#homestuck epilogue thoughts

[helmbarte]

[hamsterdads]

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[hartteart]

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[bolasmasivas]

i cant stop making them someone please euthanise me

[makelikesprinkles]

Dirk is hyper self controlling because he doesn't want anyone to see the "real" him, how "bad" of a person he is, so he keeps his social interactions on lockdown. Hal is antagonistic and controlling to all his friends because he is clinging onto that last shred of what makes him a "real" Dirk.

[thatlittledandere]

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[5-htagonist]

i dunno man i get disliking the epilogues and their subsequent narrative threads as pleasurable reading experiences but rather than appearing Only as a horrible terrible way for our beloved characters to develop but also um the heartbreak of that particular sight speaks to me. i dont know if it just has to do with my own experiences but while ive never had a friend turn into a fascist with political power i have seen people i care about develop in maladaptive and malignant ways. and ive seen people ive known since middle school turn into toxic and hurtful people. and ive seen my friends struggle with their relationships and expectations. ive seen friends become people i used to call friends, and ive seen them develop addictions. i have known people as a child and found out they died. i havent had a friend cuck her husbabydaddy with a clown but ive seen people change into people i cant call a friend anymore, and aside from the narrative commentary on having your OCs and brain baby mutilated and twisted by those who feel entitled to it, i think the heartbreak of seeing friends change in ways that were avoidable is what makes the epilogues hit for me. its not meant to be happy and gratifying, it is straight up horror.

[jojotier]

some more about the 'hbo's homestuck/cw's homestuck' au bc I can't stop thinking about it:

the cast of HBO's Homestuck are actually getting along pretty well! Mostly because the director went out of his way to cast actual 13-year-olds/6-sweep-olds. Mild Controversy Ensues

it's so important to me that HBO Karkat and HBO John's actors are besties. there's a half hour of outtakes uploaded to youtube where they're trying to get through the ATTENTION WORTHLESS HUMAN speech and HBO Karkat keeps giggling too much and breaking character.

(in an interview, HBO Karkat's actor, 6 sweep year old violet blood Risnel Aquinn, reveals that he doesn't have gills or properly formed fins, making him a seadweller who can't live as a seadweller. He talks about how important playing Karkat feels to him- how much his story inspired him, and how much he just hopes he's doing his favorite God justice as a mutant himself.)

meanwhile I cannot stress enough how much the cast of CW's Homestuck hate each other. Like they are ready to go at each other's throats and not even in a pitch way

CW Rose and CW Kanaya have been sending each other passive aggressive death threats by excusing it as ''method acting'' even though CW Rose got killed off for the seventh time in the 5th episode. Their 'romance' feels utterly loveless, like those cishet women who play lesbians on tv and kiss in the most passionless way possible. CW Kanaya may be conspiring to get Rose written out of the show. The showrunner thinks it's so funny he keeps egging it on.

CW Dave's actor has a Misha Collins-esque scandal where he accidentally comes out as a transman at a con and then two days later walks it back and comes out as a cisgender man. this somehow leads to the actual god of Time Dave revealing he's trans, causing mass chaos.

Ironically, CW Karkat is played by Troll Misha Collins

Nic Cage is there

[r0semultiverse]

The implication that Terezi is stronger/immune/indifferent to Dirk's narrative writing/reality-warping powers is interesting. 👀

I am so excited for the new writers to explore her character more.

Hopefully this also means we'll be seeing more classpect & god tier power exploration as well!

[nothingimportanttoseehere]

Idk, I actually thought the epilogues were kinda cool as someone who like's Hometuck for its use of artistic medium. Thought it was cool and parts of it gave us some of Homestuck's best prose (Candy 38).

[vrisoterica]

brat as homestuck characters .. im brat crazy it really is brat summer

[charliesinfern0]

sketch that i might color

[dukeofriven]

This Pride I want us all to take a minute to reflect on those brave but forgotten queer souls who worked on The Epilogues and Homestuck 2 with the goal of seeing Homestuck with queer content 'done right' and fucked it up so much worse than anyone thought humanly possible.

