom Kirito gets absolutely stripped from any personality and gets put in absolute messed-up situations but I don't think it's out of hate though...No no. It's more out of like this sick twisted kink. They just think it's fun to see him getting played with--getting ruined. And speaking of ruin, Eugeo!!!...gets portrayed as disingenuous as possible to the point that it's literally criminal. Ngl, this shit has offended and/or triggered me so hard that I'm even kinda wanting to avoid content creators who prefer top Eu LMAO

I think this is just kind of the problem with yaoi but EH I'm not sure if that excuses everything and besides--I just said the Western fandom is guilty of this too, happening mostly in fanfics. It is just...so fucking weird. It's like yall don't even know the characters smh

And yes while Kiriyuji is not perfect--it CAN be kinda bastardized sometimes, but it has never really been straight up traumatizing like some of the Yujikiri content...

Oh god I am probably sounding really vague right now but it is just THAT bad.

You know what we need? We need more !Verse Yujikiri content.

...and if yall ever want any tips on how to make a good top Eugeo, I'll write it another post sometime cuz this is already getting way too long LOL