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ruffboijuliaburnsides · 2 years ago
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Was Phil killing Wilbur justified?
I think the use of "justified" here is a funny thing 'cause like... idk a lot of these "justified" questions make me think "that's already making some assumptions about the situation" but I don't know how more clearly to phrase that thought. I don't think any of the intentional deaths on the server were "justified", really, but I think some of them were understandable and possibly even the right thing to do? Or at least not an unforgivable thing to do? So let's go with that for "justified".
So Phil killing Wilbur... is a really complicated situation to me. Regardless of what their actual relationship was or wasn't, this is Wilbur's dad who's just shown up, witnessed his son commit an act of terrorism that frankly I think he expected to die carrying out considering how close the TNT was to the button, and then who begged and goaded Phil to kill him while they were watched from a distance by a group of victims who absolutely would see Phil standing up in the button room with Wilbur and assume he was involved.
So, Wilbur wanted to die. Wilbur had done something horrible that would probably get him executed anyway, by people who might want to drag it out. Phil was in danger of the same treatment by being assumed to be working with Wilbur. And, even if he knew about the three canon lives thing, there's no reason to MY knowledge to assume Phil knew Wilbur was on his last canon life and wouldn't be able to respawn and escape to safety afterwards.
I think all that makes it "justified" in the sense of "understandable and forgivable", for Phil to kill him.
Is Quackity a villainous character?
Absolutely not. An antagonist? absolutely sometimes. An asshole? definitely sometimes. But not a villain.
Was the Butcher Army justified in hunting down Technoblade?
No, but I can understand why they thought it was a good idea.
Like, yes, Techno had turned on them, but he also hadn't been responsible for the worst of what happened (that was Wilbur, even WITH the withers. Subscribe to Technoblade. ✌) and they had no indication he was going to cause more trouble for them.
BUT they were pretty fuckin young, and I can see why they'd think both "We need to take out the threats we can get to before they can hurt us" AND "if we take out Technoblade we'll solidify our power on the server".
So no, not justified, but understandable. Sadly, I think they pretty much signed the eventual death warrant of New L'Manburg with that, bc as much as he hated government I think Techno (and by extension Philza) would've been less likely to work with Dream to ultimately raze it to the fuckin ground.
Was Technoblade justified in executing Tubbo?
I mean no, because he absolutely could've booked it alive, considering most folks weren't actively armed at that point, but it could've been a near thing, and Tubbo definitely would've died anyway, possibly by someone who didn't want to make it as quick and painless as possible.
If the kid was gonna die anyway, might as well be at the hand of someone sympathetic and not inclined to cause undue suffering, right? Plus, y'know, trying to not get absolutely jumped for refusing? Yeah.
Like the Butcher Army, I think it's not justified, but understandable. And possibly the right thing to do as far as he could tell, so.
Is TNTduo /r?
Answered already!
(dsmp lore discourse ask meme by someone who barely knows dsmp lore)
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