#hiveswap friendsim trolls

[omegawott]

chahut from friendsim is a hope player which is endlessly fascinating to me so heres her as a thief of hope

[relaxxattack]

okay so i don't want to particularly call out these kinds of headcanons as bad. but they highlight a specific fandom trend ive seen for ages so here goes:

the extended zodiac is not alternian canon, nor zodiac.

i know that's brash for a lighthearted official personality quiz. but i've seen this zodiac presented frequently as the End All of trollsigns -- even claims that all trolls MUST derive from these 288. this is a complete misrepresentation of original canon.

first, obviously, the notion that your personality is determined by your caste is literally just what troll racism is, so the canocity of this test claims racism as truth. second of all, the traits are not even accurate to the trolls we DO see in canon- they're pulled from western zodiac.

the zodiac's also determined by lunar sway; nonsense because alternian trolls don't have lunar sway. it's a "moon a sburb player dreams on", and none of these trolls are sburb players. (i also feel like this should go for aspects, though that is a more controversial opinion)

so yeah, the extended zodiac is inaccurate and purely just fandom sburb personality-type nonsense. but does that really make it noncanon? plenty of stuff on alternia is nonsense.

except... homestuck trolls don't believe that signs are a zodiac that determine their personality.

not only is the idea of signs being related to some sort of personality zodiac never once mentioned by a troll, but the signs are frequently tied to other things that have nothing to do with personality. kanaya equivalents trollsigns to signatures, and later vriska explains the concept to john as being similar to a family crest, bemoaning that trolls have to do much more searching for clues or their ancestry than humans do. cronus also refers to his sign as his signature.

virska does use the phrasing that trolls who have the same sign "have a lot in common", but she also does this explicitly in the context of explaining to john how troll ancestry works, as hussie further notes in the commentary of that page that signs are included in physical/genetic characteristics trolls look to for ancestry clues. even hiveswap, which wants you to believe in the zodiac, concludes that signs are specific to troll surnames and that there are signs outside of it. multiple trolls in homestuck have signs that do not appear in the extended zodiac.

the extended zodiac quiz ≠ the alternian sign alphabet.

alternians wouldn't know what aspects or lunar sways are, nor have personalities equivilant to their signs (feferi and meenah are right there). deciding that trollsigns = personality test is a purely human concept that comes from our western zodiac.

but you know what alternians DO have?

THEY HAD THEIR OWN FUCKING CONSTELLATIONS AND ZODIAC. FROM THEIR OWN CREATORS. THIS WHOLE TIME.

where are the headcanons about troll's placements on THAT zodiac?

[mrthful]

footwork jumpstyllee i HAD to animate xeffy doing this…:

also PSSST… my comms are open.. you could get smth like this ^^^… wink wonk X;)

[insanityavril]

【Chixie Roixmr - This Is Alternia】

From 2018 to now, I finally finished the painting I'm sorry if anyone likes zebraman

[clownzt0wn]

this twitter drawing meme was bound to find me

[cottonflurry]

Hiveswap Act 1+2 charm designs: Yellow

x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x | x

[finichk]

So I'm done with this painting. I can't say that I'm more comfortable drawing human facial features than in “sprite” style, but it was worth a try. And yeah, I really like Mallek.

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MunK & MunY

[lazylynx404]

I saw him and immediately thought of him.

[brighter-star]

Some cute old Wanshi art I made of her hiding under Lanque's jacket <3

[kurohaai]

Volume of very good bois

[sickfires]

you know between tyzias being friends with daraya and dammek im surprised she doesn’t own a pair of spiked bracelets

that's what the oversized hoodie is for.

[nepetism]

more art of them

[mrthful]

your fantrolls are the shit, the designs are so on point. I want to squeeze them

tbhhh i just scribble stuff on a canvas till it looks good LMAO

using this as an excuse to post more of my trollsona.. heres sum xtras

[tudirkulosis]

old art i never posted bc i was worried ppl would misinterpret it :( but in honor of 4/13 have some moirails ◇ for the soul B)

[blue-atom]

listen carefully she's infodumping REAL important plot summaries