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how are u gonna be an atla fan but be “anti aang” mf did u watch the show lmao
#how r u gonna be a fan of a show called The Last Airbender#and then go on rant after rant abt how much u fucking HATE said airbender#like are u stupid or what#someone wasn’t paying attention to the show methinks !#can’t believe those mfs even exist#if ur an aang hater ur so fucking stupid lmao#not to get heated over a fictional 12 year old from a kids show but uhhhh ur wrong and have terrible judgement#but i digress. peace and love😍😇#atla#aang#anti aang#pro aang#iduna.txt
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Observations about A Single Pale Rose
I first want to say that I don’t mind the whole ‘Rose is Pink Diamond’ thing; there has been hints and build up for that for years now so I don't doubt for a moment that it was intended from the beginning that it was to be.
I have sat and thought about the episode, thought about it, re-watched older episodes and like many fans who don't know why they can't find to agree with the turn of events have come to this conclusion: The reason why A Single Pale Rose's twist doesn't feel right for many of us fans is because it doesn't make sense due to what was given to us throughout the series as of now and how it was presented.
Much like an athlete getting ready for the Olympics, I think the crew fell short when it came to some aspects to this reveal and then stumbled when it came to the twist, but before we get into that I want to talk about what WASN'T the crew's fault:
The time it took to get to this reveal.
As we know, SU is NATORIOUS for it's hiatuses, but what most people don't know is that Season 5 was originally part of Season 3, and is referred to as Season 3B by the crew. This was due to the Cartoon Network extending the series out longer, normally that's great right? More episodes of a great show, especially for a cartoon that's great, so why not just stick to the original plan then and air Season 3B as intended? Well...here's the thing: I think Steven Universe is like Avatar the Last Airbender, it has a ending in mind. The show is designed around and is following a timeline, so by making the crew extending the length of the show by an additional two years, they run the risk of ending the show early on, and that could have been bad, so they had no choice but to add, AND YES SOME OF IT IS, filler episodes. I think this caused Season's 3 hiatus.
There are always things we don't know what happened behind the scenes, but we do know of this one (it was mentioned in a podcast with the crew, I don't remember which one but here's a reddit link talking about “what is season 3B?” ”https://www.reddit.com/r/stevenuniverse/comments/6zbzn6/can_someone_explain_this_to_me_of_production/
Anyway onto what this whole thing is about. What doesn't make sense of the reveal. Here is what I'm going to go over in my post and go into detail on why it doesn't make sense, due to pre-established facts the crew has laid down or due to simple physics and logic behind them. Strap your butts in people, this is gonna be a long one
Why didn't Blue Diamond recognize Pink Diamond/Rose Quartz's voice while she was attacking the Cloud Arena?
Why didn't anyone tell Rose Quartz's gem stone wasn't a Rose Quartz gem? This especially goes hard against Peridot when she looked at Steven's gem and had mistook him for “Some kind of Quartz, right?”
Why does Pink Diamond's gem facets change when rotating (this one EVERYONE talks about but I'm going to only talk about it briefly)
Why doesn't Pink's Gem have a band on the “Normal” side of her gem, and if that's the case, then why does it suddenly get one after she poofs?
Why does her gem change size and color?
Why does her color pallet change, adding a new unused color to the Rose Quartz form when she shape-shifts to it, making it fundamentally impossible to do so due to established information.
Pink's inconsistent height throughout the show...in more ways than one
Why Didn't Blue recognize Pink's voice? We saw in Garnets' flashback in The Answer that Rose and Pearl attacked the Cloud Arena and Rose clearly called out to Blue herself. I don't think Garnet would lie to Steven, out of all the gems, she has been the most honest (and obviously will be the most devastated when she learns of Pink's deception) so I am taking this scene to be 100% truth, so again, why didn't Blue Diamond, who had close dealings with Pink Diamond not recognize her voice? It's not like she SAW Rose Quartz attacking, her back was turned away.
