#hes the trope of that friend that just innocently says theyre in love with each other out loud because he thought it was obvious
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tomatorabbitsticker · 4 months ago
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Shoto is not beating the being a bakudeku shipper allegations
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chasingfictions · 2 years ago
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Ok i haven’t watched btvs in years but i miss spuffy do you have an episode list for all spuffy interactions
dilfjdjfdslkjfdskljfljkdsflkjls .kjfjkdsjklflkjdsflj insane question hi anon . i mean they interact for most of the show but im prepared to go insane here hi .
also if u want simply a compilation of every single spuffy moment ever , youtube user claireice has you covered . would also recommend @smellingwormholes my beloved's spuffy videos . gold standard of content
anyway here are all their episodes n a top moment of mine from each hi . you enabled me for this. we're in a fight. pls know what u've done to me.
2x03 "school hard" 'do we really need weapons for this' INTRICATE RITUALS
2x06 "halloween" -- it's spike being really normal about her 'baby likes to play' . like okay slut <3
2x07 "lie to me" -- my personal calculations show that based on the 1998 flashback in fool for love this is actually when he starts to fall in love with her . my brainworms are very powerful
2x10 "what's my line part 2" -- MUTUAL
2x13 "surprise" - the act of them standing with their respective lovers which will later be turned on its head in the finale . UMM. the REVERSALS.
2x14 "innocence" /made me sick to my stomach seeing you be the slayers lapdog/ lmao that did not age well
2x17 "passion" um. technically in the same room.
2x22 "becoming part 2" TEEHEEEEEE
3x08 "lovers walk" OR SPIKE FOR SOME REASON . pin HIM by the throat onto the kitchen counter
4x03 "harsh light of day" SORT OF A DOUBLE DATE. spuffy is a romcom this episode proves it. theyre serving when harry met sally
4x07 "the initiative" I KNOW A LOT OF GUYS WHO'D LIKE TO GET THEIR HANDS ON HER. @yoursummerfrost voice dru ducks what if the slayer got a giant taser. wouldnt that be fucked up
4x08 "pangs" YOU MADE A BEAR. theyre best friends
4x09 "something blue" . THE BLOOD OF THE INNOCENT .
4x11 "doomed" spike sitting on the armchair behind buffy this counts . spike standing too close to her in the high school . he said proximity he said 14 year old with a crush who doesnt know how to make a move so they r just . Staring n Hovering.
4x12 "a new man" DONT KNOW WHY SHE DIDNT COME . SAY GOODBYE. SHED A FEW TEARS.
4x13 "the i in team" he stands up and stares when she enters the room. victorianism jumping out
4x14 "goodbye iowa" no really buffy . why Is he here.
4x16 "who are you?" spike said hahahaha UNLESS . spike said i hate you that said if u wanted to fuck i am There in One Second No Jokes Please . Please..
4x17 "superstar" . hair touch. ummmm.
4x18 "where the wild things are" . he gets so close 2 saving her life . also spuffy fanfic trope where spuffy are the ones who get the sex ghosts makes this a spuffy episode by proxy .
4x19 "new moon rising" spike said all season HEY NOBODY SEND ME BACK TO THE INITIATIVE CAVES I SWEAR 2 GOD. adam said hey can u go back in with buffy. spike said TEHEEEE . spike said ok i will stand so close to her i will make sure of it. see 14 year old with a crush energy from above.
4x10: "the yoko factor" he spends the whole episode talking about her. inch resting.
4x21 "primeval" tiny interaction but it counts . they Look At Each Other Regard Each Other In The Little Initiative Control Room.
4x22 "restless" xander's dream counts .
5x02 "real me" I WAS TELLING YOU THE TRUTH I KNOW
5x03: "the replacement" . what does he think he's doing with that mannequin before the love reveal. WHAT.
5x04 "out of my mind" IF THAT'S WHAT I WANTED THEN I'D BE DATING SPIKE
5x05 "no place like home" . William.
5x06 "family" . james marsters face in training room teehee.
5x07 "fool for love" spicy Buffalo Wings I'm Feeling Peckish. <3333 ;)))) ;0000
5x08 "shadow" IVE KNOWN SINCE LAST NIGHT
5x09 "listening to fear" @summers-pratt voice . close up of hands confirms movie will turn gay.
5x10 "into the woods" they walk together i cant stress it enough. team power.
5x11 "triangle" HELLO BUFFY
5x12 "checkpoint" BE FUNNY IF THEY DID
5x13 "blood ties" buffy said ummmmm would you mind if i just..... confided in you and treated you as a coparent and confidant would you just
5x14 "crush" what else does buffy say about me you sleep during the day is this a date all that's left is you and a dead shell . moment where they look @ drusilla together in the cave. i think Thoughts About It
5x15 "i was made to love you" . hot tight little body pink lighting tongue out
5x17 "forever" . this counts. SHE WAS DECENT. spike loves his mother in law
5x18 "intervention". ON THE MOUTH
5x19 "tough love" me a few months ago voice . so wyd. scenario.
5x20 "spiral" SWORD CATCH. romance high romance.
5x21 "the weight of the world" little shake shake .
5x22 "the gift" oh. ohhhhh, i tried to pick a moment and then i had to lie down
6x01 "bargaining, part i" SHE'LL NEVER BE EXACTLY
6x02 "bargaining, part ii" this also counts.
6x03 "after life" MARRIAGE. they get married here. spuffy marriage plot.
6x04 "flooded" WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT FINANCES
6x05 "life serial" . date :)
6x06 "all the way" buffy shows up to ask him on a date :)
6x07 "once more with feeling" UMMMMMM
6x08 "tabula rasa" aYOU WERE THE ONE I LOOOVED . stay away from randy
6x09 "smashed" oh idk i dont think they interact in this one :)
6x10 "wrecked" stay im stuck here sun's out
6x11 "gone" . buffy's a great mum :)
6x12 "doublemeat palace" . i can get money
6x13 "dead things" IF YOU WANT I COULD--
6x14 "older and far away" when she escorts him out of the room :)) he's her date :)
6x15 "as you were" tell me you LOVE ME TELL ME YOU WANT ME. you know what i am youve always known
6x16 "hells bells". this dress is radioactive.
6x17 "normal again" PUT SOME ICE ON THE BACK OF HER NECK. SHE LIKES THAT
6x18 "entropy" . didnt take long did it.
6x19 "seeing red" . in all seriousness we've said everything that needs to be said here elsewhere and i think this episode should never have been made as it was. that said looking at its place in the season n its function in the larger soul arc , i think the conversation leading up to That Scene and also the 'things change if you make em' bit have a lot of Content that is worth chewing over
6x20 "villains" clem crypt moment
6x22 "grave" MAKE ME WHAT I WAS SO BUFFY CAN GET WHAT SHE DESERVES
7x01 "lessons" . face touch.
7x02 "beneath you" WHY DOES A MAN DO WHAT HE MUSNT FOR HER TO BE HERS
7x03 "same time same place". .... you went away youve been gone since....
7x04 "help" STAY HERE AND HELP ME BE QUIET. I THINK IT'S WORSE WHEN IM HERE.
7x05 "selfless" basement scene i will weep
7x06 "him" BAZOOKA WRESTLING
7x07 "conversations with dead people" 'he did love me. i didnt wanna be loved.' UM
7x08 "sleeper" 'i know' UM.
