#hotd nettles

[kass-of-the-midlands]

In an attempt to make a feminist show, Hotd has Rhaenys be totally cool with her man cheating on her, has Baela refusing her mother’s claim, has Rhaena reduced to a nursemaid with little to no scenes with her twin sister, has Rhaenyra start a war for a throne because daddy said she could have it, has Alicent dithering around with no influence over the court that she’s ruled for over a decade, has Helaena offer up a necklace instead of her own life to try and save her children, also completely removes the fact that Helaena fell into complete despair and insanity due to this immense trauma, has Nettles–a commoner who learnt how to ride a dragon-erased, has Saera Snow-a major proponent of the Pact of Ice and Fire and an RLJ foreshadowing, not to mention an enriching factor to Cregan and Jace-removed, has Jeyne Arryn be totally cool siding with the man who murderered a fellow female liege, has—

[prettymuchteddy]

Ryan Condal waking up at 3 AM to find me at the foot of his bed like this:

Could write a whole essay about this but @bohemian-nights, @ride-thedragon , and @lilyofthevalley-11 already made great points about it

[grendelsmom]

There was already talk of Nettles being potentially cut at the beginning of the year, and now more leaks seemingly confirming that they gave her storyline to Rhaena. Which I think would show that hotd fundamentally doesn't understand the importance of Nettles or what she stands for.

I think hotd tries to question the systems of power and beliefs in Westeros, and for a lot of it, I think, they are posing interesting questions and takes. I love the whole gender/dragon thing Rhaenyra and Daemon have going on. I love the whole thing about feudalism and patriarchy as a circle in which you just can't win as a woman. And I think Nettles is a great way to add onto that.

The belief of Valyrian exceptionalism and the supposed importance of "blood purity" is already hinted on in season 1, especially with characters like Daemon. And Nettles being the anti-thesis to that is so good! And so interesting! Here is this girl, that is supposed to be nothing, that has no lineage or family to recommend her, no noble ancestry, that isn't supposed to be able to do the things she does, but does them anyway, because she is brave and clever.

Nettles' storyline isn't interesting just because she manages to tame Sheepstealer. It's interesting because she manages to tame Sheepstealer without it being "in her blood" or her "birthright". And therefore questioning everything we're told about Valyrian exceptionalism. That's why giving it to Rhaena falls short.

[whateverthought]

You know what, Lesbian Beam

Baela goes to Winterfell because Jacaerys has to participate in the War Room and has a Doomed by the Narritive love story with Sara Snow

Helaena helps in taking Harrenel for revenge against Daemon and respite from her grief, and as she meets Alys, realizes the woman in her visions is real, visions Alys has also had, and as their eyes meet they have a Soulmates First Meeting

Rhaena assists with the dragonseeds, meets this infuriating woman named Nettles, and goes with them looking for Aemond+Vhager then Enemies to Lovers/Opposites Attracts falls in love before running away together

Fuck you Ryan Condal and Fuck you Sara Hess, Stop Cutting Out Women

[thetullystark]

Daeron and Nettles

[fallenoftheromaempire]

House of the Dragon spoilers

As much as i am exited to see Nettles, i'm also deeply dreading it because i know it will break my heart. Especially if they show really how close Her and Daemon got.

And by that i mean that i suffer just thinking about the betrayal that Rhaenyra will feel, AND the fact that Nettles is so young and so clever and deserves anything better than Daemon. I truly hope she lived a good life in Esos.

Bottom line Fuck Daemon.

[waterwyne]

IS THIS A NETTLES REFERENCE???

[thesunfyre4446]

rhaenyra and helaena have more in common then nettles and rhaena.