We also know that gems have unique voices, a voice to each gemstone type, and being Diamonds, they have even more chances of their voices being recognized as there are only four known Diamonds in the entire gem species...so again, unless Pink Diamond made all her RQ’s sound like her (and I don’t think she did, after all, she only became RQ to try to derail the colony and end it before killing off her PD identity forever. As a side note, I think we have heard a real RQ voice already...the little voice in the Zoo...funny how we thought that was PD.)
This is just one of the few plot holes that opened up when this reveal happened.
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This next one is could be missed, but when you REALLY think about it doesn't make sense when your whole species are gemstones...
How, how in the entire universe could another gem not tell one gemstone from another? I've heard an argument it was due to the facet face of the gems; that was how they could distinguish one gemstone type from another (because gemstones can vary from color to color) but we HAVE seen an amethyst with a square facet in the Gem Heist.
So...we can now debunk the facet recognition. Now let's look at gemstones, specifically Rose quartz and a Pink diamond. Let’s look at Rose Quartz gemstones:
I've included pictures of Rose quartz gemstones that have been cut and polished to look like diamonds, since that would be best used for this augment. Now let’s look at some Pink Diamonds:
Here we have RQ gemstones in rings and Pink diamonds while not in rings, and while they are beautiful we can see something quite obvious about RQ gems vs a Diamond gem: They're opaque. Even when they're highly polished and cut to match a diamond, they are more opaque than a regular diamond would be, and that can be spotted right away, even if it is embedded onto a body of a person.
With that said...HOW did Peridot, a CERTIFIED gem technician, who's previous job was gem creation (probably why she was sent to check on the cluster due to her vast KNOWLEDGE of gem), failed to recognized a quartz stone verses a Diamond stone? This is a HUGE plot hole that makes Peridot look stupid, and we know she isn't.
Pinks facets, they change when she transforms...they shouldn't. This has been talked over and over so I'm just going to say that it has been stated as fact that Gems' gemstone is their true self, and the one thing they can not change about themselves (put a pin in that, we'll be coming back to that shortly) so it's physically impossible for that to happen so here's my explanation:
It's due to the animation having to match the Rose Quartz Gem design to the Pink Diamond design and the animator shifted it like that...it is literally an inbetween frame (or tweening)of animation. It's not technically an animation error...but a model error because when they designed Pinks' gem they designed it in such a way to give us a “twist” that we wouldn't think she was RQ at all...but when the time came to pull off the deed it didn't make sense in animation so we got that...animation error looking thing instead. This was due to simple poor planning.
Okay now I'm going to talk about Gem Bands. Gems have bands on their gemstones, why? It actually hasn't been established as to why Gems have them, but I had thought it was to help the gem orientation when they were re-forming back into their forms. The only gemstone who didn't have one of these bands was Bismuth...due to obvious reasons.
So we know that NOT ALL GEMS have these rings, that is known fact. So when Pink's gem rotated, that could have worked if she didn't have a ring right? …...........right? WELL....It has already been proven in past episodes that not only does STEVEN'S gem (the RQ gem...Pink's gem) Have a ring on it, but in the VERY same episode when Rose-Pearl poofs Pink and hold's her gem in her hand...it suddenly has a band that wasn't seen on the RQ side....where it should have been visible in her Pink Diamond form....do you see the problem with the design yet? Where did it come from, then where did it go...where Cotton eye Joe, tell me?!?
This one is my biggest pet peeve of this whole thing...Pink's gem size and how it changes size and shape when she goes from being Pink Diamond to Rose Quarts (poofed form) Now, Pink is small for a Diamond, but she's still big for a common gem and her gemstone is still very big as seen on this height chart here:
But...you can already see an inconsistency with that height chart huh. Pink's gemstone is much larger than the Rose Quartz gemstone that we normally see, even if it was inverted to the RQ position. This would kinda...hurt Steven. An artist, ghostydraws already beat me to the punch with this beauty:
http://ghostydraws.tumblr.com/post/173727020602/revenge-of-the-steven-universe-proportions
So well, shoot how do you fix that? Well...The crew simply ignores it by literally having the gemstone SHRINK when Pink Diamond poofs to the point where it's handheld size.