7x09 "never leave me" . I BELIEVE IN YOU SPIKE
7x10 "bring on the night" ummm i just think it's not a COINCIDENCE that when buffy is at her lowest and most ragged and desperate it's when her shadowself confidante boytoy is kidnapped n underground .
7x11 "showtime" . the eye contact . dont talk to me.
7x12 "potential" MOM AND DAD SAID IT'S TIME FOR SLAYER SCHOOL
7x13 "the killer in me" I KNEW IT. GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY.
7x14 "first date" hallway.
7x15 "get it done" . i want the spike that's dangerou.s the spike that tried to kill me when we met.
7x16 "storyteller". when they come into the room together :) "someone has to agree with me. Spike????"
7x17 "lies my parents told me" that's her SPOUSE.
7x18 "dirty girls" . jealous buffy said this is My Vampire.
7x19 "empty places" they said ummmm if u separate me from my lover i will riot.
7x20 "touched" . IVE SEEN YOUR KINDNESS AND YOUR STRENGHT IVE SEEN THE BEST AND THE WORST OF YOU.
7x21 "end of days" . I JUST TOLD YOU IT DID.
7x22 "chosen" hey fellas what if you spent what you assumed to be your last three nights on earth with your soulmate . wht if 'i love you'. what if total shadow self reconcilation. what if fire hands. ummm. FELLAS.
anon i hope youre happy now that youve killed me <3
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homieswithhades · 4 years ago
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why steve rogers returning to the past was wrong
disclaimer: im clearly a stucky enthusiast, but please, do not be thrown off by that. i admit, there may be undertones of bias because of that in the following, but i did my best with trying to lay out the facts and draw logical conclusions, so do please give me a chance. also, i may have accidentaly omitted some moments and some quotes may not be 100% word for word, as my memory lowkey sucks. ALSO this is NOT a peggy hate post!! i think shes a dope and underrated character and quite frankly she was done dirty. but i also definitely h8 the trope of badass woman falls for the hero.
first and foremost, every sane person knows endgame was complete and utter bullshit when dealing with steves character, so this post will be more for you to maybe show (and hopefully convince) some stubborn friend or family member. nice, concise (not) and including proof from the movies (+a few tweets and stucky undertones, if u dont fw that i respect it but bucky is an integral part to steves character regardless of how u interpret their relationship) here is why steves character development was thrown away at the end of endgame.
let us begin at looking at the cap trilogy.
in ca:tfa it should be noted that steve had no one to return to in the 40s, except bucky. i believe steves relationship with peggy was no where near as developed as it should have been to elicit him returning exclusively for her. as we are aware, steves driving force has absolutely always been bucky. bucky was there for steve after his parents died, when he was sick, and always protected him from whatever trouble he got himself into. "until the end of the line" right? steves relationship with peggy was forced and short lived, literally, we're talking a matter of months here. i need to keep emphasising the important disparity between bucky and peggy, as it is absolutely key in this whole argument. steve dropped everything and went against every order just to even attempt to save bucky. even the slightest chance of him surviving being captured was enough for steve to break into a hydra camp and free the 107th division. steve even had the chance to capture zola, one of the main villains and masterminds of the war, but again, steve prioritised bucky. when theyre trying to escape the exploding hydra camp, the exchange between steve and bucky is critical. steve says "go! get out of here!" as all he wanted was bucky escaping safely. he put bucky's life over his own (this wasnt the first time he did this, nor the last) but bucky rooted himself to the spot, and yelled back "no, not without you!". they both escaped safely as we know, and then steve gathers the howling commandos to take down the red skull. bucky then falls off the train, nd steve blames himself for his death, even visibly crying over it twice. steves morals went from "i dont wanna kill anyone. i dont like bullies, i dont care where theyre from" before buckys death, to "i wont stop until all of hydra are dead or captured" after. stuff happens and steve defeats the red skull and is now in control of the flying ship with the bombs. he connects the comms with peggy and she tries to convince him theres another way to disarm the ship. steve was so dedicated at that point he didnt even want to hear it. he didnt even attempt to do anything to ensure his survival. this alone proves, peggy was not important enough to him to return to.
next is ca:tws. The stevebucky movie. in the museum, peggy confirms that steve saved the man from the 107th division who eventually became her husband (steve was never in the 107th, just to clarify) i believe her husbands name was daniel sousa (as revealed in the marvels agents of shield show) steve then finds out peggy is alive and talks to her. she, in short, tells him she's lived her life, and it was his turn to live his in the time hes in. the "my best girl" line was unnecessary and out of place; again, steve barely knew her. again, shit goes down, and steve finds out the winter soldier is bucky and immediately drops everything, and becomes dead set on saving him. not killing, not imprisoning, but saving him. no matter the cost. "he saw me, and he didnt even know me" "hes not the kind you save, hes the kind you stop. he won't recognise you" "he will." god, steve KNEW bucky would recognise him. regardless of the brainwashing, steve managed to break through the barrier hydra fought so hard to drill into buckys mind. nothing ever broke him out of that state exept for steve. "im not gonna fight you, youre my friend." "youre my mission" "then finish it. cos im with you till the end of the line." [[good fucking lord let me break out of my essay-esque semi professional format here and just say how fucking heartbreaking those lines are. oh my god. read them, over and over until it hits you.]] steve shows us again, that he is willing to not only die for bucky, but literally die by his hand. he would let bucky kill him. he'd dropped his shield. he didnt fight back. steve always, always, ALWAYS got up and fought back. always. exept that time. the time bucky could have killed him. that scene is the essence of "im with you till the end of the line" because then, it was true. it was true because steve was okay with dying at buckys mercy. theres a difference between sacrificing yourself for the greater good (steve going into the ice), willing to die for someone (steve risking his life multiple times in attempts to save bucky) and finally, being willing to let someone kill you, because you love and trust them so much (hellicarier scene). the difference between peggy and bucky's relationship to steve is that steve may be willing to die for either, but only willing to be killed by one. not to mention, bucky pulled steve from the river. he recognised him. steve broke through 70 years of brainwashing with such impact it literally drove bucky away from hydra out of his own free will.
in between ca:tws and ca:cw its confirmed (im p sure sam says it) that him and steve looked for bucky for two. years. even off screen, bucky was steves priority.
im going to squeeze in 2 points from from age of ultron here, for chronology's sake:
steves worst nightmare, as portayed in the movie, is LITERALLY going back to the 40s and being stuck there (with peggy too??lmfao) and also the quote "family, stability, the man who wanted all that went in the ice 75 years ago. i think another one came out." objectively confirms that steve isn't the man he used to be, and doesnt want to return to the past. aou may have sucked, but that doesn't mean the character development should be thrown away.
ca:cw. hoo boy. steve went against 117 countries and half of his closest friends and colleagues because he believed bucky was innocent of the bombing of the un conference. god, steve quite literally, did everything to defend and protect bucky. though i shall acknowledge that steve did attend peggy's funeral, however, there was no real connotations there other than the fact he was mourning her death (understabdibly so). steve then proceeds to protect bucky for 2 hours 27 mins and 41 seconds to the point where they escape together to siberia after the airport fight. "i dont know if im worth all this steve" "what you did all those years... it wasnt you. you didnt have a choice." "i know. but i did it" again, absolutely heartbreaking quotes if you read it a couple of times and truly understand the meaning of them. steve somewhat indirectly tells bucky yes, yes he is worth all of this. otherwise, he wouldn't be doing it. a quote to support that would be "for the longest time, i always did what i thought was right." (disclaimer this is not a direct quote i deadass couldnt find it to save my life, i belive steve said it at some point during civil war or tws, but the point is, bucky is the only thing that could have shaken steves morals so intensely.) and finally, the most important part of cw, the fight at the end with tony. bucky and steve constantly protected each other. steve kept fighting because he was fighting for bucky. to keep him safe from tony and the world. he got up, time and time again. "i can do this all day." the fact that he said that to tony, some people consider them the closest of friends, proves again, a million times over, bucky is more important to steve than literally anything else, INCLUDING his shield. his mantle. he dropped it and left it like it was nothing, because his priority was bucky. as always.