[sadevergreen]

i’m finally reading the fucking homestuck epilogues and IM SO ANGRY ABOUT THEIR EXISTENCE. some parts?

also uh spoilers for homestuck epilogues MEAT? anyways-

i’m ashamed to admit but a bit funny and good! the piece as a whole as i get further into it? FUCKING SUCKS AND IN NO WAY RESEMBLES THE CHARACTERS INTRODUCED????!?!!!?!! i cannot understand why they made jane into a supervillain fascist while mentioning that she is (but definitely was, not is) extremely kind and empathetic. this. does. not. make. sense. fuck dirk i don’t remember him being this big of a tool?? poor jake he’s just a himbo quit hurting him !!! love dave and karkat. they vibe im enjoying them. john is so depressed please get this boy into therapy and on some anti anxiety/ depression meds. WHY DID THEY DO THIS TO JADE?!!?!!! yes she grew up alone on an island, with little to no reference to social interaction, but she’s not stupid. she’s incredibly smart, i think SOME PART OF HER would’ve picked up that her advances were not reciprocated ?? or understood that 85% or whatever of her advances not being outright rejected did not mean feelings were reciprocated. maybe her doggy senses helped her to smell emotion !! IDFK! maybe she could calculate how many of her advances were being reciprocated!!! so i find it unlikely and in poor taste that she has no issues with adapting socially to some things, but is completely oblivious to others. it’s one thing if she was still and kid and oblivious socially? but she’s an extremely social person that is simultaneously incredibly scientifically minded. she would pick up on things. she would notice when things were off. god i’m upset about her characterization. she’s 23, she’s learned a lot! not just how to sleep around, she’s picked up some social stuff! and i’m fine with that part- if that’s the path they think fits her, then who am i to judge! i think it’s actually interesting in set up! but not how they substituted it for awareness. i think jade could’ve been given idk some cool marceline treatment! except werewolf? cool floaty werewolf chick that plays bass! DONT TELL ME SHE WOULDNT BE MAKING INCREDIBLE ADVANCES IN SCIENCE WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY SLAYING THE STAGE !!!!!

anyways those are mainly my thoughts as of rn; i’m on part 22? i think john being wildly depressed makes sense and has so much weight. i think my boys strugglin. i think jade could be couch surfin and dating around while she tours and studies; no time to keep a fulfilling relationship in between because she’s forced to never be in the same place for too long. i love rose and kanaya, i’m just honestly not sure how to categorize my thoughts on them at this point in the story though. dave and karkat? love you guys you’re making this readable. dirk? choke on a dick. jake? get that dick. jane? stop.

[spritestyle]

A half-formed thought I have about the relationships in homestuck is that 1). yes, Hussie does not deliver on the romance element in a satisfying way, and yet 2). he does write a bunch of very interesting potential. We have to fill in the gaps ourselves, which is annoying and unsatisfying, but he does set up the relationships in canon in such a way that it makes it extremely easy to do so. It isn’t that the romance is written badly so much as it isn’t really written at all. But there’s tons of chemistry between characters both implicitly and explicitly, and lots of romantic set-up, and a bunch of canon relationships, actually! But that’s the point at which Hussie kind of steps back and refuses to show us specifics or actually depict the things about the relationship that would make for a satisfying payoff. So instead we have this blank space around the relationships where we’re given a general sense of how things went but still have to imagine the details of how they actually played out. For me it is more unsatisfying than it is annoying. Homestuck in general tends to lampoon shipping culture and actively push up against/toy with that aspect of fandom in general. But I think it would only be made better and fuller and more complete if it actually embraced that aspect of storytelling

As of rn I have about 800 pages of HS left so I’ll update with more thoughts when I finish next week

[red-elric]

hmmm dont see many posts about it (beyond that one dave and rose convo and dirks whole thing) but. suicide is soooo deeply entrenched in the homestuck narrative its crazy. every character is dealing w it on some level and even tho some of them are trying more actively to live than others theyre all thinking about it all the time. the complete disregard for the gravity of death to the point of meaninglessness. the billion ways to come back to life so 'its not REALLY suicide haha' (except it IS because dave and terezi had a whole arc about how even though it was inevitable it still really fucking sucked to see a dead version of yourself or your friends). the way literal godhood is achieved through killing yourself; ultimate glorification of sucidal ideation. aradia's unsettling impact on the narrative and the characters for her radical insistence that shes ALIVE and STAYING that way. the way everyone else is super creeped out by her from that point on. like ouwghhh its everywhere!!!