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zephyrine-gale · 1 year
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kiana bronya mei u will always be my favorite main trio
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endlesslytired · 1 year
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oathofkaslana · 5 months
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sixth anniversary chibi wallpapers
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mizu0xox0 · 3 months
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Self aware hsr characters that are an expy of HI3 characters
This might be ooc as I'm not 100% familiar with HI3 and HSR characters entirely also mentions of Bronya x Seele and Raiden Mei x Kiana of sorts
Self aware! Welt who has felt your presence before in his world, so the captain has decided to board on a train instead of a ship this time round and he gladly welcomes you and your presence even if you don't know that he knows you're out there
Self aware! Himeko who is not entirely sure why your presence felt so familiar and what do you mean you'll protect her at all cost so she doesn't die in this universe? It's touching but she doesn't get it.
Self aware! Luocha whos wondering who is this Otto Apocalypse or Void Archives that you keep mentioning who's similar to him. He's just a merchant doing business, he has no ill intent and why does Welt keep avoiding him and why do you agree with Welt actions from sending him that book? He 100% does not carry any malicious intent and is hurt by your actions (or is he? /J)
Self aware! Acheron who finds your presence familiar and soothing as if this emanator has met you before in a past life or another universe, even after all her suffering she just can't bring herself to hate you even if that means she's lost her Kiana
Self aware! Bronya who mentions to her mother that she finds this odd presence yet you don't feel malicious. Even her mother says you feel familiar of sorts, and why does she hear you being so excited upon seeing her? And why do you keep squealing whenever she's with Seele? What do you mean you ship them together?
Self aware! Seele who finds it irritating that there's this sudden presence that seems to follow the Trailblazer and the Astral Express and yet you feel familiar despite not knowing you. She slowly grows fond of your presence and starts getting used to you overtime. She still questions why you keep squealing whenever Bronya and her are together, what's a ship?
Self aware! Silverwolf who first felt your presence in Hertas Space station but doesn't mention anything because well she knows that you know her 'counterpart' from another game aka Haxxor Bunny and she doesn't blame you that it's fun to feel familiarity that she receives just because of her counterpart
Self aware! Sushang who doesn't really notice your presence till the blonde merchant, Luocha brings it up and she enjoys your presence and even though it's weird that you feel so familiar to her yet not to the general or her best friend Guinaifen
Self aware! Yanqing who's first instinct is to bring it up to the general who chuckles and think it must be his imaginative friend or something which does piss YangQing off but he can't be mad at either you or the general as first of all you didn't feel threatening and second of all you didn't even know he exists but he's a little on edge and takes time for him to get used to your presence
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catalinemorosetheblog · 5 months
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Boothill is funny to me because he has to be the only character in any Hoyo game whose design best emulates HI3’s weirdly sexualized early battlesuits because that man is functionally wearing less if not the same amount clothing as any of Kiana, Bronya, and Mei’s initial uniforms.
Like look at the man:
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He’s basically shirtless. His pants have slits on his hips. Nothing in his outfit makes sense and it’s amazing.
And the only reason I’m convinced he’s able to get away with any of this is because he quite literally does not have skin.
Can’t have skin ship if you don’t have flesh!
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hoyotournament · 6 months
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FINALS!!! Furina vs Kiana Kaslana
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(Propaganda under the cut)
Furina:
the girl who saved fontaine. condemned herself to a life of silent pain and suffering without any warning or preparation. she could confide in no one, seek out help from no one, all while bearing the weight of her entire nation on her shoulders. not only did her willpower save everyone in fontaine, but after the prophecy was averted, she was finally allowed to live a normal life.
Kiana Kaslana:
TLDR: she's kiana kaslana what do you MEAN!!!! kiana is a beautifully written character who fully encapsulates what hi3 is about and she's so full of love and guilt and (most importantly) hope. she's a clone who struggles with her own identity/inhumanity and traumas extending from when she was a young child and her guilt but is so so resilient and so so so so compassionate which ultimately reinforces her humanity :)
kiana's character IS the honkai impact thesis statement. i don't even mean it as in she's the literal main character and face of honkai i genuinely mean it when i say she just IS honkai impact. she reflects every single theme that they portray [hope over nihilism (chapter 25 || the flame chasers and just. the previous era in general), having agency over your identity and your own story (himeko, her being k423 and being so linked to sirin, everlasting flames || the kaslana household name honestly, bronya, fu hua, mei, sirin), believing in the humanity's inherent worth (chapter 25, arc city || elysia <- important since as a current era herrscher, she is a successor to elysia AND as kiana kaslana, she is a narrative parallel of elysia), having faith in the youth (himeko, kevin || the other flame chasers! notably su), etc.] her character being so reflective is also sooooo OUGH to think about when you view it as a reflection of honkai's 50,000 year samsara because kiana is a representation of these themes coming full circle (especially since many of these stretch back to the previous era and elysia).