I watched this episode on my break at work, and I face-palmed myself when this happened, and my coworker asked what did I watch to make me do this. ( I lied and said I was watching a Trump video to cover up the stupidity of my reaction )
Another thing that bothered me was whenever Pink is in the RQ form, she has a new color to her pallet, her skin tone. All the colors on the RQ form can be found (or similar shades) on her Pink Diamond form except the skin color on the RQ form and that can't be possible. We know that gems can only shape-shift to the color pallet of their original form. This has been proven time and time again...so why suddenly can Pink Diamond pull a new color out of thin air?
Can you see how...insulting this is too us as an long time audience? An audience who has been paying attention closely to the lore of the show only for the creators to suddenly throw out half of it for the sake of a twist? That isn't good writing. And if they go with “It was magic that did it” option...then I'll officially call Pink Diamond a Mary Sue and trust me, she was already very close to being one.
EDIT: I would also like to state that I don’t like the “It’s the crew’s usual animation inconsistencies” excuse. I don’t like that the crew has tattooed that stigma onto themselves and it has become an excuse for any errors outside of small animation errors. These guys have been working on the show for 5 years now, and had 5 years to get to this reveal...they have no excuses anymore...
Finally I want to briefly talk about that had me thinking that it was part of the problem but in retrospect.....maybe we'll get more answers...because it's raised more questions for me.
Pink's height inconstancy is really something...and it's not the usual SU Crew animation thing either. First the Moonbase chair...for Pink Diamond's chair...it's really small...even for her.
Then we got the flashback dream in Jungle moon and saw that she was the same height as Stevonnie:
Well, okay then, but then we got A Single Pale Rose and found out she's about twelve to fifteen feet tall...what? Then look at her chair in her palanquin...it's...a bit big for her, like she couldn’t sit back in that thing and not look like a kid sitting in a armchair.
then we look at her Zoo and see her bed is huge...where Blue or Yellow could comfortably lay down on? What is going on here? Was she getting bigger as she aged, is that what the Crew is implying? I think we haven't learned all there is about Pink Diamond or Diamonds in general yet...I'm actually kinda excited to find out more, as they are the most mysterious of gems we have.
We still have several unanswered questions of Rose/Pink herself: Why would she go off by herself? How did Lion came to be? Personally, I think she went off by herself to ‘take a break’ from the RQ form, as we know Gems can’t hold a shape-shifted form forever, and we know when reforming gems still look like themselves, but only modify their clothes and hair and to an extent limbs, but that can make them unstable if they do too much.
I’m not saying that the twist was bad, (well...it was, but for all the wrong reasons) but I hope that the crew does realize what they did to an extent to the show. I am looking forward to learning more about what is going to happen with this new information with PD, how everyone will react etc, perhaps they’ll question it too? Who knows? There is still soooo much to look forward to in the show.
