#i also don't think they're compatible and have multiple reasons i simply don't vibe with the ship

[findafight]

Genuinely think some folks need to remove how we, the audience, see characters and relationships from an outside perspective from how those characters actually interact. Like y'all ask for nuance and I'm telling you that just because Nancy has gone through trauma and absolutely deserves to be as messy and complicated and hurt as she wants, doesn't mean Robin wouldn't think twice about dating her?

It's not about whose fault it is or centering a male character, it's about how Robin, the character, would interpret and internalize the facts she knows. She has no idea what exactly Nancy has been through, like we have. She encouraged Steve and Nancy in S4 to get back together, she comforted him when Nancy went straight back to Jonathan. Robin's place as Steve's best friend, someone she trusts implicitly, the person she wants to combine with, puts Steve as an important aspect of her life!

It's not that she hates Nancy! It's that even though they broke up a year and a half ago, there's some unresolved or redeveloping feelings there for Steve. It's not that I think Steve could/would/should be hurt or angry about his best friend dating his ex. It's that, in my opinion, Robin, from what we see of her, doesn't seem inclined to date a friend's ex. It's about Robin, and her personality, and that means her friendship and love of Steve.

[dojae-huh]

Hi, I'm the same person from the TY&DY discussion 👋

Unfortunately, I have problems with my previous account 😭

I'd like to respond.☝️

"I can see how you can be confused, but you are mistaken. What TaeDo have is impossible to fake. They may not meet for 10 years and still maintain the bond. Yes, they sometimes brandish the friendship for entertainment, and Taeyong likes to use being before cameras to annoy Doyoung, but it’s just one part of their dynamic."

I partly agree, I think a big part of their friendship is for entertainment.

"You simply haven’t seen enough of the two. Their vlives, their trainee stories, their moments during award ceremonies and on shows. Taeyong was to Doyoung’s house in Guri (and we learnt about it years later), TaeDo were noticed by fans shopping multiple times. Doyoung searched for pictures of Tae’s tattoo of his deceased dog to gift Tae a custom-made golden pendant based on the drawing, and returned home from his vacation earlier because Tae was lonely in the dorms. It’s not fanservice."

I'm talking about recent events, that's why I showed you these screenshots as evidence.

These vlives, stories are from 90 years ago, not all friendships last forever, people, circumstances change, like I said before, they could've grown apart, that's normal.

For example, he doesn't follow his members on IG and said nothing about DY track or other solo activities, even tho he regularly posts.🤷‍♀️

"TaeDo were noticed by fans shopping multiple times."

So basically you're telling me, that TY&DY lied in that NCT vibe episode? They're not reliable source?👇👇👇

"As for “practiced how to say hello”, it’s Doyoung’s type of humour. TaeDo dynamic is “I hate him”, Tom&Jerry."

Ma'am..........

Your quote comes in handy.

"People see what they want to see and invent "explanations" to support their imagined scenarios and beliefs". - Dojae-huh

The call is coming from inside the house.

Show me precisely his "humour".

Let me repeat it again, because he hasn't seen TY in a long time, he said it in that episode, that's the reason. It's that simple.

Look at the screenshot below or watch the video again, at 15:30. 👇👇👇👇

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1i8JhNCCP7E&pp=ygUJTmN0IGRvcnJ5

"Real friendships are based on mutual support and understanding, not having parties and going to the movies. Those kind of “fun to hang out with” friends dissapear first when you are in a trouble"

"Fun to hang out with friends" is also part of the friendship. Who are you hanging out with, your teacher? You don't do any fun stuff with your friends!? That's why compatibility is so important.

I was referring to their 10+ years friendship where they've never hung out with just the two of them without the cameras is odd. It doesn't have to be partying, it can be at their own homes or restaurants, where they can talk about what they're up to.

And again... did TY post any support for DY solo concerts or other solo activities after August? If "Real friendships are based on mutual support" he should've posted something, right?

Btw I almost forgot, in the latest episode Tyong&Dorry, Dorry talked about HC 2x & how he's most comfortable going on trips with him, not his bff who sits next besides him? Probably his "humour" too, right? 🤔

The Cuckoo&Delulu dynamic duo.

