#heck sailor moon season 3 is quite totally different to sailor moon season 5 even
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vv-ispy · 23 days ago
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Not that there's no issues with how Sailor Neptune and Uranus are written bc there are, yet their ruthlessness in the S arc is less about how they're mean as individual people (which.....fair they kinda are but that's besides this point) but rather a conflicting ideology between the inner senshi who value all life and each individual person, vs Uranus/Neptune who're about the greater good. S is about 'would you sacrifice one life to save the world' where the inner senshi is a resounding 'no absolutely not' and Uranus/Neptune is 'yes. without question'
This.....probably runs into some problems in an anime where the answer is The Power of Love and the third solution of 'love' exists, it makes them come off as antagonistic for no reason when Sailor Moon's whole thing 'I can solve this with love and understanding, always + I can reset the world' buuuuut UraNep aren't completely wrong in the end of S if Sailor Moon's powers aren't a given — the result of sparing Hotaru is shown and said result is the whole city died, and they only undied bc of Sailor Moon's reset
Anyway huge misconception to say that UraNep only cares about each other — though given how they're only nice to each other and mean to the inner senshi it's a fair assumption, but no they're just on the extreme side of The Greater Good, The Mission. Yes they're willing to kill innocent people to get the talismans, but those 'innocent people' included themselves given that Uranus' response to seeing Neptune holding a talisman is to shoot herself too (was there an element of 'don't leave me alone in this world' involved? Yeah. But she also had a whole speech about how it turned out they in fact held the talisman + the prior episodes 'The Mission' talk so). In fact, in their eyes they're not 'innocent' at all, that very episode contains the famous hands scene where Haruka worries her hands are solied by the mission, she doesn't like that she has to kill innocents even if it is for The World. And the two also already had an ideological discussion in the backstory episode of Haruka going 'so you don't care how many innocent people die in the process of defeating the enemy?' Michiru 'That's right. I don't' then admitting actually it haunts her deeply and the fact that Haruka is now gonna be a casualty hurts even more but she has to put it aside for the greater good of saving the rest of the world. Her dreams of becoming a violinist or wishes of Haruka not following her path don't matter when the fate of the world is on the line. UraNep will sacrifice themselves/those closest to them for the greater good of the world, not the other way around
(And yeah yeah there's that scene where some posessed guy claims that a certain container contains the soul of evil and smashing it will doom the world and when he questions why Michiru did it to save Haruka she responds with 'Don't you know? A world without Haruka isn't worth living in' but that's a joke! A bluff! She knew the guy was lying about the evil in the jar bc she tells Haruka right after not to be fooled and what the actual source of the posession is.)
#every so often I go on a brief s a ilor moo n intermission just to talk about The Lesbians#guess i should disclaimer this with the fact I never actually watched the first second or fourth seasons of sail or moon and only#kinda know what happened via fandom osmosis but. what I did watch instead is rev girl utena#heck sailor moon season 3 is quite totally different to sailor moon season 5 even#but yeah sailor mo on S def fits the ikuhara tone of considering people and society and ideologies. no wonder he made his own shows instead#also the fact he kept trying to kill tuxedo mask. S is my favourite season for its ideas but I think only bc of how un-sai lor moon it is#in that it goes 'magical girls saving the world via love? are we sure that's always enough? what if that fails?'#and hence he created rgu which is 'the disillusionment of believing love is enough without understanding the surrounding society: the show'#actually disclaimer that I don't remember too much of sailor moon stars either. But I do remember the mirror enemies arc and the general en#and both of them were very much working together + power of love and reaching out and understanding#especially evident with the fact that UraNep stopped being antagonistic and instead were presented as encouragement to the inners#alternatively I am very obsessed with The Lesbians specifically. Them and Them Only#(though it will never not be funny to me that Pluto stole a baby + the fact hotaru was taken from her dad is never remarked on again)#(how would you bring that up anyway 'so your child I stole? she magically aged to 12 within a week don't worry about it she's ours now')#sm talk
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