#i also liked the montrose magpies bc my best friend used to live on montrose road haha
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seriousbrat · 2 days ago
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100% agree on the last post! James is the norm in terms of teenage boys in his society, unfortunately that is not speaking much of that society considering he’s blackmailing his crush through doing harm to her friend and pantsing people. Which is honestly the problem, that specific behavior isn’t seen as an issue it’s the other stuff he does (his arrogance is what’s mostly focused on by the other characters). Looking at violence and gender in that society and how it functions, I really don’t think James is transgressing any of these norms but falling right into them. Which again is the problem. His behavior is a product of the culture which shaped him, that’s not an excuse, but it is an explanation.
Exactly. Like on a scale from Woke Feminist King to Inbetweener, I think James would have been decent enough, average, like I said, maybe even a little bit better than average because of his sense of 'honour' or whatever lol. But not that much.
Also, I know people might not agree with this but I do think the WW is less misogynistic than the Muggle. I think this is logical in a society where magical ability is what primarily contributes to raw labour rather than physical strength. Not to get Marxism 101 on everyone but if we look at the origins of patriarchy as based in the Agricultural Revolution, the division of labour following the emergence of private property (men work in fields, women produce men to work fields, men accumulate resources) is somewhat lessened if everyone can use magic equally, and when women can defend themselves very effectively against becoming the resources that are accumulated.
I say somewhat because yes, women (cis women, I don't think we can expect neolithic farmers or Engels to be trans inclusive haha) are still the ones who can give birth. Obviously for this reason (and also because of influence from the Muggle world) the WW is still a patriarchy and misogyny does still exist, just slightly less acutely than in the real world, and women have an easier time advancing within it.
(((In pureblood society, because they value bloodlines and heirs, there is undoubtedly more misogyny. But we know from pottermore that pureblood supremacy is a relatively recent advent, certainly much more recent than the Agricultural Revolution and the emergence of private property haha. I can imagine that misogyny grew stronger alongside pureblood supremacy quite naturally. This is why Narcissa acts more as a handmaids tale esque wife to Lucius than Lily or Tonks or even Molly and Fleur, who are still housewives themselves.)))
I think there's evidence of women generally faring a bit better in the WW, such as female Ministers long, loooong before Muggle women even had the vote, and culturally I think this is reflected too:
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From the intro to Beedle the Bard, which goes on to talk about 'The Warlock's Hairy Heart' in which the female character does have a passive role, so it's not like this is unheard of, just a bit less common. In 'The Fountain of Fair Fortune,' the aforementioned Asha, Altheda, and Amata are all much more useful and powerful and active characters than Sir Luckless who basically just follows them around. (I actually really like that story, and 'Hairy Heart' is delightfully creepy. Probably my faves.) James would have grown up with these stories.
Anyway this got VERY off track but for for this reason too, I think James and the other Marauders would probably be a little bit better than their Muggle equivalents, but also not perfect. Just like Ron, to whom it's perfectly normal that Hermione would be top in everything and that Gwenog Jones ('THE Gwenog Jones') would be someone to idolise, but he also displays misogyny such as when he calls Hermione a 'scarlet woman' lol. As do others. (For contrast, ask an average teen boy in our world to name 3 female football players. Yeah.)
And yes maybe some of it is jkr's learnt misogyny leaking through too, from growing up in a patriarchy along with the rest of us (and let's be objective about this, she has been a victim of it too, very much so.) But personally I think the WW still being misogynistic but slightly better than irl actually ends up being realistically relatable while also providing a level of escapism and aspiration for young girls. It doesn't feel that inconsistent to me but idk. Hermione easily outstripping her male peers in intelligence and talent, Ginny and other female Quidditch players being on the level of men and often better, and this just being accepted, was inspiring for me, anyway.
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warwovnds-blog · 7 years ago
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hi y’all! i have quite a few muses to introduce you to! i have a muse page that is partially done at the moment (the only bios/stat pages not done are dorian’s, leda’s and sebastian’s, and hopefully i’ll finish them by the end of the day), but i’ll give a super brief intro to each of my characters below! if you’re interested in plotting with any of my trashcan kids, please hmu bc i want to plot w/ all of you!
ainsley urquhart || 26 || arithmancer || neutral // death eaters (unwillingly)
ainsley basically peaced out from her family in her later years at hogwarts but has recently gained guardianship of her little brother upon her parents (mysterious) deaths? she’s actually v anti-DE but is trying her hardest to stay out of the war, though that doesn’t seem likely.