theres not much to discuss for infinity war other than their hug whicg was honestly just adorable.
mmmmm endgame. i will not go into how much i hate that movie because it would be a rant quintuple the length of this one. in the support group, steve dead ass fucking says "you gotta move on. you gotta move on" and that sentiment was literally forgotten at the end. my main point for endgame is this. people tend to tell me, the reason steve abandoned bucky and went back to be with peggy is because he knew that he was finally safe. :/. if you had half a braincell youd know that's not true. the steve we know, never would have left bucky for good, ESPECIALLY after the "dont do anything stupid until i get back" exchange [[god i want to beat the shit out of the r*ssos]] mostly because, bucky had fucking no one in the time he was living in!!! no family, no friends and most heartbreakingly, no one he could trust. (yes sam was there but were just seeing their friendship develop now in tfatws, all that wasnt there in endgame) and secondly, what made steve think bucky was entirely safe??? half of the worlds population just suddenly reappeared, which as we see now, there were massive consequences for that. i simply believe steve is not that stupid. steve going back was disrespectful not only to his character, but to bucky AND peggy. most importantly, the steve we've been watching since 2011 would NEVER abandon bucky, no matter how safe he thought he was (he visited him frequently in wakanda, the safest place on the planet arguably ffs) especially for such a dumbass and quite frankly, nonsensical reason as going back to be with peggy, who clearly stated to him she moved on, and so should he (which he did. idk endgame writers prolly didnt watch the previous movies :/) its not even debatable. bucky is more important to steve than peggy. even in terms of screentime.
now allow some tweets to speak for me, this one being the absolute most important one:
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ladies and gentlefolk, all of the stuff ive said can be summarised in that last line. "it would be contrary to who he is."
heres some more:
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and now finally, id like to briefly mention steve and tfatws, so beware of spoilers (writing this as of ep 4 coming out; praying it doesn't age badly)
bucky mentions steve, unprompted, fucking constantly. he clearly isnt over steve leaving, and im hoping that gets acknowledged and talked out in the show.
in conclusion, tl:dr, steve shouldn't have returned to the past and stayed there, it is contrary to who he is, as shown to us through his trilogy and other appearances in the mcu. not to mention the timeline bullshit in endgame makes zero sense in the first place.
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n3cklaced · 3 years ago
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          𝗵𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗰𝗮𝗻𝗼𝗻  [  gryffindor  quidditch  team  ]
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          disclaimer:  long  post  so  under  the  cut  are  some  headcanons  about  how  i’ve  pictured  katie’s  dynamic  with  the  other  members  of  the  og  gryffindor  quidditch  team  for  like  the  past  decade.  (  i  had  a  big  soft  spot  for  lighthearted  hogwarts  era  weasley  twin  fanfics  back  in  the  day  which  ofc  meant  the  squad  of  the  story  was  them,  the  chaser  trio,  and  lee  generally.  im  still  obsessed  it’s  chill  don’t  judge  me  ).
          if  u  write  any  of  these  characters  and
          vibe  w  these  headcanons?  awesome  feel  free  to  come  be  my  best  friend  and  we  can  gush
          don’t  vibe  w  these  headcanons?  awesome  they’re  fully  j  headcanons  that  have  roots  in  my  10-year-old  brain  i  won’t  be  offended  come  be  my  best  friend  and  feel  free  to  share  ur  thoughts  i’d  love  to  hear  and  i’d  love  to  plot  <3  
          ok  without  further  adieu  
          harry  :  she  has  A  LOT  of  very  platonic  love  for  harry.  they  started  on  the  team  the  same  year,  the  two  youngest  and  newest  players.  she  obviously  KNEW  who  harry  potter  was  and  hadn’t  started  coming  out  of  her  shell  quite  yet,  so  she  was  definitely  pretty  quiet  around  harry  just  bc  what  do  u  say  to  the  11  year  old  boy  the  entire  community  lauded  the  savior  of  the  wizarding  world?  and  harry’s  harry  so  they  probably  just  had  sort  of  an  understanding  of  each  other.  as  she  comes  out  of  her  shell  more  (  very  much  thanks  to  the  big  personalities  on  the  team  ),  and  with  as  much  time  as  the  team  spent  together  during  practice,  they  def  interacted  a  lot  more  and  become  much  more  friendly.  katie  definitely  sees  him  as  a  younger  brother  and  dreads  his  annual  end  of  term  brushes  with  death.
          the  weasley  twins  :  the  major  players  in  bringing  katie  out  of  her  shell.  again  with  as  much  time  as  the  team  spends  together  and  as  much  trust  and  synergy  is  required  between  the  chasers  and  beaters  to  work  as  well  as  a  team  as  they  do,  theyre  definitely  really  good  friends.  plus  we  can’t  forget  the  katie  bell  defense  squad  (link).  while  she  had  good  relationships  with  both  twins,  i  definitely  think  she  tended  to  gravitate  more  towards  george.  the  best  way  to  explain  the  difference  between  the  vibes  is  probably  …  if  u  put  katie  and  george  together  they’re  probably  being  menaces  at  each  other  but  if  u  put  katie  and  fred  together  they’re  probably  being  menaces  to  the  general  public.  katie  takes  fred’s  death  so  hard  it’s  one  of  the  big  reasons  she  just  ups  and  leaves  for  a  year  because  she  doesn’t  know  how  she  can  face  george  without  shattering  completely  and  she’d  never  do  anything  to  make  him  feel  worse  than  she’s  sure  he  does  so  she  doesn’t  even  want  to  risk  it.  she  feels  the  guiltiest  about  abandoning  him  out  of  everyone  and  he’s  the  first  person  she  tracks  down  when  she  returns  to  england.
          alicia  &  angelina  :  most  definitely  a  power  trio.  probably  didn’t  know  each  other  really  until  katie  became  a  chaser.  not  to  sound  like  a  broken  record  but  there’s  no  way  for  them  to  have  not  bonded  spending  all  their  time  in  practice  together  and  working  so  well  together.  i  think  alicia  and  angelina  also  helped  bring  katie  out  of  her  shell  a  lot.  i  imagine  they  sort  of  just  adopted  katie  into  their  little  squad  with  the  twins  and  lee.  they’re  katie’s  best  friends  and  she’s  heartbroken  having  to  do  hogwarts  without  them  her  seventh  year  (  and  then  again  her  repeat  year  ).  never  forget  them  catching  lockheart’s  cloak  together  and  fangirling  with  the  twins  and  wood  laughing  at  them.
