#i also did a michael shelley and gerry and the gerry came out ok but i fucked up michaels hair so will probs redo the whole thing

[civilrats]

my new routine is that from 2-7 AM I pick an MCR album and listen to it on loop while I write or draw and so obviously this has resulted in a lot of Gerrys (and a half-assed Gertrude)

Bonus little angry goths:

[missmomentss]

Look I get that Gertrude gets a lot hate and people seem to ignore the trauma she goes through. We also have to see that her character goes through a lot but she’s also done a lot of shitty things. The problem I have with some people in this fandom is that they can’t see women as victims but not acknowledge that can they be imperfect people. Yes people victim blame the female characters a lot of the time but some people seem to victim blame the male characters in defence of the female characters getting shat on too.

I think we all have forgotten the the characters in the podcast are people that go through a lot trauma and do lot of bad decision making.

That being said Gertrude is a victim of circumstance just like Jon. That’s why they’re narrative parallels. Once again this fandom fails to notice that.

Gertrude motives are defendable but not her actions, of course she’s doing this for the greater good.That doesn’t mean she hasn’t done things wrong and endorsed in a lot of trauma on behalf of achieving what she wants which is to save the world.

She is no way a perfect perfect person and she’s also not a good with how she kept innocent people in the dark. Say it all you want that she did it to protect those people.She still once again did it to protect herself from anyone questioning her choses.Her decisions are understandable but that doesn’t mean she’s of the hook for lying to these people.

 Here’s a quick note: I understand that Elias does same thing too but once again he does this to just be completely malicious he doesn’t have understandable motives behind what he does. This means that,what Elias and Gertrude did to these people is still horrible,it’s just Gertrude’s motives are not out of malicious intent but are more out of rational intent.

Which is a bad but understandable thing that you listener can acknowledge. If people are mad on what she did to Gerry and Michael. Then let them be mad. It’s your choice rather you agree with that person or not.Gertrude sacrifice towards Michael was indeed cruel, once again you don’t have to go out of your way to favour one side over the other you can simply acknowledge that Gertrude had good intentions but her choices in making that decision towards Michael is still inexcusable, because she never bother to tell him and she also faked being weak in order to get him fall for her trick or pick someone that was more professional then he was.

As for the whole Melanie King thing. I’m going to once again say what I established in the first place she is a traumatize character but she makes bad decisions that hurt others just like Tim and Jon. Also I can’t really blame the people who are upset at Tim and Melanie for lashing out at John the way they did.These people probably have been in situations like that, does that mean they should be on to Melanie more than Tim no. it’s understandable with where some of these people are coming from. Let’s still knowledge of Melanie did go through a lot specially with the whole stranger situation and Elias implanting horrible memory in her mind.

Jon is not a perfect person too and in some cases he is deserving of the treatment he gets. I think this fandom sometimes has a habit of victim-blaming some male characters in favour to be equal with how the female characters get their treatment from the fandom.

Some examples I have seen mostly on TikTok:

I saw one. person say that Melanie had every right to lash at Jon the way she did which from what I can remember she threw something at him when came back from a 6 month coma or another take I saw. Is that she uses her anger to protect onto people. I want to establish is that her lashing out is understandable but her actions that lead with that are not.

Or one that have seen was someone saying Michael Shelley was to forcibly with his care of Gertrude or that he had no right to be angry with her. Once again Gertrude had an understandable reason to what her goal was but simply keeping your barely professional archival assistant in the dark about you where going do to him.Then pursuing to put on a façade of weakness in order to get him to do such a task for you is bad.(I know that Emma Harvey did it first and Gertrude had no idea that Michael was kept in the dark because her. I mean both women still did a bad thing)

I can see where some of what these people are come from but completely show that everyone is picking a side better suites there once motives.Instead of acknowledging that regardless these characters are people with trauma but make a bad decisions.

Now for the Georgie thing people don’t seem to look her side to and not see that she was right to push Jon away.Now I’m not to sure if the roles where reverse we would get the some outcome from the fandom. If not then that’s a problem.

Anyway I can’t tell/call everyone in the fandom sexist because it’s more on how relatable that character is to that individual(but yes this fandom has sexism but also people just seem to have a one sided perspective with the writing of these characters)Typically male characters are more relatable than female characters in certain kinds of media. For example with Gothic Literature or even Comic Books male characters are written in a perspective that the reader can relate to I’m not saying that female characters haven’t done the same thing to the readers too. It’s just typically that just the case with some of if not most forms of media.

There are some portions in this fandom that acknowledge the female characters as victims but also as not so good people, do write meta on them and write theories on them.It’s just they don’t get enough attention and that’s fine as long as you are writing it because you enjoy writing theories on this female characters.

I get that this probably isn’t the best take to some of y’all but it’s something that I feel like it needs to be said.

This is strictly from my perspective and it’s ok to disagree with me.