SHE FEELS SO MUCH. she's so full of love and guilt. she clearly prioritizes others over herself and part of her arc is her learning to value and love herself as well!!! she would give herself for the world ten times over because she holds so much affection for humanity!! (WHILE FEELING DEHUMANIZED BECAUSE OF HER IDENTITY AS BOTH A HERRSCHER AND K423) and it's actively apart of her character's growth :'')
dear god her growth… okok. so i think first you have to understand that a lot of kiana's growth obviously coincides w general maturity as she grows from a teenager to a young adult. but aside from that i think people often forget that younger kiana is incredibly self sufficient since her father literally left her with little to no explanation when she was like. what 8? the insecurity she feels at that! the anger she has to navigate while also balancing it with her own feelings of missing and loving him. basically: kiana has struggled a lot w instability and is thus kinda good at navigating it. ex: she isnt shaken by nagazora and literally tries again and again and again to save mei and convince mei to let her help. the thing is this fucks w her a bit though because a big thing that she does as a means to cope w instability is avoiding them (not reflective of real life of course, but in the fictional hi3 this is partially represented in kiana's repressed memories about her actual origins as k423). she can not stand the realization that she killed himeko that she's so deep in denial and doesnt truly realize it until more than 10 chapters after himeko dies! she's so horrified with her being a herrscher she actively tries to not use her powers out of fear, even when it puts her in harms way (the chapter XI-EX CG!!!!!! her literally trying to kill herself!!) she literally runs away from her friends and loved ones because she's so scared of hurting them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! which is why her promise to himeko to not run away is so important!! because it addresses one of kiana's biggest flaws!!!!! this is especially important bc her refusal to continue her avoidance feeds into her arc during the herrscher of dominion chapters where she both faces her own guilt/identity and deliberately chooses perseverance and hope over nihilism!! she is hope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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magicalgirlsirin · 6 months
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it was rly funny when welt was trying to tell acheron how great kevin was and how it was thanks to him humanity survived. acheron responded no he died alone and it was other people who did that
Oh g-d actually I'm so esited because I get to powerlevel further
So like, the thing is that if you only have context with hi3 (summaries or otherwise), you're actually missing out on which version of Mei that Acheron is based on.
It's not hi3 Mei, it's ggz* Mei.
*Specifically before they rebooted ggz canon like 5 separate times to try and beat it into submission to align with hi3 canon more which I still don't agree with but that's not the point of this post.
And like, yes Acheron's trailer is functionally a hi3 recap, but in terms of emotion and meaning it's way closer to her ggz counterpart and what finality means there.
In hi3, the reveal is that finality is "time". In ggz, the reveal is that finality is the "end". In hi3, Kiana, Mei, and Bronya band together to overcome finality, which ultimately allows humanity more time to exist. In ggz, it's revealed that the future doesn't, will not, and has never once existed. Every action taken will always be preserved in the past, and the present is just a repeat of all those actions right back up to meeting finality.
In ggz, Kiana becomes finality, and kills Mei and Bronya.
In hi3, Kiana becomes finality, and overcomes the end with Mei and Bronya.
In hsr, Kevin becomes finality, but is defeated by Mei alone.
Because she hasn't actually overcome finality, Mei probably realized how futile her efforts were. Finality in hsr is Terminus, the aeon who is eternally moving backwards from the end that THEY have already witnessed... Similar to ggz's concepts about finality as the end.
(As a sidebar, Welt Yang didn't exist in ggz, it was just Welt Joyce who is wayyyy less noble as an AE leader.)
So like... neither Welt nor Acheron are wrong in their conversation. Kevin was a hero, but he was also the culmination of humanity's greatest threat. Acheron could not reach the other side, and she lost everything she cared about sacrificing her comforts to try and delay their ends just a little bit longer. She can't even doubt herself or even think to be stronger next time, because she knows she's the strongest (and loneliest) that she'll ever be. There is no next time, so there is no point in doing better.