[a-fire-of-ice]

they would not do this *delusional*

[princesssszzzz]

ASOIAF Fashion concepts

Nettles // Mother Nature Margaery T.// Poison Ivy

Cersei L // The Lion Queen Baela T. // Zodiac

Rhaena T. // Fairy Melisandre // Morticia Addams

Daenaera V // Mermaid Laena V // Calypso

[kass-of-the-midlands]

Bar minimum, I think anyone still taking HOTD and its creators seriously should just stop now that Nettles has been removed. Imagine adapting a book and just fucking erasing a whole entite character to make a pedophile look better. Imagine trying to insist you’re unbiased but pulling that kind of shit.

[pancake-stray-doggo]

Asking the big questions now feel free to bicker in the notes below

[qyburnsghost]

Not Hugh Hammer having a fucking wife, kids, house and side plot but they had no time for Nettles, who actually has a canon plot with a beginning, middle, and end and it involves one or more main characters so no extra time will be wasted like this fucking turn cloak.

[calliclassic]

I've been obsessed with the Dragonseeds for years. So hype to see them in action...

[scarareg]

HOTD idea of feminism is:

Do everything your father says and wishes you to do

If a man forced you into marriage, raped you, and then ignored you and your children, you have to be grateful and kind to him, praise him after his death and fullfil every wish he ever had, even if it at the expense of your or your family's well-being. If you don't do this, you are the worst kind of human being

Be ok with your husband cheating on you

Black female characters are interchangeable

If you grandpa offers you a position of power, you should reject it and simply be a man's wife

Delete or minimize the screentime for female characters who make a pedophile look like a bad person

A woman should not mourn her children. Moreover, she should help the man who ordered the killing of her children

Any lesbian/bisexual women who is not a white Targaryen princess should not have much screen time or even exist in the story

[ophelieverse]

Everything is reduced to misunderstandings,mistakes and accidents.No one is plotting to take/steal the power like it was supposed to.

Characters are completely changed or are the opposite of what they are in the book.The is no gray,only black and white,only good people or bad ones.

Different team stans are at each other’s throats.

Daemon and Aemond are plotting against the people they are most loyal to and they want to become kings by themselves.

Daeron is lost somewhere and it’s rumored to be a bastard.

Maelor and Nettles don’t exist.Their storylines were so important for characters like Daeron,Helaena,Daemon and Rhaenyra.

Apparently having dragon blood/being valyrian has no use to ride a dragon.

Other dragons,like Dreamfyre,are long forgotten.

There was no interaction,no relationship,not even a conversation between Viserys children.

Laenor simply running away,living his best life in Essos meanwhile his family started a civil war.Same as Daeron,who is trapped in Oldtwon while his siblings are destroying each other.Perfect sense.

Rumors about Alys engaging a relationship with Daemon instead that with Aemond.

Aegon and Criston Cole being the most hated in the fandom when in the book they were completely different,so much wasted potential.

Rhaenyra being paint as saint/mary sue,instead that the political idiot she actually is and the bad person she is(and that’s why i loved her in the book).

Alicent being a scheming little bitch,a Margaery 1.0,not a little scared girl that did what she did because of a misunderstanding.She wanted to usurp the throne,she wanted the power and she didn’t stopped in front of anything.

Rhaenicent scene in the Temple was a comic relief,because otherwise it make no sense if you think about how the characters were supposed to be.Just another proof of how “good” and “misunderstood” they are,acting like it’s the world that goes against them and that is not them that are keep doing a bullshit after another.

Helaena having no reaction after Blood and Cheese,but saying that things like this happen in the world.When in reality this is the event that will forever change her life,she will stop sleeping,bathing and eating.She won’t even look at her other children without feeling guilty for what happened.She literally goes insane with grief.

Rhaena bonding with the dragon that Nettles was supposed to have and that’s mean that we won’t probably see her real dragon:the pink baby Morning,that represents the hope for the dragons because in the dance they all died.

Ryan Condal if you plan to make a show about the Conquest,i beg you to not do it.I don’t want to see Visenya and Rhaenys being rivals and fight over Aegon,because i know this is what will happen!