#steven universe#su#Rebecca Sugar#a single pale rose#su critical#pearl steven universe#su pearl#su pink diamond#su criticism#su crystal gems#su diamond#su blue diamond#They really didn't think this through#it's a mess of an episode when you think about it
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Water. Earth. Fire. Air. Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked. Only the Avatar, master of all four elements, could stop them, but when the world needed him most, he vanished. A hundred years passed and my brother and I discovered the new Avatar, an airbender named Wang. And although his airbending skills are great, he has a lot to learn before he’s ready to save anyone. But I believe Wang can save the world
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andrew rannells could fucking deck me and i would thank him
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cuz i want a tight knit wangily, i want a chat that makes cat jmemes
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sometimes i read sentences that make me want to abandon the internet and become amish//
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“march of the voresettos” “march of the NOsettos”
maybe the real vore is the friends we made along the way
“NO VORE IN MY LOBBY” “NO NO IN MY NO”
“BACK FROM THE DAD™”
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“night guys im done w the vore” aren’t we all
“i’m gonNA MAKE THEM CRY WITH MY FISTS” chloe
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it comes with stickers and theres a whole section of the sticker sheet thats just andrew failing to do the jump on the album cover its so funny
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THEY FOUND US (chloe is cia)
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ok but like am i the only one who hates when you’re in class working on some personal writing and someone leans over like “wHAt R u wRiTING??????” like your eulogy if you don’t back the fuck up you soggy lampshade
people found out christian was straight and were upset
“That you hate this gc?” “that too but mainly that i live in sweden”
are you fucking kidding me?? i was so happy, this endless hell could finally be over, all the supernatural fans who i forgot to unfollow will stop posting and i would be free, i was planning a party for the last day it airs and we would pointedly not watch it, i was going to cry of happiness, and instead,, This
Sophie
there were loads of theatre references in shrek too i think that’s bdj’s kink
groff dick pokes your eyes out even with its unimpressive length
i will stab you both with a rusty metal dildo
headline: groffs dick causes world war 3
“CAUSE OF DEATH: DILDO TO THE HEAD”
i sold it for my will to live
hey jess? what the fuck
hold on babes just gotta * loud cracking as he snaps off his velcro dick* ok
you’re in the bedroom with wangdrew. things are getting heated. you’re ready for the dicking down. everything is perfect, and you’re in love. he pauses, and whispers in your ear, “hey babes, just one sec”. he pulls away, leaving you wanting. there is a loud, resounding cracking, tearing noise, and wangdrew is holding his disembodied dick is his hand. he smiles. you smile.
me: why will no one date me also me: dick me down, rannells
moisten my gams kate(legs)
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“Good mother fucking morning I am going to school wtf”
“THE DICKS CAME OUT OF NOWHERE”
“2 inches of nothing”
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hey what’s up selina reeviers, if you’re new here my name is selina reevie and i’m here in the wangdrew groupchat, i hope you’re having an awesome day, i hope you’re listening to musicals, i hope you’re *whips* whipping on the hetros and let’s GET BACK TO CRYING
Skinny beetles = Skaneateles
the only 2 genders *walks up to a straight couple* so which one of you is the jazz choir and which one is the gospel choir
Chloe: what’s a good free website Jess: google.com Solie: THE SARCASM
my whole brand is made off of andrew memes
rt! the wangdrew blog is basically an archive of all our mistakes
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Jizzer Brown
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ok but like am i the only one who hates when you’re in class working on some personal writing and someone leans over like “wHAt R u wRiTING??????” like your eulogy if you don’t back up you soggy lampshade
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tagged by the ever-so-amazing @waricka !! thank u bud <3
Relationship status: single as fuck lmao
Favorite color: green, brown, and purple!! <33
Pets: the two best and most adorkable doggies in the world :3c
Last song I listened to: R U Mine? by Arctic Monkeys <3
Favorite TV show: i dont watch that many tv shows these days?? since “twitch.tv” has tv in it im gonna just assume that counts tho and say uhm anyone i follow on there, since i basically live on the website these days :’D (tv show i will always watch tho: last airbender and legend of korra omfg)
First Fandom: if its like the first thing i was a huge fan of; teen titans! first fandom on this hell website that i was active in: danosaurs (??? uh danisnotonfire fandom lmao. cant believe we were called that but ya)
Hobbies: D&D, art, writing, video games, board games, coding, and baking!! <3
Books I’m currently reading: The Final Empire by Brandon Sanderson, The Murdstone Trilogy by Mal Peet, and How To Build A Girl by Caitlin Moran
i tag hMMM @ace-out, @thestarsarewaitingforyou, uh and anyone else who sees this and wants to do it lets just say i tagged you friend <3 (and the ones i actually tagged, only if you wanna buddies!)