That is the path of Nihility, succumbing to the pointlessness of existence. And there is no Kiana there to tell her to fight for all that's beautiful in the world, because she's forgotten how to see.
edit: to be clear, when I say that acheron is "based on" ggz mei, it's in regards to her relationship with finality, in case it wasn't clear enough from my post okay thanks bye
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pjsk-headcanons · 12 days
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hsr hcs and genshin hcs and zzz hcs but no hi3 hcs??? a travesty. i must amend that.
ichika n saki are diehard hi3 fans. they have matching kiamei icons on some social medias. ichika has somewhat lost interest in the game since pt.2 dropped but saki has only gotten more obsessed - she's a senadina stan. honami and shiho don't play, but ichika has kin-signed them yae sakura and fu hua. they've also made shnm go to cons with them in full cosplay, usually they cosplay kiamei/bronseele but one time saki dragged honami into cosplaying elysenti with her.
haruka is a casual player, she only really joined after the genshin impact collab awhile back tho. she's a keqing main. she also joined the official "keqingmains" theorycrafting discord and instead of submitting her talent screenshots to get the "keqing main" role, she sent in a screenshot of her fully levelled keqing skill tree. the mods found this fucking hysterical and she got a special role for it. no one knows that she's the haruka kiritani, and she'd rather keep it that way. she enjoys being a niche internet microcelebrity, thank you, she doesn't want it tainted by her being a international idol star. (after keqing was removed from being playable, she became an asuka main)
shizuku, being the turn based girly she is, also plays religiously. she fucking loves bronya, she hates how she was done dirty in pt.2. also a diehard bronseele stan. there are compilations on niconico of her rambling about bronseele for hours upon hours during mmj streams.
kohane plays, she's a herrscher of flamescion main out of spite. she was so excited when she got her from the free beginner thingy, but when she joined a coop raid and someone told her that she should "invest in another battlesuit" she took it personally. she's literally no.1 in the world on the leaderboard. THE hof main. is matching elymei pfps with an on niconico.
an is a herrscher of origin mei main, but she doesn't have herrscher of truth bronya or herrscher of finality kiana so her mei is mid. bc of this she also has herrscher of human: ego built and levelled.
toya... hoyonerd. beloved. he's a sixth serenade kallen main. he gets irrationally annoyed when kohane calls kallen kiana because like... she's not wrong by definition but No???
nene is a senti main. i will not elaborate
kanade plays, she loves how the character-switch stuff works, she mains hof/hot/hoo combo.
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e17omm · 1 year
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I would kinda like to make an AU that at first just seems like a complete AU with nothing shared from HI3's world outside of characters. Like, the Earth got rings and no moon, there's ancient ruins everywhere, new countries and an altered landscape. It could follow Kiana and Mei and Bronya as they are exploring and they stumble upon some ancient ruins and stuff.
But then reveal that, no, this is 'Era 3' of HI3 (with the 'PE' being Era 1, in this case) and that in this AU what happened was something catastrophic during the final battle in Era 2 (aka, the CE);
The Moon's velocity was reduced, breaking its stable orbit, and it slowly got pulled towards the Earth.
Yeah if that actually happened the Moon would not crash into the Earth. Once the Moon passes the Roche limit, it would disintigrate as the tidal forces applied to it literally squeezes the Moon until it breaks, and its pieces would form rings around the Earth. That is after massive volcano eruptions, earthquakes, and tides as high as skyscrapers has destroyed most of all lives on the Earth.
But you know, you could technically survive it in bunkers or submarines.
I kinda wanna write the CE main casts reactions to being found and awakened out of cryosleep that they entered while waiting for the apocalypse to pass.
Like, imagine going into cryosleep, and when you wake up there's no Moon in the sky, and Earth got rings, and "what do you mean Earth didn't always have rings?"
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(Yes I did just watch Kurzgesagt's video on this, shut up.)
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ashikarin · 2 years
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Ai-hyperion / Ai-Λ
Honestly, she's the biggest red flag in the story - and her colour palette is green. That's saying something.
A rant about Ai-Hyperion, lazy story writing, and an unneeded Deus Ex Machina.
I'm definitely not the first person to say this, but Ai-Hyperion was the worst thing they have ever introduced into the main story. She literally appeared like: "Hey! I'm Ai-chan, no I'm not the same one you know, I'm not gonna tell you where or when I came from, and the only information you're getting is that I come from this weird pseudotime crystal thing!"