          oliver  wood  :  oh  oliver  wood.  cap’n  her  cap’n.  katie  loves  quidditch  as  a  sport  just  as  much  as  oliver.  (  where  they  differ  is  katie  ultimately  wasn’t  cut  out  to  go  pro.  it  was  a  dream  come  true  in  a  way,  but  it  didn’t  live  up  to  what  she  had  expected.  maybe  it  was  the  timing  and  her  mental  health  just  wasn’t  up  for  it  or  maybe  it  was  just  nostalgia  for  innocence  and  friendship  but  it  just  never  stacked  up  to  her  hogwarts  quidditch  career  with  the  og  team.  )  but  back  to  oliver.  she  probably  had  a  little  crush  on  him  in  her  shy  baby  second  year  days  but  that  definitely  went  away  after  the  first  morning  practice  of  her  third  year.  she  and  oliver  could’ve  bonded  over  being  massive  quidditch  fans  and  she  loves  picking  his  brain  about  plays  and  pro  games.  (  these  dorky  ass  quidditch  chats  set  katie  up  perfectly  to  be  captain  and  she’s  actually  offered  the  position  her  seventh  year  but  she  turns  it  down  and  never  mentions  it  to  anyone.  she’s  too  nervous  about  passing  her  newts  -  especially  potions  -  while  also  having  a  solid  last  season  for  recruiters.  she  didn’t  want  the  extra  stress  of  being  captain  to  impact  her  game.  this  ends  up  working  out  since  she  spends  six  months  of  the  term  in  st  mungo’s  anyway  ).  as  much  as  she’ll  make  jokes  about  his  quidditch  obsession,  she  really  respects  oliver  as  a  leader,  friend,  and  person.  she  looks  up  to  him  and  cares  about  him  and  views  him  as  like  an  older  brother  figure.  (  quidditch  team  family  of  choice  trope  thx  ).  
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red-elric · 5 years ago
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so ive read fruits basket like twenty times, and over the last couple of years i noticed that, each time, i was drawn more and more to the characters of kimi and momiji, and identified with them in a way that was really confusing to me because i didnt really think i *actually* had a very similar personality to either of them? (discord friends may disagree but, well, this whole post is going to be about people and characters who change up their personality to be more likable.) i got all introspective about it and finally came to a conclusion about their characters that i subconsciously knew already: the key similarity between the two of them and myself is the way we very carefully layer subtle personality masks for ourselves to protect ourselves and to seem more approachable and likable without actually being vulnerable to other people. (other characters in furuba do this a lot too--key examples that come to mind are tohru, kagura, and yuki--but i care more about momiji and kimi so this is about them.)
to clarify a bit what i mean by this, ill start with a personal example. ive always been pretty good at remembering people’s names, especially if i think theyre cool and want to become friends with them, but i noticed around middle school or high school that people subconsciously find it intimidating/stalkerish if you know their name and they cant remember yours, especially if youve only met once. on the other hand, if they *do* remember your name, and you admit to not remembering theirs, they feel empowered and sympathetic to your situation; and if neither of you remember the other’s name, you have a moment of solidarity that can lead to a more relaxed relationship. so, i started pretending to have a manageable amount of trouble remembering the names of people i wanted to be friends with. the first two or three times that i meet someone, at some point i will use “clarifying their name” as a conversation starter, ie: “you’re....[], right?” or “is it []?” this is a small effect of a pattern of behavior i tend to follow: feigning incompetence to gain trust and camaraderie. is it manipulative? absolutely, but harmlessly so. its directly derived from my own social anxieties, but its a relatively healthy way to feel more connected with my peers and to stop feeling ostracized by people who resent me for being “smarter” than them--something i struggled with a lot in my youth. momiji and kimi dont put up the *same* masks as myself, but they are both rather adept at maintaining their own masks, and are both incredibly socially perceptive in the same way that i am: they analyze people’s reactions to their behavior and sculpt themselves to get the reaction they want.
lets take a look at what this means for kimi. surface level, kimi seems pretty cookie cutter--sure, shes a little chaotic, but she fits quite nicely into the femme fatale/dumb blonde trope (even though shes not blonde). but did you know that shes actually at the top of her class? its subtle, but to me its always been obvious that shes actually incredibly intelligent and constantly manipulating people to suit her needs. there are easy examples of this, of course: flirting with a teacher to get a new whiteboard, anyone? but there’s one scene that’s always spoken volumes to me about her character, and that’s the one-off joke where kakeru starts to say some “secret” about her, clearly joking, and she immediately shuts him down by cutting him off with “don’t say unnecessary things!” and elbowing him in the side, all while still smiling cheerfully. the subtlety of this is that, with her reaction, she’s actually imitating their audience: yuki. it’s yuki she doesn’t want to know about whatever kakeru knows, so she shuts down kakeru in a way we’ve seen yuki yell at kakeru whenever kakeru makes idiotic jokes. the physical attack, the angry smile, accusing kakeru of saying something annoying, but that doesnt really matter; none of these are particularly characteristic to kimi, she causes as much chaos as kakeru on a good day, but they’re incredibly recognizable to yuki. her reaction is familiar to yuki, and it invokes an assumption that kakeru is making a lame joke, not trying to reveal one of her deepest, darkest secrets, and it works because yuki would react completely differently if kakeru tried to tell someone about *his* secrets. yuki doesnt pursue the subject further, kakeru bounces back easily and doesnt give it a second thought, and kimi is safe. so, we can tentatively say that kimi has a habit of reflecting other’s expectations to hide her true self.
now, is this one scene enough on its own to prove this idea? of course not. however, when we view her actions as a whole we start to see a pattern. we see several instances where kakeru will say something stupid and kimi will listen, encourage it, or say something just as stupid back; it’s only when he tries to reveal something about *her* that she shuts him down. we see subtle signs of genuine anger when he tries to reveal her secret: the overly violent jab, the tensed vein/angry eyebrows, etc--not very characteristic for happy-go-lucky, flirtatious kimi. and, of course, we have several examples of how she manipulates a) men into buying things for her, granting her favors, leaving their girlfriends for her, etc; and b) women into feeling inferior to her, feeling aggravated with her, and thinking she’s incredibly troublesome but knowing that they can’t argue with the men about it. overall, its not a far stretch at all to think she’s manipulating everyone around her to avoid revealing information about her true self: a proud, intelligent woman who enjoys causing chaos, but is also very manipulative and controlling to the people around her and hates being vulnerable.
momiji is in some ways similar, and in other ways very very different. most people--especially characters in the story with him--tend to put momiji in this “sweet, innocent child” box. it’s not just his height--his fashion, mannerisms, outlook on life, etc are all very reminiscent of someone much younger than he is, and people tend to *treat* him like he’s much younger than he is. even if they know intellectually that yes, momiji is significantly older than he appears, it’s very easy for the older sohmas to treat him as a troublesome but still loved younger sibling--someone to be taken care of, not taken too seriously, someone lovable. i’ve seen several people point out that part of *why* momiji does this is because he subconsciously feels that hes not allowed to act like an older sibling (to momo), so he acts as a younger sibling in an effort to get a similar sort of familial bond without overstepping the boundaries that his family instilled in his mind, and i agree. i believe momiji has a habit of feigning youth to more easily bond with the people he loves. his childish actions and behavior make him easier to deal with, and also give him a little more leeway to do things that would normally frowned upon if he appeared older, ex: sleeping in a bed with tohru, wearing a girl’s uniform top to school, taking any chance he can get to be physically affectionate with people, indulging in sweets and candy, etc.