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- Aang is absolutely not a static character. He makes decisions and choices that push him in a way that allows him to move beyond what people expect of him. He’s become far more mature, and better understands his own beliefs. The reason they were not fundamentally changed is because these adults and others pressure him to give up his core values which come from a genocided culture-if the only way you know of character development is them being forced to change their fundamental beliefs, you have a shit sense of what makes a dynamic character.
-You’re a Zutara shipper, so let me ask you: are you not clearly projecting onto Katara to live out your fantasy of being with an uwu hot boy older firebender anyways? (Whose characterization you undoubtedly butchered but that’s a different conversation)
-Aang is twelve and is struggling with some jealousy. He’s twelve and doesn’t like sea prunes. How very terrible. (And may I point out the hypocrisy of again, a Zutara shipper whining about Aang disrespecting Katara’s culture when Zuko shows up in THE FIRST EPISODE and threatens Katara’s entire village in exchange for Aang, even grabbing Kanna?)
-The comics are complete bullshit writing for every single character and everyone knows that.
-Lot to unpack here for sure. Let me address these things in order. Yes, Aang, a twelve-year-old kid, kisses Katara without her consent. And then immediately afterwards feels terrible and berates himself. On the Day of Black Sun, the kiss is far more reciprocal and Katara reacts positively. Yes, Aang, a twelve year old kid, has a crush on Katara and daydreams about her. How completely terrible. He’s not a “Nice Guy”, he’s a kid who is kind. A nice guy explicitly acts nice in order to “get” a girl. Aang is shown repeatedly to act ethical because of his own internal values and is kind to everyone, not just Katara. (though of course, you whined about them not being challenged, so maybe you’d prefer if he was an asshole?) The Kataang ship is centered on BOTH pov’s, shown notably in the Cave of Two Lovers, the end of the Fortune Teller, The Headband, to name a few. You just can’t project onto Katara. (And AGAIN, may I add that Zuko grabs Katara without her consent while she looks visibly frightened in the Waterbending Scroll, and uses her necklace-the single most important thing to her-to blackmail her.)
-Aang values his culture because it was fucking genocided. He doesn’t hold it above other cultures, but uses his own to make his own decisions. In fact, other characters hold their culture above his and dismiss his, notably Zuko. (Calling him naive, dismissing his values as “airbender preschool”.) Other adults, such as in the Avatar State, use blackmail and put Aang’s friends in danger to force him to use violence.
-Wow. A twelve-year old not wanting to train. How completely unusual for twelve-year-olds.
-Yes, Aang keeps his values from a culture that was genocided by the Fire Nation, and uses them to defeat the current leader of the Fire Nation. As previously established, you clearly think a twelve-year-old keeping the values he was raised with is bullshit however. Somehow you think a kid who is trying to preserve the way of life that was genocided is entitlement and privilege. I’d call that pretty damn racist, actually.
-A traumatized twelve-year old? Running away from horrifying problems that should not be a twelve-year old’s responsibility in the first place? Never. How inconceivable.
-LoK’s writing all-around, like the comics, is completely inconsistent with ATLA.
It seems the only advantage you’ve been given for being a snobby “OG” fan is that you’ve been stewing in the same fandom wank for years.
It also seems as if overall, you want Aang punished for being an Air Nomad and holding to those values. Which is pretty racist, to be honest.
how are u gonna be an atla fan but be “anti aang” mf did u watch the show lmao
#avatar the last airbender#how r u gonna be a fan of a show called the last airbender#and then go on rant after rant abt how much u fucking hate said airbender#someone wasn’t paying attention to the show methinks !#atla#aang#like god you’re an actual full grown adult#arguing a child should be punished for holding to his values#anti zutara
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