And then we never get an explanation as to what this pseudotime crystal actually is beyond 'it allows me to see every possibility that could happen and therefore I am basically god!' The game itself pretty much is self-aware of the fact that Ai-hyperion's power scaling is utterly ridiculous and trivializes the problems the main cast have been facing – the problems that they fought to find an answer to – by simply going "haha fourth wall break haha captainverse haha hello captains of Honkai Impact 3rd!".
(The main cast also just... accepts it? Like with no question? I get Kiana being the Herrscher of Finality and having its authority but does that suddenly mean she's privy to the fourth wall that Ai-Hyperion broke down with a sledgehammer too? But that's a different complaint)
Her introduction was just a lazy (and literal, given the definition) deus ex machina that stemmed from the writers wanting to finish the first part of the story as quickly as possible for some reason (perhaps the release of Star Rail?) and also to connect the current story to the APHO continuity (despite its glaring flaws and plot holes). Maybe part of that was also them wanting to insert the player in as the 'captain'. But we already have Captainverse - which is canon to the Honkai continuum, as it's the captain travelling the sea of Quanta - and it's been established early on that the captain has no bearing on the story.
This view (the 'player' as an observer) is also compounded by the multiple different POVs we have. We view the story in the beginning through Kiana's eyes, then through Mei's in the Elysian Realm, Bronya's in the Sea of Quanta and the Deep, and various other characters throughout the story. Seele, the twins, the other flamechasers, and even Grey Serpent are just some examples of that. We view the story from their point of view, which makes the narrator lines themselves unreliable, as they're in the POV of another character. There was absolutely no need to integrate the player into the story in my opinion - the story has been perfectly enjoyable even without 'us'.
That brings me to the ending of HI3 pt 1. Ai's involvement with the captain breaking Kevin's shield is such a cop-out. Like the writers couldn't be fucked to end the story properly with the characters we had followed until now doing it themselves - despite Bronya saying that she could break the shield. Like maybe they wanted to demonstrate that Kevin was still stronger than the trio even after their powerup (eg. he had the power of finality and they didn't), they could have shown Finality picking Kiana and the power leaving Kevin for her. It'd be a more fitting ending than this. Or the baseball fight could have been a metaphorical battle of wills between the old generation of Kaslanas and the new. Kevin's will versus Kiana's hopes. HI3rd has always been about fighting for what's beautiful, not "hehe power of friendship deus ex machina".
It genuinely seems like they wanted to have their cake and eat it too? Like they wanted Kiana on the moon stuck with Finality radiation but also wanted her to get a happy ending? HI3rd writers, you can't have both at the same time! You were setting Honkai up for a sad ending! The previous arcs all but pointed to Kiana being sealed on the moon without a way to contact earth, but this is less of a seal and more of. a forced vacation. She can be visited in the future and she can video call with them? What did Fu Hua sacrifice herself for then? The Flamechasers? The entire PE? Even Kevin to an extent. All of them sacrificed so much just for a half-assed fourth-wall-breaking ending that invalidated all of their hard work. It's so anticlimactic no matter how you look at it. It's sweet, but it's a complete 180-whiplash difference from the tone of the chapters before.
tl;dr honkai part 1 ending writing was really fucking lazy, ai-chan was nothing more than a literal and figurative deus ex machina, and the writing in general took a nosedive in the ending. thank you for nothing, honkai writing team.
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Herrscher of Origin 2.0: The Purposeless of Mei’s Growth
Spoilers for 6.3 and 6.4. Talks of Anti-Elysium Everlasting & (anti) Elymei.
Well, here we are I guess. Welcome to the culmination of the disappointment and decline of the Honkai universe’s writing and execution.
Mei’s Growth Pre-Flamechaser - Was the most “grown” and self-sustaining in terms of maturity and power (because of HoT persona and their bond). However, she put restraints on herself, thereby making her weaker as time went by. She was unable to do anything because of the shackles she tied to herself. Eventually, this led to a break in her character (Lament of the Fallen) where she in turn sacrificed herself to save the light of her life. She became the concept she hated, and she full fucking sent that shit! That’s our girl! When it became too much, she had to make that decision, and she took it by the throat and made it her personality. It was even better because it made sense for her to finally, finally let go of her own conviction because the ends justified the means to her, for Kiana.