I'm not "ma'am".

Again, I understand distrust for idol friendships. However, TaeDo is not the case of strictly co-workers or of cuddly trainees who grew up and stopped being as close as before.

TaeDo friendship was not created for entertainment, but it is demonstrated for entertainment from time to time. When Taeyong takes a picture of homemade food Doyoung cooked for him and suddenly brandishes his phone to show the picture to another neo to boast about his privileged position during their live it is not pre-planned fanservice. I guess Doyoung travelling 3 hours by speed train to Busan to support Tae during his filming, and later Tae travelling 6-7 hours by car the same distance to visit Do's filming location this time around was also done for fanservice.

Yes, friendships fall apart, I did mention it. To make a conclusion "they fell apart" you, as an observer, need to take a larger time period than 1 month.

What we know of this year: TaeDo discussed what it means to be a soloist. Taeyong was giving Doyoung advice. Doyoung made sure he watch Taeyong's solo concert's broadcast eventhough he was in Milan that day preparing for a fashion show. Doyoung mentioned Taeyong several times during his own concerts and on other occasions. During Tae's vlives, when Do appeared, Tae asked him to come to his home for drinks. Doyoung sat beside Taeyong during the sending off party, Tae was filming him. There are pictures of Do fondly touching Tae's buzzcut. Doyoung talked about how Taeyong calls him from the army and talks for 30 minutes straight (and it was said in passing, on in the way how he brings up Johhny deliberately). Nothing indicates they distanced from each other for real.

I told you DoTae were noticed shopping without cameras. And not all members even eat out with each other. They are idols. Being alone is truly rare, abroad they are accompanied by managers, and when they have a bit of time, they call non-nct friends to use the opportunity (because they live with neos or meet them at work).

On the screenshots you posted Doyoung said "It's not like we've never (went)", and that telling pout on Tae's face (he was making sure Do got the memo, and Do got it). Yes, they played their reply up for the cameras. The fact that they didn't have time to just hang around recently simply tells how busy they were.

In general, yes, they are not the type of friends to simply spend time together, Tae would like to, but Do doesn't have time (he has tv-shows to appear to), plus Tae is easily recogniseable, they need to go outside the city for it (which they did in 2021 (?), fans had to connect the dots by looking at their IG pictures from the same location, maybe Do mentioned their walk afterward, I don't remember already). TaeDo are each other's emotional pillars. Taeyong once compared himself with a rose and Doyoung to a glass case that protects him.

Verified celeb accs can hide who they follow. Jaehyun "doesn't follow". Doyoung deleted everyone twice. It is because of the scandals with Lucas and Taeil.

As the leader, Taeyong is constantly accused of everything. Like the latest wave of hate he got was about 127 participating in McDonalds ad. And he was already in the military. IG is for business. The acitvity of idols on official socmed doesn't always reflect what really happens in real life. Yuta doesn't care to congratulate the members publicly, and he is the one with 127 themed tattoo on his arm.

I showed "his humour" (Do's) in other posts. There is no point discussing TaeDo dynamics with you when you barely know them, which is well evident from the things you deem important to bring up as argumentation.

Doyoung has several close to him friends. And yes, he explained himself why Haechan is the most comfortable one to sightsee with. Taeyong is the princess in TaeDo dynamic, Doyoung needs to adjust to him (like plan shops Tae likes to visit).

"it can be at their own homes or restaurants, where they can talk about what they're up to".

*big sigh* I don't know if I should laugh, really. The number of times both TaeDo said how often they discuss 127, the future, and "deep talks" they have... Watch the vlives I linked you.

It is my final answer to you. I replied to you because you were polite enough with initial questions. However, I'm not invested in your personal opinion about TaeDo. As an "oldie" fan of 127 of 6,5 years I said you are wrong. You insist on your POV. It's up to you.

Looking at how you got yourself a second acc and the emojis you use, you like to argue. I get it, I'm the same. An argument for the sake of the argument. Whatever I say won't persuade you. If you want to see what TaeDo are about, first really study them. Learn their past, watch hours of their interactions, understand how they tic. All your wrong conslusions are based on "but it's common sense" and not knowing the nuances of the relationship in question.