two things draw momiji’s true personality out of its shell: his growth spurt, forcing people to acknowledge his actual age, and the breaking of his curse. late game momiji, to me, has always seemed bitter, tired, and sarcastic, as opposed to the sweet, energetic, and sincere front he’d put on for most of the series, which is very interesting to me. of course, you’d normally *expect* someone who’s gone through as much as momiji to *be* bitter, tired, sarcastic, etc; however, when he puts his child-like mask on, it’s easy to pretend that he’s this loving, saintly child who bears no ill will towards anyone, who can be knocked to hell and back and still stand back up to smile again. and i do think it’s true that momiji has an incredible capacity for forgiveness and love, but there’s also no denying that he has a limit, and we can see that during his first conversation with akito after his curse breaks. this, i think, is the most raw, true representation of momiji in the whole story; momiji has lost his link with the family he made for himself in the zodiac, he’s been physically forced to grow out of his persona, he’s finally seeing that his primary abuser is really not so powerful after all, and he’s forced to finally confront the fact that, while his curse, the thing that caused most of the troubles in his life, is broken, the impacts it already had on his life won’t magically go away. momiji in this scene seems completely disconnected from akito, who is still caught up in the curse, still desperately trying to hold everything together; in his lowest moment, we can finally see momiji, not as an all-forgiving saint, but as someone who just wants to start over. he’s not happy that his curse ended; id even go as far to say that momiji, out of every zodiac, is the one who most wishes it was still around, for the bond that it gave him with the other zodiacs and as something he could pin the blame on for his family struggles. which is why it is so sad to me that his was among the first to break.
now, yall probably know by now that i am a momimi bitch, so lets talk about them together. most of the people i see shipping them--and i fully admit, this is how i started shipping them--simply just say “same energy,” make a few cute headcanons about how they’d use each other for clout, and call it a day. this is perfectly fine. however, here at Overthinking It Inc., we take it a few steps deeper. personally, i have a hard time getting invested in a ship unless i can see how the characters compliment each other, how they help each other grow, and how they could genuinely enjoy each other’s company enough to pursue a romantic relationship. it took a little bit of obsessive extrapolating, but ive finally figured out just *how well* momiji and kimi compliment each other.
momiji, at the end of furuba, is going through a metamorphosis. he’s been forced out of his childish persona and into the life of an adult rather quickly, and he takes the opportunity to try to become more true to himself. we can see, in the last few chapters, the beginnings of bounds of growth; however, i imagine that there is a significant “awkward” period in his growth. judging from what i know about his character, i believe he would, in his effort to be more honest and confident, overcompensate a bit; he would become overbearing, intense, perhaps even oversharing. he might have a tendency to try to figure out what’s “wrong” with his friends and family, might always be trying to “fix” everything. i could easily see him, in fact, develop a bit of a selfish attitude (albeit rooted in kindness--it is, after all, still momiji); in his journey to stop letting people walk all over them, i believe he might become prone to walking over people himself. he’d have no idea where the lines are, where someone’s limits are, because he never had the chance to test them out in his youth, and because the people in power in his life (his parents and akito) never respected anyone else’s limits. enter kimi: tough, walled off, and incredibly secretive, though she tries to hide it. momiji, with his social perceptiveness, would notice at some point how difficult it is for her to form genuine, emotional connections with others, and would feel the urge to help her, to draw her out of her shell, not realizing that she doesnt necessarily want to be understood, nor that she’s (now entering headcanon territory, be warned) *scared* of those kinds of relationships. she’d take it, for a while, but there would come a time when she’d snap. this would do wonders for helping momiji figure out where the boundaries are, and how to be more aware of other people’s wants and needs (and it is something that tohru, reserved little wallflower that she is, would never be able to do for him).
kimi, on the other hand, has not quite started developing her character at the end of the manga. i like to apply all sorts of believable anxieties onto her: maybe she regrets not having an easy connection with other girls, like she does with boys. maybe she refuses to believe in the familial structure (that momiji idolizes). maybe she’s so used to playing the part of the homewrecker that, when she finally realizes that she’s found something or someone she truly loves, she doesn’t know how to handle it, and always worries that somebody’s going to take it away for her. maybe she views connections with others, or vulnerability, as a weakness, something that could be used against her, and tries to do everything she can to wall people off and hide her true feelings. well, good news for her, momiji is the resident king of loving family structures. family is something he truly loves and understands, from how much he’s admired it from afar, and been grateful for the family he’s made for himself in hatori, tohru, and the other zodiac. he’s well primed to help her understand what a true family is like, that real love is a good thing, not a scary thing, and that it’s okay to be vulnerable sometimes. this big, sweethearted doofus who somehow managed to see how much she was struggling under the many layers of masks that she hides beneath? there’s no way kimi wouldnt fall for him. and she, this girl who challenges everything he believes in, teaches him valuable lessons about how far is too far, and is basically the most fun person he’s ever met? there’s no way momiji wouldn’t fall for her.
i believe the two of them would start things off as almost a play; theyd portray a satire of the ideal male and female celebrity couple rather easily; theyd lean into the standard boy and girl roles almost ridiculously so, drawing attention to the absurdity of the standard relationship and somehow flirting through it. kimi, as we know, likes to pretend to be this helpless, flirtatious, “i couldnt possibly do anything on my own, oh whatever shall i do O3O” caricature of the feminine “ideal” to draw men in; momiji, i feel, would respond to that with a dorky, happy-go-lucky, “i can help you with that, miss ; )” caricature of the masculine, “ideal” gentleman, just for fun. theyd put on a show, for each other, for their peers, and for themselves, but they would eventually run into some troubles (detailed above). things would be tense, but theyd keep up their personas--why would they *ever* admit to their flaws to the outside world, theyre perfect? their friends would notice, of course, but wouldnt be able to do much about it; in the end, the only people perceptive enough to read through the bullshit of one is the other. theyd come to an understanding--spoken or unspoken (with the subtleties of their relationship, its not unreasonable that they could change their entire perspective of their relationship with just actions, not direct words or conversation)--and shift back into their previous, flirtatious relationship, except its different this time. because now, they understand each other, they love each other, theyre practically reading the other’s mind, and theyre perfectly in tune. rather than putting on masks to hide from each other, they wear one together to hide from the world--but, they think, that’s probably enough.
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rubyneo · 3 years ago
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@onewomancitadel fuck it ruby/neo hours under the cut
the fact that they are narrative parallels (lost their best friends, during the fall of a school and kingdom, lead by cinder, both times they fight DURING that time before they lose their friends, dangling over an abyss,) and then ofc while neo has been actively going through a breakdown for however long (theres no way neo from a year ago would have fallen for such an obvious ploy) ruby has been actively pushing hers down, not even crying in front of YANG!!!
theres also the thing of like. okay with the jaune and penny and weiss. if jaune had tried to heal penny, cinder moat likely would have killed weiss (who was auraless) and then jaune and penny anyway. if jaune had gone to help weiss and hoped to fight off cinder to get a chance to heal penny then penny PROBABLY would have died anyway and we have no clue where the power would have gone (would penny have had enough strength to keep thinking of winter when weiss and jaune were clearly outmatched and in danger?)
so i genuinely believe that weiss is going to side with jaune as killing penny was the only way for them to a) ensure the power didnt go to cinder and b) weiss and jaune didnt die too. and thats gonna HURT ruby because these are her BEST FRIENDS her TEAMMATES (plus jaune and weiss share the position of being ruby's partner in the team sense). ruby fought SO DAMN HARD to save penny and protect her and keep her alive, how could jaune kill her, how could weiss say that it was (not right, never right, weiss loved her too, they all did) what had to happen?
and then blake and yang are in the special position of having killed someone because it was the only way to survive, but also there was special care paid to the relationships between ruby and blake and ruby and yang in volume 8, so theyre gonna be torn. if it was true, if weiss was fighting cinder ALONE and penny was dying, how could they say jaune was completely wrong? but on the other hand ruby is RUBY and how can they ever say an innocent like penny deserved the death she got???