The Flamechaser Arc - Mei: *angry about girlfriend dying to terminal radiation and her sacrificing herself* Flamechasers: Okay but have you heard about our lord and savior Elysia? Elysia (EE version): 🌸 👼🏻 ✨ 🌈 “by the way, I’m god” - Elymei. Uhhhh-
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Moon Arc - Can we all just agree that this arc so far has been a complete flop (besides Seele, because I’m biased)? Seriously. Why do I need to become a PhD in astrophysics and electromagnetism to understand this chapter. Why dump exposition sentence after sentence that amounts to nothing but “I know you are but what am I?” It takes so much momentum out of this chapter that I scratch my head and think, “maybe I should just wait for all the chapter to be done”. It feels so padded out with philosophical nonsense pushed into a package already ready to burst. All we (at least here on Tumblr) wanted to see we’re our trio back together and kick Kevin’s ass. We’re simple people, I think. We don’t need our brains melted out with these lectures to enjoy a good, compelling story.
- Also, thanks for the retcon of Bronya no longer being a child soldier/assassin. No reason for that, so thanks for making the lore even more complicated for no reason.
- A shoutout to the translation team making me want to work for them instead because why do they not do quality assurance anymore.
- Open World is getting old. My phone shrieks in binary every time I have to load in to that stupid fucking god damn dog shit ass moon map. :)
Herrscher of Origin 2.0 - I said in an earlier post that this is a rare battlesuit that I highly dislike. Where do I even begin with this development for Mei? While I do love that Mei is the new HoO, as HI3 started with her, that’s really the only thing I actively enjoy with this development.
- Anything else about the battlesuit? I dislike. The “heavenly” theme of her suit, the lighter colors, the emphasis on Elysia, I actually hate it.
- And I hate to say I hate it, but I do. Elysia is supposed to be ka-put, gone, her and her comrades stories are O V E R. Let them rest for once.
- It feels like they’re trying to override Mei with Elysia, and it just doesn’t work. This entire shift in her personality, especially with the leaks of Mei saying she basically does not care if Kiana sacrifices herself, goes against the entire reason for her growth in the first fucking place!
- Why does Mei now have flower themes when it was never entirely relevant to her character? Bronya has technology and “coldness”, with a focus on blues, whites, and grays. This continues in her HoTr battlesuit. Kiana has her outgoing, tempered liveliness and hope, symbolized by whites, oranges, and blacks. Her symbol being the stars and fire actively fits her suits in at least some capacity through all of them. This has been her theme up to Flamescion. Now why I’m sitting here wondering why the hell Mei got this “heavenly angel” looking schtick that makes no sense. Her themes were red, black, purple, and white. And of course, lightning. This about-face turn around of punting these themes into the stratosphere isn’t growth, it’s a complete erasure of her journey and efforts to become stronger. What’s with the light blues and golds? The pinks of her eyes? Why flowers. Again? Also, the parallel between HoO Mei and Raiden Ei… how similar their battlesuits are. 🫠 end me. Mihoyo stop introducing Genshin to Honkai pleASE.
- Mei isn’t Elysia and she never will be. I need everyone to read this again. And another time. Mei might be the inheritor of the title, but Mei will not and can never be Elysia. To make Mei seem closer to Elysia is to erase everything Mei is and has done. Removing Mei’s autonomy in exchange for an Elysia cameo is downright ridiculous. Why can’t her bond with Kiana and Bronya be the trigger? Why does it have to lie in people long gone? Why can’t it be love? Love for humanity was the inspiration for Elysia, so why can’t it be love for her friends (and girlfriend)? Why, why, why does it have to always be Elysia?
- Mei’s growth has and will always be focused around learning from others. From Kiana saving her life at the very beginning of HI3, to learning the beauty and importance of life and sacrificing it with the FCs, Mei is always the mirror of another’s actions. To make Mei this… almost lassiez-faire to Kiana sacrificing herself is actually infuriating. They just got back together after half a year apart, where their parting almost meant killing each other, to now Kiana waving sacrificial-offering flags like a Naval officer, and Mei suddenly not caring anymore?! Just because you grow doesn’t mean you suddenly don’t care about things anymore! The beauty and anguish from Lament of the Fallen is due to the circumstance that Mei had no other choice but to leave to find a way to help Kiana. If she had to be the bad guy, she would be. So where the fuck does this “yeah I might’ve just reunited with my girlfriend after she tried to shoulder everything by herself, but now I couldn’t care less what she does” attitude come from.