angelina johnson-weasley || 45 || semi retired quidditch pro || the order of the phoenix
angelina was a chaser and captain for the montrose magpies until her recent semi-retirement. she occasionally commentates or plays in charity games, but for the most part now her time is divided between her family and the upcoming war effort.
annette bardon || 17 || student (gryffindor) || the lightning insurgency
annette is one of gabby delacours children, a romantic who wears her heart on her sleeve but with a bit of a dramatic streak and an unpleasant temper once it’s eventually roused. very, very committed to the happiness of her friends and family. a bit of a meddler? a modern-day emma woodhouse, if you will.
declan hughes || 18 || floo tech || the order of the phoenix
dex is basically a lazy little genius, friendly enough but annoyingly snarky and a huge smartass most of the time. he’s got a good heart and is quite loyal to his friends, but isn’t the best at translating that into words. he’d rather be drinking or high than worrying about work or a career, tbh.
dorian shacklebolt || 25 || cursebreaker || the order of the phoenix
to quote hamilton: an american musical, dorian is the lancelot of the revolutionary set. a bit brash, a reputation for recklessness, and a strong moral compass, dorian is dealing with the death of his father as best he can while still trying to be there for everyone else in his life. he’s quite focused on avenging his father’s death right now, causing him to come down much harsher on any DEs he comes across.
hermione granger || 43 || head of the dmle || the order of the phoenix
1/3 of the infamous golden trio. let me get this out there: hermione is PISSED about a new war starting. she’s still grieving the loss of harry, one of her oldest and dearest friends, and she’s terrified of losing anyone else, particularly her children. still, she soldiers on like she always has, getting shit done. she is still the same brilliant, ruthless, lethal hermione that scarred a girl’s face in 5th year and left umbridge at the mercy of a centaur herd, though history has tried to rewrite her as the softer, least morally grey part of the trio----an underestimation she plans to use to her advantage to end this war however she can.
isaiah travers || 28 || deputy chief of the wizengamot || neutral
duty and obligation are a cornerstone of who isiah is as a person. dedicated to his family and the people he loves, he’ll do terrible things in the name of keeping them safe? isaiah allows his seemingly calm and passive facade to lull people into a false sense of security, making them think their actions will have no consequences, but be sure: if someone moves against him or his family, it’s not a question of if they’ll pay for it, but when.
jasper greyback || 21 || metalcharmer/welder || neutral
jasper was bitten at a young age and taken from his family, who were eventually murdered by fenrir in order to keep him in line. since then, jasper’s been wary of forming any sort of connection with anyone, for fear or what may happen to them, so he mostly keeps to himself, opposing fenrir when he can (and suffering for it).
leda krum || 17 || student (hufflepuff) || neutral
leda is a meta with a penchant for all things beautiful----her talent lies in charms and cosmotology of both the muggle and magical varieties. officially, she is a neutral side of the war, but can’t help but feel for the insurgency/order and wonder how she might be able to help them.
nadia zabini || 22 || unspeakable || neutral
how to describe nadia zabini? a terrifying force of a woman, nadia is smart, poised, and more than a bit lethal----in both a literal and figurative sense. raised primarily by her grandmother, nadia doesn’t really tolerate any sort of nonsense, and was well-known through hogwarts (and probably the ministry now, too) for giving someone a smackdown or two, whether it was truly warranted or not.
sebastian gamp || 17 || student (ravenclaw) || the double agents
sebastian is in some ways, a typical condescending ass who isn’t exactly out of place when you think of a ravenclaw’s perceived worst traits. he’s a smartass, a bit withdrawn but not afraid to offer colorful commentary when it amuses him. he joined up with the insurgency a while ago, and is seemingly devoted, but is actually being forced under threat to his family by the death eaters to join and gather information from them. his main target? lily luna potter.
valeria carrow || 17 || student (gryffindor) || death eaters
there is nothing about valeria carrow that is tame, tbh? short-tempered, spoiled, impulsive---but also passionate and bold, valeria does what she wants when she feels like it, is quick to anger or insult, and really, to some extent, will mess with people simply because she can?
xia pettigrew || 16 || student (gryffindor) || the lightning insurgency
xia does not enjoy living in the shadow of her surname, and despite her timid nature is doing her best to distance herself from the name her uncle peter made for himself. she isn’t sure why the sorting hat put her into gryffindor, as even the thought of confrontation makes her vaguely queasy, but she has a good heart, and plans to do whatever she can to make the world a better place.