SO then we get to ruby and neo again. neo who only blames ruby because cinder so masterfully points neo in her direction. "take it up with little red", but HOW does cinder know ruby was even on the airship that night? does cinder just blame ruby overall for the "failure" at beacon? doesnt matter, neo turns on ruby. because of course it's ruby's fault, SHE is the one who tricked neo SHE is the one who tossed neo off the airship SHE was the last one to see roman alive.
and now, in the present. ruby can be mad at jaune but she wont blame him. she can't he's her best friend he's her fellow leader and she cant GET to cinder (whos caused all of her grief since that first night of the show), so who else is there? besides the one who teamed up with cinder, who distracted ruby so thoroughly she couldnt possibly notice cinder's attack, who is the entire reason ruby couldnt be there to save penny?
(side note: i love enemies who are such a distraction for each other they don't pick up on the intentions of others. neo absolutely should have realized cinder was gonna betray her, but she was SO OBSESSED with ruby she didnt notice that cinder's sudden change to her beacon era personality was all fake)
its just...like their stories are SO intertwined, plus theyre WR but like. fun and spicy LMAO.
and then compared to like Nuts n Dolts (where i saw people literally saying that shot of penny in the v7 opening was very shoujo anime esque and well. you and i both know what happens to the anime trope ships in this show :/) which just comes across as like. well you know the post about certain ships during beacon era being childhood relationships? nnd is like that for me. the same as arkos. (i mean, jaune and ruby lose pyrrha and penny the same night. the death of childhood romances)
and like i said i think RG is very...boring. it comes across like oscar has a crush and ruby of course respects him but the same way she respects jaune? it just doesnt hit any of the beats i enjoy, even less so than NND, which i can at least understand. RG just feels like another childhood romance. puppy love if you will.
Ruby/Neo have the same wound that needs to be healed, and to heal it they need to forgive EACH OTHER. which i think is absolutely necessary for cinder's redemption (and yeah I know forgiveness isnt NECESSARY for a redemption but considering rwby's narrative like...i do think its absolutely gonna be part of it especially for cinder)
ruby forgiving neo, neo forgiving ruby, ruby forgiving jaune, ruby and jaune forgiving cinder, cinder forgiving salem....
i just think that theyre narratively important and that v9 has been set up for them in particular to be important to each OTHER in a way that no other characters CAN BE
(also i hate every time i see someone say jaune can understand what neo is going through. like....no. the narrative paralleling of ruby/neo is THERE, jaune cant give anything to neo's story. theres nothing for him to add. whats he gonna say??? "oh yeah my partner kissed me and then ran off to her death and i never even really got to consider my feelings because i felt so guilty i let her die :(((" no. enough.)
they are SO MUCH and SO IMPORTANT TO ME. also lindsay at a recent con said something about "things said and done to [ruby and neo] by each other".
(also something something ruby wears mostly black and neo wears mostly white. light in darkness, darkness in light, silver eyes reflective like mirrors, neo's semblance shattering like glass, neo being the foil of weiss who's soaked in mirror imagery)
i also enjoy neo who was a somebody but willingly became a nobody criminal and ruby who was a nobody huntress and willingly became the face of the fight against salem.
tl;dr:
ruby/neo is overall more mature and intriguing to me than ruby/penny (ruby's childhood romance from beacon era) or oscar/ruby (a "first crush" vibe on oscar's end) and i think that the narrative importance placed on them and neo's obsession with revenge on ruby throughout the atlas arc and in the preview for v9 makes them WAY better as a ship than any other relationship that is important to the two currently.
For the 'brutally honest opinion on a ship' game... well, the obvious option would be to choose something sure to kick up a stir, but that feels like entrapment... will that stop me is the real question.
So let me choose Ruby/Oscar, mostly because I'm interested to hear your thoughts about that in respect to Ruby/Neo, and you can use that space also to talk about why you ship Ruby/Neo!
If you'd prefer not to do RG, then you have to do Ironqrow
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i don't like ruby/oscar djsndns i think its kinda uhhh. hm. like maybe baby's first crush on oscar's end? like admiration and infatuation, but not something that's gonna go anywhere. plus i always read the little prince as a tragedy when we read it in french class. for me its kinda boring SBFNSND f in the chat for me if it does go canon LMAO
ruby/neo for me is a lot more...mature? ig? theyre very similar in very nice ways, going through similar griefs, and it seems very obvious to me that theyre gonna come together with a new understanding and forgiveness, for each other and themselves.
(plus i think ruby and neo healing THEIR shared wound will help ruby to forgive jaune doing the unforgivable...and perhaps.... cinder as well 👀)
i think theyre just like..infinitely more interesting than most of the other relationships presented for either of them!
also i love ironqrow and i miss them desperately. sniffling and sobbing this is how their secret marriage can still win,,,,
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brownthrussy · 7 years ago
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Hey I saw your tags, & I was just wondering what is racist in su & gf? I'm just genuinely curious!