A Little Ending Blurb I’m just, I’m so tired. After the Everlasting Flames Arc, I feel that the writing team is just blasting us to the end of this saga and not caring unless it’s a cool animation or battle scene. As someone who has been playing since global launch in 2018, it is more than just disappointing to see the quality nosedive to the level it’s at now. It’s, in my opinion, heartbreaking (as cringey/cheesy as it might sound). I’ve loved this game with so much passion and intrigue, it’s become a large point in my life. “Protect all that is beautiful in this world.” It’s served as a way to reflect on myself and my growth, especially compared to the girls who all have their threads of relatability and genuineness. I cherish these characters. I’ve laughed and I’ve most certainly cried at the art Mihoyo has created in the past that ripped out my heartstrings and played them like a harp. Honkai has really, truly touched my heart. It’s not something that a lot of media is able to do, but this one has, and it’s magical. It’s beautiful in its anguish and its sacrifices. It’s maddening in the way that it crawls underneath your skin with how human these characters are. But I hate how much it seems like this past year, that feeling has been pushed behind a curtain. Nothing seems earned or deserved or meaningful. Characters just do because they do, particularly in Mei’s case. She’s constantly ham-fisting her recollections of the Flamechasers, telling her memories to characters who’ve never heard, let alone cared, of simulations of a bygone era. Everyone’s just like, “Oh? Yeah? Mhm, sure.” And move about their next dialogue. There’s no real significance to her exposition, there’s no drive to explain what’s been happening on her end. And it sucks to see.
Sorry I’m ending it like this, but I’m frustrated. I’ll try and make another addition to this in a more eloquent way, but I just needed to get these thoughts out there.
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cloud-ya · 9 months
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Kind of hard for me to admit but I think I like the world of HSR a little more than HI3RD but I think HI3 has better characters. I think their character design peaked with Sirin and Senti and character writing for Mei and Fu Hua shoot up so much farther than I would have expected when I first started the game years ago.
Bronya isn't consistently amazing, especially when she's compared to Mei and Kiana, but I think she's so intriguing and interesting on her own which is a shock for me since I didn't really consider her much in the early Honkai story.
Ur so right in that HSR is like a mix of HI3RD and Genshin because I definitely feel that. And not just because of the inclusion of playable men (not salty...😒mostly) but because they sort of take a lot of design elements they have in Genshin and just give it a sort of Honkai spin that doesn't always work (they can be very busy and sometimes they're just plainly unattractive for my eyes.)
The trend of MCs in gacha games worry me a tiny bit because they consistently have the least amount of writing, which I guess works for a self insert, but it makes them feel disconnected from the story and only their for shipping purposes. Which, like, no hate. I'm not going to yuck anyone's yum, but it feels pointless to have a MC and the only thing that makes them intriguing is a mystery that you have to sink 120 hours into before you really get anywhere.
Belobog has felt like the story with the best pacing and most interesting cast of characters. The other worlds are pretty but don't really attract me the way Belobog did, which I guess is because Belobog had so many familiar faces in it that it felt like a better Post Honkai Odyssey.
I also feel like March 7th is a little too boring to be used as the mascot for the series. She's just a bit too plain and underdeveloped to capture me outside of her dynamic with MC and Dan Heng.
Anyways! Sorry this is a long bit of rambling but I've been trying to sort out how to feel about HSR and just needed a place for that ig. Orz 🫶🏼
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strwbmei · 1 year
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Ain't no way they're making a game where they've added Bronya and sooner or later Mei and not add Kiana too. She's been in Flyme2themoon, Zombiegal Kawaii, Houkai Gakuen 2 and Hi3 and technically even in Genshin too. Only game she hasn't been in so far is Tears of Themis and maybe ZZZ when it's released. Granted MHY, might decide to just not put her in Star Rail for whatever reason but I highly doubt it. Kiana has only ever been Sirin/Bianka's clone in Hi3. All iterations of Kiana in GGZ were the "real Kiana" as in the biological daughter of Siegfried and Cecilia, and she was still the cat-themed braided twintail-wearing Mei-obsessed Idiotka we all knew and love, while Sirin was her own entirely separate character. Hell, Kevin was originally a genderbent alternate universe version of Kiana in GGZ, who was of course also in love with his version of Mei.
Really?? Then it'd be very stupid of Hoyoverse to not add Kiana to HSR.
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oathofkaslana · 7 months
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tis’ i, crepe.. with a very, very, definitely important ask.!!!!!!!!
