#i also love thinking about how theyd all feel about the MCU if it existed

[lunaticsandidiots]

What do you think Chris' movie knowledge is like?

I've been thinking it'd be kind of limited, due to his dad being controlling and stuff, but on the other hand, the thought of movies being Chris "guilty pleasure" that he knows way too much about is making me insane.

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THIS IS SO TRUE! oh man my brain is going haywire with ideas right now (also i had to use this gif i promise its relevant later)

chris + movies…

first of all, you’re so correct in saying that chris’ film knowledge would be limited due to the circumstances of both his childhood and adult life (missions, prison, coma etc).

i think all of his comfort movies would be from his childhood/teen years. he was born in 1982, so my examples are gonna be based around that knowledge.

it makes sense to me that the movies he did watch with his dad would be ultraviolent in nature, just stuff that you shouldn’t watch as a young, impressionable kid.

i think chris probably would have sat through more controversial films auggie watched like Cannibal Holocaust (1980) and A Clockwork Orange (1971)

auggie wouldn’t have cared in the least though, he would have watched what he wanted to, and if chris happened to be in the room or he ‘behaved good enough’ auggie just would have let him watch.

i think chris’ favourites from all of those would be films like Die Hard (1988), Predator (1987), and To Live and Die in LA (1985).

i also have this heartbreaking idea that the one thing they’d all do together (Chris, Keith and Auggie) was watch Monty Python (Life of Brian, The Meaning of Life, The Holy Grail) and that it was one of the rare moments that all three of them would be together, laughing and having a genuine, enjoyable, wholesome time.

i also think Keith and Chris would have snuck out to go see midnight matinees together, films Auggie wouldn’t approve of, those of which would be Chris’ other favourites.

films like Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989), Army of Darkness (1992) and Child’s Play (1988).

now, if you made the effort to introduce him to more current films, i think he’d be very vocal with his opinions on them.

you cannot deny that if the MCU somehow existed, episode 1 chris would be one of those ‘thanos has a point and he did nothing wrong’ guys.

i think chris would adore action/stoner comedies like Hot Fuzz (2007), Pineapple Express (2008) and Kingsman: The Secret Service (2014).

(tbh he’d eat up any and all seth rogen/jonah hill films and you know it).

i also have this vision of you guys watching Hacksaw Ridge (2016), and you hear a sniffle, and you look over and see him absolutely bawling his eyes out. i think it would hit him like a tonne of bricks and move him deeply, and maybe even inspire him a little bit to resort less to violence (he’d never admit that aloud though).

[thesharondefenseleague]

To that anon tbh Sharon I don't think is uniquely unpopular by fandom standards. Maybe by MCU standards but not fandom in gen standards. Or at least its not that weird that she is.

Ship wars and just being bitter that the ship that became canon wasn't your ship and throwing salt at that ship was just always a thing. Especially if the fandom for the non canon ship thought they had a shot of being canon. See any fandom with a love triangle in the story ever.

Now its more the norm to pretend that its something deep. That the other ship is morally repugnant and you aren't just being petty af. When Sharon was the most unpopular it was still kinda the norm to just be openly petty but justifying your saltiness was becoming more the norm. Hence you'd get arguments like Sharon was a no homo and Sharon was abusive. But also just people just actively shitting on her for no reason at all apart from the fact they didnt like her not even trying to justify it.

Which again is nothing all that new. What makes it stand out imo are a few reasons.

1. Social Media being integrated- before the social media spread for fandom ships would be more diverse. There would be communities for specific ships or fiction archives and it was easy to avoid ships you didn't like. Sure if your ship was involved in a major shipping war or people were talking trash about it you could still know but the exposure to the drama wasn't always inevitable. But now if fans of more popular ships occasionally shit on your far less popular ship even if its only like 5 percent of the fans of the more popular ship that outnumbers your entire fandom. So you get drowned out for amount of content and then when anyone looks for content for the unpopular ship they mostly get negativity and its very hard to avoid.

2. MCU being such a huge fandom. Not marvel comic characters specifically the MCU and Steve being kinda a fandom bycycle. There was a good chance if you were in this fandom you had a favorite Steve ship and if you were a MCU fan primarily not a comics fan ( which let's be honest many were during hieght of Sharon drama) then that ship probably wasn't Sharon. I know in general people like to say it was primarily Stucky and Steggy fans throwing shade. But that was mostly because those were two of the biggest ships with Steve. Other Steve shippers did too. It was just that there were just less of them so it seemed like it was just Stucky or Steggy. For a while it was just a thing to shit on Sharon for not just Stucky or Steggy fans but like it was a MCU fandom thing. And the reason for this is-

3. The lack of MCU Sharon and Steve x Sharon fans. There were a few comic Sharon and SteveSharon fans. But not MCU ones because Natasha and Peggy had taken alot of comic Sharons moments and character. It was really common to see arguments like oh I love comic Sharon but fuck MCU Sharon. Why she even exist?

Pretty much all canon ships got hate. But it imo was less because they still had quite a few fans it was less cool to shit on it you got more push back. And it didnt always reflect on the characters. BruceNat was incredibly unpopular but Bruce and Natasha didnt become incredibly unpopular as a result. Sure they had haters but theyd already been established and had fans of their own ( especially Natasha). While others happened early enough and got development so the relationship got fans like PepperTony. There was hate but there was more push back for shitting on them and more people spreading love for them so the negativity wasn't drowning out the good.

But MCU Sharon and MCU SteveSharon could more easily be treated as a universal dislike by the whole fandom. Even people who didnt really care about Steve ships would joke about SteveSharon being shitty. It was just like the thing to do.

This changed when calling out mysogny in fandom became more mainstream. However those 3 reasons especially 1 and 3 remain the same except for characters too not just ships. Its hard to avoid what you dont like in a fandom on websites like Tiktok Tumblr and Twitter ( especially Tiktok) . So if negative opinions of a character are popular it becomes harder to avoid.

And MCU Sharon is still not that popular due to how MCU handling her.

I cant even say its just a ship thing anymore the vitriol continues despite her not being in any ship nor is it indicated she will be with any major character in the future. And still so many people act like they will act like they will break into hives at just the prospect of her with Bucky or Sam.

Its not just a ew girl cooties thing these same people will love the idea of Bucky with Sams sister or Yelena or someone in the Dora Milaje. Sam doesn't even have that many popular ships it basically just Bucky rn but ive seen people who dont even like this ship just see it as a friendship and have no other ships for Sam but want him to have a love interest down the line turn up their noses at SharonSam.

I will say things are definetly better than the post CW era Sharon is less the MCU fandom punching bag though she still doesnt have that much love. However more people are critiquing the handling of her character instead of being frustrated at her existence. So while I do fully believe she more than any other character could become the fandom punching bag again i dont think it will be as bad as it was in the past.

Oh, it will never be as bad as it was in 2016. There was a Sharon RP blog that one day cleared out all the hate she got in her inbox. Absolutely wretched shit was sent to her, and you could feel the exhaustion in her clearing them out. And she posted it to remind everyone that hey, liking a character doesn't equal sending fucking death threats to a person.

But the problem is the shit that the character and the fans AND THE FUCKING ACTRESS got were not only seen by Marvel, they reacted in the worst way possible. They just justified fans' actions. So while it's not the worst it has been, jesus they could have done anything but that in response.

~Mod R