Well first of all sorry about the late reply i've been pretty busy! Second of all this might be a pointless reply, considering these fandoms, but fuck it. Stevies university and its fandom loves to preach itself as being diverse and woke yet does the same stuff that other fandoms do. Remember when Garnet or Amethyst got an arc for themselves? Me neither. Literally they're both "fusion" and the "fat friend" at this point. Both get little to no development for themselves which becomes ridiculous when theres been an interesting amount of focus and detail concerning Pearl. The Sardonyx arc, you know the arc which should have shown that Garnet is allowed to show that she can be vulnerable and that hurting others has consequences, was established as a Pearl arc. Literally it focused on the one that caused said problem instead of the one that got hurt when it shouldve focused on both atleast. Its also interesting how Garnet was stoic and silent when she was Darker in season 1 yet after her immediate regeneration in the end of the season she becomes lighter and more open. It probably wasnt intentional, considering Garnet got some growth by the season to become more open since Stevie met her halves, but its a tiring trope or "Stoic black woman finally gets to have a personality out of being serious and strong" which lasted a season. By season 3 shes literally the fusion friend. Aka the only episodes where she gets some focus are concerning fusion, which isnt wrong considering she is one, but it gets ridiculous not giving her anything else to work for. Amethyst was used as a "self hate" trope, which was great initially however it got repetitive and nothing was truly done. Remember season 3 when Amethyst was like "i hate myself thx Jasper" and Stevie was like "i hate myself too ok" and had a episode dedicated to it. It didnt seem necessary to have a competition on who hates themselves more when they could've, oh i dont know, learn and show compassion to one another as well as understanding each others. While it isnt exactly racism, i just dislike how the emotions in this show is just cry cry and we never mention it ever again. "Bismuth" was a display of "angry black woman' considering Bismuth wanted to kill a dictator and Stevie was like "b-hut th' hat'll make us just as bad l1ke them!!!1" and then Bismuth got poofed for wanting to kill dictators cause she was black and mean :// i get the whole "she tried to kill stevie" she thought he was rose and before anyone says "still murder tho" well ya faves Pearl Lapis and Peridot did the same shit too while the big bad butches Bismuth and Jasper suffer forever :). "Earthings" was a favorite of mine but I thought it used Smoky Quartz at the wrong time. Like the episode literally says that Amethyst could never beat Jasper no matter how she tries which really wasnt a good lesson tbh "hard work doesnt pay off, genetics does!!". Smoky was formed from a emotional bond which was nice but i thought it wouldve been better if Amethyst had accepted stevies help and that they could be fucks up together and said fusion would happen naturally instead of using fusion as just "wow we cant do shit on our owns :/// thanks rock genetics". The rubies literally got left in space to die when they were so easy to dispatch and Steven pulled the "i wanted to help eyeball" while he left the other 4 rubies to die instead of giving them a chance since wow they're??? Their own gems and deserve a chance. Said fandom demonized Navy and called her a sociopath for gaining Stevie's and the barn lesbians trust and taking the ship. These were some detailed reasons why the fandom and show seem hypocritical when they pull their "we care about diveristy but we aint gonna bother showing it" aka if youre not white coded rip you. Connie and Lars' heritage? Not necessary since theyre not white lol. Lars got a confirmed race like 4 episodes before he became pink so if we hadn't seen him before he got pink then we wouldve never known since he wouldnt look like a poc and he doesnt talk about his heritage so he wouldnt sound like one either. The fandom was also like "omgggg look at this one pic of Connie's mom wearing Indian clothes" while refusing the claim that we dont need to hear about anyone's heritage since it isn't "realistic" for POC to talk about it. Interestingly, most white fans say this claim hmm. Blue Diamond had some concerns syrrounding whitewashing, which appears to be due to lighting/ not official design. The problem was that BD was shown to be crueler in Season 2 when she was going to kill Ruby for doing her job. Yet by her official appearance she's neon, looks white despite the Indian asthethic vibe displayed on "The Return" and her display on the Moon, and sad cause her co-worker/ gf died or some shit despite Becky Sugar saying that BD was supposed to be a representation of homophobia. A stupid trope where the homophobe was just a closeted gay. She also became so sad and gay that the fandom woobified her to being a innocent gem despite being a dictator, trying to murder a main character, owning a human zoo. The show also made her cry like 99% to make you feel sad for her cause oh no how dare our white saviour Rose Quartz murder a dictator. This also brought a stupid belief of Steven that "the diamonds woildnt be here if it wasnt for my mom !!! Fuck her" considering killing PD looks like it was the only good thing Rose has done and like out of all the things steven has a right to be mad about it was about his mom killing a dictator??? Also Amethyst's and a Gem named Concrete had their own racist beta designs. Amethyst had a chola design and Concrete, a literal black coded gem that couldnt read (an advanced alien species and the only one that cant read is the black gem?),were displayed on the art books because the crewniverse doesnt really consider the racism that theyve displayed for children to see. This show has a lot of problems and its still good, could be a whole lot better if some issues were addressed, but considering the writers and fandom refuse to address any criticism by using the "its a show for kids!!!1) says the 30 year old white gay on tunglr. Org who praises stevies university for being woke!!1 and having a gay couple. Jeez this got long but I just think its hypocritical that everyone praises this show for barely doing the bare minimum yet refuses to address any problems.While I havent watched the whole show, Gravity falls has displayed a lack of POC in their whole show. While it is a small city, it became interesting that a lot of POC were in prison.
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i think i accidentally deleted the super exciting message i got about this two weeks ago but here’s an explanatory guide to my tags + the source creds in case that person is still wondering!!
stuff i came up with because i couldn’t find an appropriate enough quote
╳ 𝙞'𝙡𝙡 𝙘𝙝𝙚𝙧𝙞𝙨𝙝 𝙮𝙤𝙪 — 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙧 𝙡𝙞𝙩𝙩𝙡𝙚 𝙙𝙤𝙜 𝙩𝙤𝙤.┊re: CHARLIE KING. ▒ a play on the scooby doo villain mantra, except more wholesome.
╳ 𝙞'𝙢 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙖𝙝𝙖𝙗.┊re: BOOKER CORMAC. ▒   technically a reference to sage’s characterization of booker as “the ahab” horror trope.
╳ 𝙩𝙪𝙧𝙣 𝙤𝙪𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙜𝙖𝙨𝙡𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩𝙨. 𝙞𝙩'𝙨 𝙩𝙞𝙢𝙚 𝙛𝙤𝙧 𝙨𝙪𝙣𝙧𝙞𝙨𝙚.┊re: THE BABES VS. BULLSHIT BRIGADE. ▒    cheesy first bit written by me and second bit is a reference to this corny pinterest pin.
╳ 𝙝𝙤𝙢𝙚𝙘𝙤𝙢𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙦𝙪𝙚𝙚𝙣 𝙩𝙪𝙧𝙣𝙚𝙙 𝙨𝙘𝙧𝙚𝙖𝙢 𝙦𝙪𝙚𝙚𝙣.┊ANATOMY. ▒ my tagline for this character which is now canonically a reference to the headline from a news report on the “Hooper Port Horror”
╳ 𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙨 𝙡𝙤𝙫𝙚 𝙨𝙤𝙣𝙜 𝙨𝙤𝙪𝙣𝙙𝙨 𝙖 𝙡𝙤𝙩 𝙡𝙞𝙠𝙚 𝙖 𝙙𝙞𝙧𝙜𝙚.┊PLAYLIST. ▒ b/c my max playlist is mostly grotesque creepy love songs that can be interpreted as both murder fantasies and sex fantasies all at once
╳ 𝙖 𝙨𝙪𝙥𝙥𝙤𝙨𝙚𝙙𝙡𝙮 𝙛𝙪𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙞'𝙡𝙡 𝙣𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙧 𝙙𝙤 𝙖𝙜𝙖𝙞𝙣.┊m: FORMER POTENTIAL VALEDICTORIAN. ▒ reference to a David Foster Wallace book + my attempt to condense her former identity into 2 words. for musings on the person she used to be, who she never can be and never wants to be again: the smart cheerleader in a mean clique. her capacity for academics has dropped severely since developing ptsd
╳ 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙛𝙚𝙖𝙧 𝙤𝙛 𝙗𝙡𝙤𝙤𝙙 𝙩𝙚𝙣𝙙𝙨 𝙩𝙤 𝙘𝙧𝙚𝙖𝙩𝙚 𝙛𝙚𝙖𝙧 𝙛𝙤𝙧 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙛𝙡𝙚𝙨𝙝.┊m: WHEN AMITY IS THE KISS OF DEATH. ▒ first half is actually from silent hill 3 but the second half is mine, from a paragraph that got cropped out of one of my threads. the tag is for musings about max being terrified of getting close to people b/c 1) anybody could be a killer and 2) she thinks she’s an inherently toxic person who will poison anyone she touches and 3) she’s pretty sure everyone who comes near her becomes slasher fodder
stuff other people came up with:
╳  𝙝𝙤𝙬 𝙛𝙖𝙨𝙩 𝙝𝙚𝙧 𝙝𝙚𝙖𝙧𝙩 𝙗𝙚𝙖𝙩𝙨 𝙩𝙤 𝙠𝙚𝙚𝙥 𝙪𝙥 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙝𝙚𝙧𝙨𝙚𝙡𝙛.┊m: MAX BRONTE SHE’S A HUMMINGBIRD. ▒  both of these are reference to a really horrific passage in this para with @saintjimmys and it’s for musings about how max is this ‘pretty dainty bird’ with a rapid heartbeat because she’s always in a state of extreme stress, & how she used to be this pretty bird who was too fast for him to catch but now she’s all crippled and vulnerable in the palm of his hands (it’s a very creepy passage i hate it i love it)
References to outside material
╳ 𝙮𝙤𝙪 𝙨𝙖𝙞𝙙 𝙞 𝙠𝙞𝙡𝙡𝙚𝙙 𝙮𝙤𝙪 — 𝙝𝙖𝙪𝙣𝙩 𝙢𝙚, 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙣.┊re: JIMMY ST. CLAIR. ▒ from wuthering heights and i just want to say that the parallels between catherine/heathcliff and jimmy/max were actually 100% accidental. sage hasn’t even read any bronte and i didn’t realize when i was naming her that gothic romance would become such a huge part of her character. the quote is extra appropriate b/c jimmy accused max of “killing” the innocent boy he used to be, and max agrees and wants him around to make her confront her guilt.