I was thinking about your bronya & tsaritsa posts earlier today,, and I was wondering if there’s any other characters you think may end up being (or. already are) hi3 expys too? lore/arc wise, or just by design :3
ohhhhhhh you opened up a large can of worms w this one.. ii start visibly vibrating w excitement
general criteria are like. matching voice actors, very similar designs, some overlapping similarities. ie: mei and ei both having things to do with origin, time-fuckery (kinda), having similar designs, both being named raiden, being associated w lightning, sword users, etc. mostly we look at lore for talking about alts :3
lore-wise/confirmed (ordered by nation):
sustainer of heavenly principles -> kiana kaslana (herrscher of the void) of course mhy couldnt go a game without mentioning their favorite child. both share voice actors and similar designs. i also think its really interesting knowing that sirin (whos basically kiana's herrscher persona atp) was the first herrscher of the current era that actively abided by the will of the honkai (this being that exists outside of the honkai universe) and how the sustainer of heavenly principles is likely apart of the primordial one's four shades <- which again. the primordial one and the heavenly principles are pretty certainly NOT from teyvat. images below (note: the upwards pointing ahoge, the eye colors, the yellow powers, the red color schemes between kiana's herrscher of flamescion battlesuit, etc. in order: hi3 kiana HoF, genshin, hi3 kiana HoV, genshin)
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venti -> wendy obvious one their names are similar (in chinese the first character of their name is the same and related to weather). they both have some control over the wind w venti being the archon of anemo and wendy being the herrscher of the wind. their designs are also similar if you look at their archon/herrscher forms. wendy's actually from ggz but i dont know enough about hr ggz counterpart to talk about her :( which sucks bc i heard shes written better and w more depth there. visual similarities below (take note: hair, wings, color scheme. in order: hi3, ggz, and genshin)
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lore-wise i do think its interesting how HI3 wendy struggles with a lack of freedom while venti is the archon of freedom. (wendy: is wheel-chair bound due to a procedure/experiment gone wrong because of her being a literal child soldier. + being kidnapped by both schicksal and ae + being a narrative parallel to bronya who notoriously struggles with freedom especially in the chapter we meet wendy in)
raiden ei and raiden makoto -> raiden mei also obvious. i dont know where to even begin here. their surnames being the same; both being associated to lightning and thunder; mei and ei being sword-users; even lil things about ei like the fact that she cant cook whlie mei can because mei has a kiana to cook for and ei doesnt!; mei being the herrscher of origin and raiden shogun's auto attacks being named origin; mei having a line about reforging kiana's swords when it breaks as a symbol of strength and raiden shogun's passive being related to leveling swords and polearms. even like story-wise, while i think they did a shitty job w ei, i can see the bits of mei they were going for! the divided identities w mei (the real gentle and compassionate her being represented w makoto, a cold and cruel facade of hers being the raiden shogun, and the in-between version of her that just tries so hard to maintain eternity and change fate as a means of grief being represented with ei). and see. did not include GGZ mei heree bc i dont know enough about her. visuals below (take note the eye color, hair, the red accents in ei's clothing. in order: HI3 mei HoT, HI3 APHO mei, genshin makoto, and genshin ei.)
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yae miko -> yae sakura also obvious w their names and designs asjdbjb. also both being mikos, narukami shrine being heavily associated w sakura blossoms, the fox and kitsune inspirations. and!! the medicine-food kiss in one of miko's books literally being something sakura did to kallen. they dont act similarly at all but i think thats part of what makes miko a successful expy. ei acts more like sakura than miko does! and the fact that their stories with losing their sisters and that spurring such intense grief within them is soooooo oughh.... i love eimiko from a multiverse perspective bc i think with it, it allows miko and sakura to be so so linked while also not being very similar, meaning we get more from miko's character if we know sakura but we dont need to know sakura to know about miko!!!! i also of course have to mention the grand narukami sakura tree and yae sakura's connection w sakura trees and grief.. the way the grand narukami's tree is a symbol of ei's grief for makoto AND the site where miko sends off the spirits of the youkai to rest :]. iirc, sakura's GGZ and HI3 lore are similar enough. images below (note: their hair, color palette, ears. in order: HI3, GGZ, genshin)
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nahida -> theresa the whitewashing w this one is so ugly it makes me so mad bc story-wise i actually think nahida is a successful theresa alt. i just hate that they used it as an excuse to whitewash her. like. theresa being a clone of kallen whos physical body can only age to 13 and nahida being a small splintered part of rukkhadevata..... nahida being locked up by the sages because they didnt respect her and otto keeping theresa cooped up both because he cared about her and didnt wnat her to get in his way......... nahida being the archon of wisdom and theresa being the principal of st freya......... EVEN LIKE. THE TIME BETWEEN RUKKHADEVATA & NAHIDA BEUNG THE SAME AS KALLEN & THERESA (500 YEARS).. and, of course, nahida's attempts at addressing the discrimination/inequality between the two sumeru regions being akin to theresa's attempts to right otto's wrongs after she becomes schicksal's overseer. also the religious imagery w theresa and kallen veing christian and nahida and rukkhadevata and both being underestimated for their young appearances. not including ggz theresa here. (below is theresa's verdant sky skin, the first battlesuit of hers we see, and nahida. after is kallen and then rukkhadevata. take note the color schemes, braids vs ponytails, height)
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al haitham -> su same as nahida it pisses me off so so much they whitewashed al haitham for this. but looking aside from the obvious visual similarities for a sec ok listen hear me out. su's buddhism and association w honkai's realm sumeru AND al haitham, of course, being from sumeru which is a nation heavily inspired by buddhism.... al haitham having connections to mirrors and light.. su literally keeping his eyes closed for the majority of the time......... both being rather quiet...... they do not act similarly though which i think serves them both well :] something abt su having such strong morals and convictions and literally being a fucking hero and carrying a lot of guilt in part because hes a healer who's lost so many while al haitham has a seemingly "uncaring" demeanor (not actually uncaring btw) which is something imparted onto him by his grandma.. visuals below (in order: HI3 su, genshin haitham)
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design-wise:
heres a few people have suggested but i just dont agree or theyre only linked through design.
