#hemera otlicu
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is big titty a requirement to be in nyx's quadrants
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rly like how hemeras lipstick matches whateve shes wearing. its cute
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which of your fantrolls are derse and which are prospit. and do you believe there's a meaningful divide?
these guys inherited their dream moons pretty straightforwardly from the characters they were inspired by.
dream moon feels kind of like the most astrology esque of all of homestuck's astrology type systems LOL in that basically all of the characters inherited them based on totally arbitrary circumstance (same moon as the rest of my family members, same moon as the rest of the players who wanted to join team vriska / team equius, etc.) and the comic never once seems to try to explain it in any deeper terms than that. so any analysis of what they might mean is just trying to find patterns in disparate personalities. (i guess dream moon being significant is a real thing now that it's included in the official aspect test but i'm not even going to bother looking those up because i don't really care that much. lol)
there are some interpretations i've found interesting.. like prospit dreamers playing active roles and being protagonists while derse dreamers are behind the scenes actors and backgrounders is so obviously true but it also seems so redundantly similar to active + passive classes. and the one about prospit dreamers being upfront with their personalities and derse dreamers hiding behind a mask is fun for explaining oddities like dersite nepeta but falls apart for other characters.
so i've never once thought about what moon "fits" a character before deciding where they go, i 100% always just sort them towards the beginning of the design process and then soooometimes when i develop a character further i will take their lunar sway into account and think about how it might contribute to their personality or arc. but it's usually a more personalised thing, like, what does being on prospit or on derse mean to that character in particular.. so i wouldn't say i think of there being a "divide" between the two. their significances can vary. while being a derse dreamer obviously doesn't MAKE you a villain for instance it's easy to justify why a villain might belong on derse and a dersite villain might be very different to a prospitian villain. <- thinking about it harder right now than i probably ever have before in my life
#time-derse and space-prospit is a rule i have stuck by pretty firmly so far. but i can also see how it could be really fun to flip that too#fantrolls#brax#hemera otlicu#ekidna rakain#typhon sethna#iaoweh bahuth#caetos gnowee#ninnyx artume#heftus vulkan
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thats her bug proboscis... you bastard...
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whos hemeras moirail?
ninnyx!
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can we get some crumbs of info about hemera
hemera comes from the same tradition of terminally-online and nihilistically irony-poisoned lowbloods as braxas, but having cut her teeth as a Girl on the internet she's very much aware of how she can take advantage of what assets she has to get what she wants out of people - like her immense psionic power, for instance. it's not that the role of ditzy blondeblood is an "act" for her, but it's not like she just fell into being a royal starship pilot and live-in moirail by complete accident, either. for the most part hemera does shit because she wants to do it. she isn't necessarily manipulative or duplicitous but she's definitely mastered the necessary art of keeping shit to herself when it isn't relevant to other people
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you're like the sisyphus of eridan discourse, no matter how much you push that rock up it'll always gonna roll back down.
anyway how does hemera and bronzeblood guy's relationship work? how did they meet?
being nyx' pilot means hemera basically meets people in person when they're on the ship and that's it. so she knows iaoweh mostly through nix, who has a complex sort of hag-fag/empress-eunuch type frenemy relationship with him and invites him on board to play strategy games every so often. except iaoweh is only gay in redrom so he can totally spades around with nyx' moirail in the background while still playing the eunuch. troll relationships sure are complicated!
i think hemmy and iao's relationship is largely physical, and based off a truly heated dislike for each other. being linked up to the psychic internet almost all of the time, hemera isn't exactly starved for intellectual stimulation, so it's mainly that physical release that she's after - only fanned by long stretches spent with solely nix for company. meanwhile iaoweh doesn't have a lot of respect for hemera's intelligence, or like, the intelligence of most women, broadly speaking - but hemera gets it the hardest with her ditzy blonde routine - so there's not exactly a lot of stimulating conversation going on between them. but that suits both of them just fine. maybe they talk shit about nix a little bit when they get the time, but like in her other relationships hemera is mostly happy to play the character that gets her what she wants out of the kismesissitude.
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i love hemera so muuch every time i see her i go :) yay
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render yourself in a less cute manner this instant
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some species swaps as a character design challenge :) this is really hard.
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Please go on forever about your trolls' face/hair/horns
i really love how the trolls' ink-black hair as depicted in the comic encourages you not to worry about realism of form and lets you have some astro boy / mickey mouse type fun with shapes.
i completely lost the fucking plot making these but i think my point was to highlight the benefits of having put the denizen trolls through one or two different iterations before they arrived in their current forms. while i clearly had the 'just put some shapes together' idea in my mind 10 years ago, revisiting the designs offered me the opportunity to really play up and exaggerate the details that worked until i had something that was actually communicative of a character and not just an essentially random haphazard of spikes and curls.
when i make a new troll these days the hair still does usually amount to putting pen to paper and seeing where the lines take me, but when you're focusing more on the shapes than the reality of what the hair would look like you can really let those shapes refine themselves as you continue to draw them and you figure out what you find easiest and/or most fun to draw.
anyway then i spent like another 2-3 hours drawing this up
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how do you come up with your fantroll designs?? Or their clothes cuz goddamn, chefs kiss, all of them (like is it just going "here's an idea/personality and then I'll draw them from there? or getting other influences then shaping it (all) into a troll?)
ah man i wish i had a good answer for this one �� cus i love talking design. for trolls i do very much tend to start with a single basic idea and wing it from there though. it's very rare that i have to pass over a troll's design a second or third time LOL. but a lot of the time that initial design will inform how i develop the character further.
my general philosophy for basically anything is that really good design is just seamlessly synthesising two or more different ideas into one. and trolls each having their own unique signs makes this really easy and fun to play around with. so for instance designing an adult troll's uniform i'll usually just start with a broad archetype i want the character to fit or maybe an existing character i want to take inspiration from and then it's just a matter of finding the best way to fit their sign - or even just a vague shape-language inspired by their sign - onto that template
#i'm sure this is sooooo unhelpful sorry lmfao i might have a bit more to say if i were breaking down a specific character's look#also i focused on clothing here cus u mentioned that in the ask. but i could go on forever and ever about most of my trolls' face/hair/horn#fantrolls#brax#hemera otlicu#ninnyx artume
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