╳ 𝙖𝙨 𝙖 𝙢𝙖𝙩𝙩𝙚𝙧 𝙤𝙛 𝙛𝙖𝙘𝙩 — 𝙞𝙩 𝙬𝙖𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙗𝙤𝙤𝙜𝙚𝙮𝙢𝙖𝙣.┊re: THE CREEPER. ▒ reference to that iconic Halloween exchange. Laurie: “It was the boogeyman...” Dr. Sam Loomis: “As a matter of fact, it was.” im not that proud of this one im probably gonna change it  to some kind of reference to THIS
╳ 𝙜𝙤𝙤𝙙 𝙣𝙚𝙬𝙨 𝙛𝙤𝙧 𝙥𝙚𝙤𝙥𝙡𝙚 𝙬𝙝𝙤 𝙡𝙤𝙫𝙚 𝙗𝙖𝙙 𝙣𝙚𝙬𝙨.┊re: SYDNEY WURM. ▒ from the modest mouse album title because nina is modest mouse trash and also because max and sid’s co-masochistic relationship is based on a mutual desire for punishment for their sins.
╳ 𝙚𝙨𝙘𝙖𝙥𝙚 𝙞𝙨 𝙟𝙪𝙨𝙩 𝙖 𝙣𝙤𝙙 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙖 𝙘𝙖𝙨𝙪𝙖𝙡 𝙬𝙖𝙫𝙚.┊re: MITCHELL SARKOZY. ▒ from that She Wants Revenge song everybody knows. their relationship isnt that similar to the song but the line is just to demonstrate that they just have each other as fucktoys and there’s no emotional investment whatsoever. they finish up and she’s all torn up and feeling guilty about using him as a coping mechanism for tyler’s death he’s like okay bye see you next week
╳ 𝙬𝙚'𝙧𝙚 𝙤𝙪𝙩 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙡𝙖𝙣𝙩𝙚𝙧𝙣𝙨 𝙡𝙤𝙤𝙠𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙛𝙤𝙧 𝙤𝙪𝙧𝙨𝙚𝙡𝙫𝙚𝙨.┊re: GREY CAVERLY. ▒ reference to an emily dickinson line “i’m out with lanterns-- looking for myself.” because max and grey first met wandering through the woos while max was looking for her phone and said a line about “my whole life is on that thing can you imagine losing your whole life” but also more deeply a reference to them as co-explorers trying to find their old identities and maybe wrap their heads around their new one and their whole relationship is about adventure discovery and this was the first ever tag i was really proud of ok i know where i was going with it i just can’t explain it
╳ 𝙞 𝙝𝙚𝙖𝙧𝙙 𝙖 𝙛𝙡𝙮 𝙗𝙪𝙯𝙯 – 𝙬𝙝𝙚𝙣 𝙞 𝙙𝙞𝙚𝙙.┊m: IDENTITY MORATORIUM. ▒ from an emily dickinson poem + psychological term for a state of suspended identity. this is kind of a coupled tag with FORMER POTENTIAL VALEDICTORIAN but with more emphasis on the aspect of the person max used to be dying alongside tyler’s corpse in the church fire.
╳ 𝙠𝙚𝙚𝙥 𝙞𝙣 𝙡𝙞𝙣𝙚 - 𝙮𝙤𝙪'𝙧𝙚 𝙖𝙣 𝙤𝙡𝙙 𝙛𝙧𝙞𝙚𝙣𝙙 𝙨𝙩𝙧𝙖𝙣𝙜𝙚𝙧.┊re: CYPRESS BRONTE. ▒  reference to another Modest Mouse song. reference to cy wanting max to chill and her wanting him to leave her alone. second bit is a double entente: they see each other as an old friend turned weirder but they’re also both both see each other as so different from the person they grew up with that they’re basically strangers to each other
╳ 𝙮𝙤𝙪 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙢𝙚 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙙𝙚𝙫𝙞𝙡 𝙢𝙖𝙠𝙚𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙧𝙚𝙚 .┊BRONTE vs. WURM vs. ST. CLAIR. ▒ reference to that old idiom and plans for a future plot where sid and jimmy wind up getting along and jimmy starts kicking it with them real casually and max looks into the camera very frightened like what the fuck is happening how did i get here
╳ 𝙞𝙩'𝙨 𝙤𝙠𝙖𝙮. 𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙧𝙮𝙤𝙣𝙚'𝙨 𝙨𝙪𝙧𝙫𝙞𝙫𝙖𝙡 𝙡𝙤𝙤𝙠𝙨 𝙖 𝙡𝙞𝙩𝙩𝙡𝙚 𝙡𝙞𝙠𝙚 𝙙𝙚𝙖𝙩𝙝 𝙨𝙤𝙢𝙚𝙩𝙞𝙢𝙚𝙨.┊re: RUBY KANE. ▒ from angels of the get through by andrea gibson. because max and ruby are HOT MESSES but at least theyre surviving and max just wants ruby to celebrate every tiny victory she’s proud of her
╳ 𝙬𝙚𝙡𝙘𝙤𝙢𝙚 𝙩𝙤 𝙛𝙧𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙣𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙛𝙤𝙧 𝙧𝙚𝙖𝙡.┊FLASHBACK. ▒ quote from Fright Night. because after max & co made Jimmy watch a horror movie and pranked him, he made them LIVE one, for real.
╳ 𝙤𝙝 𝙦𝙪𝙞𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙖𝙩. 𝙗𝙡𝙪𝙨𝙝𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙞𝙨 𝙛𝙤𝙧 𝙫𝙞𝙧𝙜𝙞𝙣𝙨 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙘𝙝𝙧𝙞𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙖𝙣𝙨.┊re: JONAH B. JAMES. ▒ From a fave book Deathless. because they’re both slutty heretics in their own narratives. it actually doesn’t fit their relationship yet because they still think of each other as pure but once she finds out how filthy hi soul is it’ll be easier for her to interact with him i think. 
╳ 𝙞 𝙘𝙝𝙚𝙧𝙞𝙨𝙝𝙚𝙙. 𝙮𝙤𝙪 𝙥𝙚𝙧𝙞𝙨𝙝𝙚𝙙. 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙬𝙤𝙧𝙡𝙙’𝙨 𝙗𝙚𝙚𝙣 𝙣𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩𝙢𝙖𝙧𝙞𝙨𝙝𝙚𝙙.┊re: TYLER ROMERO. ▒  from a series of unfortunate events. self explanatory. everything turned to shit when her beloved douchey boyfriend died
&. i definitely still need tags for: -eve -terence -darby -sheila -axel -dahlia -jupiter -max's super cute parents + cat -dakota
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