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warwovnds-blog · 7 years ago
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hi y’all! i have quite a few muses to introduce you to! i have a muse page that is partially done at the moment (i was hoping to finish before opening but i dont think it’s going to happen), but i’ll give a super brief intro to each of my characters below! if you’re interested in plotting with any of my trashcan kids, please hmu bc i want to plot w/ all of you!
ainsley urquhart || 26 || arithmancer || neutral
ainsley basically peaced out from her family in her later years at hogwarts but has recently gained guardianship of her little brother upon her parents (mysterious) deaths? she’s actually v anti-DE but is trying her hardest to stay out of the war, though that doesn’t seem likely.
angelina johnson-weasley || 45 || semi retired quidditch pro || the order of the phoenix
angelina was a chaser and captain for the montrose magpies until her recent semi-retirement. she occasionally commentates or plays in charity games, but for the most part now her time is divided between her family and the upcoming war effort.
annette bardon || 17 || student (gryffindor) || the lightning insurgency
annette is one of gabby delacours children, a romantic who wears her heart on her sleeve but with a bit of a dramatic streak and an unpleasant temper once it’s eventually roused. very, very committed to the happiness of her friends and family. a bit of a meddler? a modern-day emma woodhouse, if you will.
declan hughes || 18 || floo tech || the order of the phoenix
dex is basically a lazy little genius, friendly enough but annoyingly snarky and a huge smartass most of the time. he’s got a good heart and is quite loyal to his friends, but isn’t the best at translating that into words. he’d rather be drinking or high than worrying about work or a career, tbh.
dorian shacklebolt || 25 || cursebreaker || the order of the phoenix
to quote hamilton: an american musical, dorian is the lancelot of the revolutionary set. a bit brash, a reputation for recklessness, and a strong moral compass, dorian is dealing with the death of his father as best he can while still trying to be there for everyone else in his life. he’s quite focused on avenging his father’s death right now, causing him to come down much harsher on any DEs he comes across.
hermione granger || 43 || head of the dmle || the order of the phoenix
1/3 of the infamous golden trio. let me get this out there: hermione is PISSED about a new war starting. she’s still grieving the loss of harry, one of her oldest and dearest friends, and she’s terrified of losing anyone else, particularly her children. still, she soldiers on like she always has, getting shit done. she is still the same brilliant, ruthless, lethal hermione that scarred a girl’s face in 5th year and left umbridge at the mercy of a centaur herd, though history has tried to rewrite her as the softer, least morally grey part of the trio----an underestimation she plans to use to her advantage to end this war however she can.
isaiah travers || 28 || deputy chief of the wizengamot || neutral
duty and obligation are a cornerstone of who isiah is as a person. dedicated to his family and the people he loves, he’ll do terrible things in the name of keeping them safe? isaiah allows his seemingly calm and passive facade to lull people into a false sense of security, making them think their actions will have no consequences, but be sure: if someone moves against him or his family, it’s not a question of if they’ll pay for it, but when.
jasper greyback || 21 || metalcharmer/welder || neutral
 jasper was bitten at a young age and taken from his family, who were eventually murdered by fenrir in order to keep him in line. since then, jasper’s been wary of forming any sort of connection with anyone, for fear or what may happen to them, so he mostly keeps to himself, opposing fenrir when he can (and suffering for it).
leda krum || 17 || student (hufflepuff) || neutral
leda is a meta with a penchant for all things beautiful----her talent lies in charms and cosmotology of both the muggle and magical varieties. officially, she is a neutral side of the war, but can’t help but feel for the insurgency/order and wonder how she might be able to help them.
nadia zabini || 22 || unspeakable || neutral
how to describe nadia zabini? a terrifying force of a woman, nadia is smart, poised, and more than a bit lethal----in both a literal and figurative sense. raised primarily by her grandmother, nadia doesn’t really tolerate any sort of nonsense, and was well-known through hogwarts (and probably the ministry now, too) for giving someone a smackdown or two, whether it was truly warranted or not.
valeria carrow || 17 || student (gryffindor) || death eaters
there is nothing about valeria carrow that is tame, tbh? short-tempered, spoiled, impulsive---but also passionate and bold, valeria does what she wants when she feels like it, is quick to anger or insult, and really, to some extent, will mess with people simply because she can? 
xia pettigrew || 16 || student (gryffindor) || the lightning insurgency
xia does not enjoy living in the shadow of her surname, and despite her timid nature is doing her best to distance herself from the name her uncle peter made for himself. she isn’t sure why the sorting hat put her into gryffindor, as even the thought of confrontation makes her vaguely queasy, but she has a good heart, and plans to do whatever she can to make the world a better place.
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