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lucifers-left-tit · 9 months ago

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YES like fuck. it's even kind of spelled out in the song. charlie might be the very own princess of hell - a tier second only to Lucifer, mind you - and yet in heaven's eyes, in Sera's eyes, she's as dismissable as the young, naive Emily. Worse, actually, because she's a hellborn, not a seraphim.

(even though charlie and lilith, as the tier below Lucifer, would in fact equate to the seraphim)

It's so important to me that we all understand that hell and heaven in the Hellaverse aren't like two separate territories with equal power in a war that heaven happens to be winning.

Hell is a territory that Heaven rules.

Lucifer may be the king, but that is a position he was given by Heaven, because they have the power and authority to place people in charge of Hell,

And it's all well and good he WANTS to do better as a ruler. That he takes it seriously, or did at one point and/or is coming around to it again in the show, but its a possition with only as much power as Heaven wants to give it, and they want it to have less power than the General of Heaven's army, because Sera listens to Adam before she listens to Lucifer.

Lucifer, an Archangel, doesn't get to make demands of heaven. He doesn't even try. He gets to ask Sera to please stop the genocide of the people he was told to watch over. He gets to concede when they say no. Because heaven just gets to say no, because they get to decide what happens in hell without taking into account the opinions of Lucifer, or the seven sins, or the goetia or anyone in hell.

We all get that right?

That Charlie and the other's defending the hotel wasn't just the citizens of hell going up against an invading army. It only counts an an invading army ans not the occupying force because they don't actually stay there year round

Hell didn't just win their first battle in a war that's been raging for millennia. That was the first time hell organized to fight back against their theocratic dictatatorship- if not ever, than in millenia.

That was act of rebellion.

That was Hell declairing independence.

#also. the exorcists would roughly equate to the seven sins - yes the sins are a big deal in Hell just like the elder angels are in heaven #BUT TO HEAVEN the sins are at best on par with exorcists #something something ''oh lucifer. once an archangel. now you're buddies with deadly sins that can at most compare to our soldiers''#if we continue down this analogy #the ars goetia are on pair WITH WINNERS #then overlords are like heavenborn #(this one's murky because theyre sinners too but. if nothing more we can see that at least adam knew to kill alastor first #which is roughly the same amount of recognition id expect sera to have for some random heavenborn)#AND THATS WHY HEAVEN SEES SINNERS IN SUCH A LOW LIGHT LIKE #just based on hierarchy alone. the seraphim would see sinners about as respectfully as a goetia (not stolas) would regard an imp #then suddenly someone comes along and suggests bumping them up the ranks?#its literally like going from imp to Notable Sinner like pentious or angel or whoever #and that's just the hierarchical perspective - THEY HAVE A MORAL HIGH GROUND BECAUSE OF THE WHOLE SIN STUFF #hence why despite lilith being likely hierarhically on the seraphims level #lute addresses her like that #to her. lilith is AT MOST on Adam's level (the human soul part not the exorcist part) but really we know its lower because she Did That #you know like how they left vaggie as though a mere sinner #so YEAH #the hierarchical and moral dominon they have mean that this uprising is A Lot to digest #and then fucking PENTIOUS gets to heaven!#anyway.#fave

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