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fraternum-momentum · 1 year ago
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everytime a person likes that one photo of me that i posted when i was shitfaced, i die a little on the inside
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mudkips-secret-blog · 7 years ago
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ok im not gonna get super into the discourse (as in reblogging posts to argue with people, if people interact with this i’ll reply but i’m not seeking it out) but here are my thoughts on the thomas sanders thing. posting on this blog bc im worried about it causing discourse and it’s exhausting for that to be on my main where i can’t ignore it at all; if it’s on a sideblog i can ignore it until i’m mentally ready to address it. it should be noted i didn’t know much about thomas sanders before today; i’ve tried to gather as much info as possible from the tag but if i’m missing important info feel free to tell me. under a cut bc this was supposed to be short but it got Heckin Long just like EVERY POST I MAKE WHERE I ACTUALLY TRY TO SAY SOMETHING WHY AM I LIKE THIS
-regarding the nsfw art: he was not aware it was by a minor, and deleted it as soon as he was told. “he wouldn’t have done it if he hadn’t been called out” i’m pretty sure that was how he found out?? like he admitted he should have checked and apologized, but you guys are mad he didn’t do it until someone pointed it out to him??? that doesnt feel like him covering his ass it feels like he legit didn’t know until someone told him, he’s not omnipotent
-regarding antisemitism due to reblogging Hitler jokes: 1) it was 2 years ago 2) if the info i’ve seen is correct he deleted them after people had problems with them 3) I’ve seen at least one Jewish person say they didn’t think the jokes were that bad; I realize that doesn’t necessarily apply to all Jewish people, but it also shows that it’s not exactly a Huge Terrible Thing. also if it happened 2 years ago why is it only coming up now? obviously it wasn’t a big enough deal for me to hear about it until now so why is it such a big deal now? also people change over 2 years, i legit don’t think you can take something someone said 2 years ago and use it as an exact example of how they think now
-regarding being racist bc he likes hamilton: okay i’ve never heard of this in my life before today but apparently hamilton is racist because it paints slave owners in a positive light. i don’t want to speak over poc on this bc i’m white so if i’m wrong feel free to explain why to me, i really don’t want to do that, but the way i see it LMM handled it the best he could while addressing this subject? he never painted having slaves as a positive thing iirc and one of the main characters was really upfront about wanting to abolish slavery; maybe he could have made it more explicit but i don’t think he’s supporting slavery in any way? hamilton educated a lot of people who didn’t know much about the revolution on American history. a good story needs good guys and bad guys and unfortunately, if everyone who owned slaves was a bad guy in hamilton, it would be impossible to have a compelling story about the american revolution because all the main players are bad guys??? like the founding fathers did a great thing by starting America, you can’t ignore that just bc they also did shit things, they’re not great people obviously but they did some pretty amazing things that LMM wanted to talk about (also not everyone who likes hamilton has even considered the implications that these guys are slave owners so you can’t assume liking hamilton = supporting slavery)
-regarding his age: lmao why tf does that matter?? like people can interact with people where there’s a big age gap without it being creepy or malicious in any way, you’re not just confined to people within a certain age range of you i don’t understand why everyone is like “i can’t believe he’s 28 and most of his fanbase are minors” okay well why tf does it matter
-regarding the timing with his being an inclusionist: i don’t think it’s COMPLETELY about him saying he’s an inclusionist, but i do know that BOTH sides have this tendency to dig up old reasons to reject people as soon as they find out they’re not on their side, so i have a feeling some of the digging up of old posts and the hamilton thing might be about that, but i definitely don’t think it’s completely because of the inclusionist thing and people shouldn’t say it is. i think it’s just people blowing a couple incidents out of proportion because they don’t realize famous people are humans and make mistakes as well as not liking people disagreeing with them. honestly if some other famous person revealed they were an exclusionist inclusionists probably would do the same thing. not all of them ofc but a lot lets be honest here humans in general don’t like to be disagreed with
in summary, i think people are blowing this out of proportion. people seem to tend to expect famous people to be somehow more perfect and never make mistakes; newsflash! they’re human. and i think that thomas sanders has done his best to make as few mistakes as possible and when he does to apologize and fix them as best as he can, and people can’t accept that he made the mistakes in the first place. let him be a human being please, i doubt most people dissing him handle their mistakes as well as he does, i doubt most people in general do. i certainly don’t. he’s doing his best to be as unproblematic as possible but no one’s perfect so like. lay off a bit
also, if you’re one of the people asking “what did thomas sanders do?” search thomas sanders, sort by recent, you’ll have most of the info within a few minutes. that’s what i did except i searched for more than a few minutes, i wanted as much info as possible before posting about it
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