#headcanoning monty as a hater not a homophobe
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tumblasha · 1 year ago
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L: latina chica
G: gay freddy
B: bisexual bonnie
T: trans roxy
the gang’s all here :) based on this tweet
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meteor-cities · 4 years ago
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Margaret is wrong but no one calls out all the abusive content in Shuake fandom that is normalized as "jokes". Every joke is about crazy killer Akechi trying to murder Akira in his sleep even if they're dating, it's not funny when intimate partner violence and murder is a serious issue, it's not different just because it's two boys and it's now "funny hatesex". People only have themselves to blame for Shuake being abusive now. Don't come for haters when that ship has the most r*pe fics.
there are definitely horrible headcanons and horrible people who ship shuake. there's no doubt about that. i knew a person who shipped shuake who turned out to be a vile human being.
however, the thing here is, people who don't play royal and haven't really had much experience with deeper aspects of character relationships label shuake as abusive and hateful and maybe that's their opinion, but shuake never hated each other. even if you didn't play royal or don't tend to look deeper into character dynamics, it's easy to see that. akechi himself is a hugely complex character. akira is the first person he could've considered a friend (hell, most of the PT were, and also kasumi/sumire). certain actions akechi has partaken in (like wakaba's death, okumura's death, etc) are definitely not something i would ever condone, but people fail to realize he's been under the control of a narcissistic father figure for a long time before he could learn what a healthy friendship (and relationship) is.
there would be no issue with margaret being against shuake IF she didn't actively seek out and stalk my friends' pages (mainly minors) and say countless homophobic, transphobic, ableist, and many other bigoted things simply because they ship shuake. i can understand disliking a fandom (in fact, i largely dislike the aot fandom), but there is a HARD limit to things that should be said to anybody in any fandom.
every fandom is toxic. that much is understood. what margaret fails to understand is that sending death threats to people and their PETS, and then saying "akechi said it, not me" is vile. she doesn't want an adult conversation. numerous adults and people who are 17+ have tried to be civil, until it got to an extent where there was no more being civil. she will go after anybody <17, and she's 21 years old, and will even tell minors not to interact with her when she actively attacks minors as young as 13.
you mentioned r^pe fics, and i get that. that's absolutely horrendous that anybody, ANYBODY would write them. but there are ALWAYS bad apples in terms of shippers. again, shitty people aren't a valid reason to be blatantly homophobic, and deny gay coding, towards a ship. it also doesn't give any validity to attacking people who are otherwise very civil people and have very healthy headcanons towards a ship.
honestly, unless you ship shutaba, akesumi, marushu, aketaba, and/or marusumi (plus any additional age gap + p5mc x adult confidant ship), there's no reason to be so hugely against people for having a ship. there's no reason to break several of twitter's community guidelines simply because you dislike a ship. margaret's original account (akecholic) on twitter got suspended because i reported her after she said that "if you ship shuake goro akechi will kill your pets" and twitter believed that that went against the comm. guidelines regarding abuse and harrassment. monty, margaret's friend, got suspended after telling me he hopes i get hit by a car, even though nobody reported him, which is evidence that he was already being monitored by twitter.
the bottom line is this: shuake isn't canon and that's on atlus. shuake is a ship. is atlus notoriously bigoted? absolutely! however, that doesn't deny inclusive coding within characters (ex: akechi being gay coded, ann being lesbian coded, futaba, yusuke, + ryuji being autism coded) because, no matter how atlus as a company is notorious for being homophobic and bigoted, that doesn't stop writers and artists and even voice actors from putting even the most subtle kinds of coding regarding a minority.
thank you for the ask though! i hope this was a bit insightful.
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