lisa -> rita (fallen rosemary battlesuit especially)
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jean -> durandal/bianka
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kazuha -> jingwei fu hua
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young shenhe, xianyun -> azure empyrea fu hua i do not. get this one tbhes.
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theres also welt yang/joachim and zhongli but while i think theyre very fun to think about in tandem from a lore perspective, i really dont think zhonglis inspired by joachim. FUCK I CANT ADD ANY MORE PHOTOS.
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springspiritsummoning · 4 months
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hi im rex he/him heres some opinions on the silly gacha games
Genshin impact
status: up to date (minus a few story quests - i tend to do world quests first and leave story quests for when im bored/need something to do. these are: chiori, sigewinne and cyno pt 2)
fave characters: SHENHE, raiden, ayaka, yun jin, xinyan, xianyun, COLLEI, lynette, itto, kujou sara, clorinde, razor, amber, dehya, candace
ships: xinjin, collamber, candehya, clorivia, kokosara, beiguang, eimiko, jeanlisa, cheviori
Honkai Star Rail
status: up to date
fave characters: JINGLIU, BRONYA, acheron, black swan, serval, cocolia, clara, svarog, tingyun, gallagher, robin, sparkle, march 7th
fave ships: liubai, yukai, bronseele, himekaf, acheswan, servalia, starch
Honkai Impact 3rd
Status: In progress - up to elysian realm ch 2
Fave characters: BRONYA, kiana, mei, himeko, fu hua, senti, seele/vellonia, cocolia, raven, sirin
fave ships: BRONSEELE, KIAMEI, sakukallen sentihua
Note: I am a lesbian and I don't care about 99% of male characters and m/m or m/f ships, Im sorry but none of them really interest me except for my token meow meows . I dont really care about men at all in general and will block people for spamming tags with them/ships with men. sorry. nothing personnel kid
I also think every female character is a lesbian. and im right
i love evil women and hate evil men if you cant figure out why i like cocolia (not that i excuse her actions but i genuinely also think she has redeeming qualities, in both iterations but especially in hi3, for more cocolia thoughts PLS ask me i love her) but hate o***, thats not my problem
in short
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hotdyke-hardstyle · 1 year
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Embracing being a mean lesbian.
For no real reason other than it's fun. Anyway, I think the worst thing to come out of gen is the x reader fics and seeing it spread to honkai because there isn't any Honkai woman that is attracted to cishets,I'm sorry but timmy but Bronya doesn't fucking like u and HoV will just tell you to die.
it is always ethical to embrace being a mean lesbian 💖
and yeah, it's really weird to see people doing x reader fics for male readers because basically every woman in hi3 is a lesbian. I saw once on a video that someone replied to a comment calling kiana a lesbian with "that's not true. she could marry a man one day". bitch WHAT man? otto, kevin, and the other male flamechasers are dead, welt is too old for this shit, she doesn't know adam (who is gay), lyle is also gay, and siegfried is her dad. genuinely what fucking man is she going to marry. what don't these people understand when the character is canonically called a "lesbo" and calls mei her girlfriend and has official art where they get married. it's weird!!! and at some point, it's genuinely homophobic lmao
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