#headcanon Johnny is the only one who remembers his birthday but I think maybe Two-Bit would too :3
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♡ Happy Birthday Dallas Winston ♡
Johnny was the only one who didn't forget Dally's birthday ♡ (It doesn't matter what's in the box, it's from Johnny ♡ :'3)
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#outsiders week 2024#happy birthday dally!!!#I don't know why Dally turned out looking like Moomin ...#prompt is Johnny but I went with Jally =D♡#can be interpreted as both friendship and romantic♡#dallas winston#johnny cade#the hero and the hoodlum#the outsiders#the outsiders fanart#jally#doodle of the day#headcanon Johnny is the only one who remembers his birthday but I think maybe Two-Bit would too :3#reblogs much appreciated ♡
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a meta on montynessa vanessa and romance cause i’m always emotional.
note: this is of course able to change if ever a monty or a johnny show up and we plot something different. failing that , this is the default course of their relationship.
let’s start this off by saying that vanessa is every bit the hopeless romantic that candace is. she wants to be in love , she wants to hold hands and go on dates and have all those dumb , cheesy moments that couples do. that being said , vanessa’s outlook on love and romance is a little more realistic than candace’s. she doesn’t remember much about her parents’ divorce , but she knows that they really did love each other. she remembers that much. and she knows that passionate , wholesome love can sour or dissipate if the couple doesn’t bother to communicate , or fails to understand one another. she would love it if her romances lasted forever , but she understands very clearly that it isn’t likely.
vanessa knows what she wants and isn’t afraid to go after it. she isn’t shy. talking to the object of her affection doesn’t turn her into a stuttering , blushy mess. the first crush we see her have ( johnny ) isn’t some stranger ; it’s someone she has already known and already has a connection with and already has a lot in common with. while she’s shocked that heinz went through her notebook , she isn’t embarrassed to realize her dad knows who she has a crush on. heinz even encourages it by inviting johnny to her birthday party. we see throughout his various attempts at getting dates that heinz , too , is a hopeless romantic. he isn’t some disgusting , misogynistic pos who thinks that his daughter is his property , either. points to heinz. point is , though , that she’s forward , and she’s used to being open about her emotions , for the most part. ( she even lays her head on johnny’s shoulder during her birthday party , before they’re actually dating , because she’s apparently very good at flirting , you go girl. )
continuing on the thread that vanessa knows what she wants , she also knows very clearly how she should be treated. her dad’s been a decent role model in this aspect. his attempts at pleasing her are based mostly on what he would have liked at her age , but he does still try to make her happy. she’s used to being treated well. not as the most important thing at any given moment , but as one of them. she craves open communication and honesty , and she wants to feel important. she breaks up with johnny because he acts as if video games are more important than her , but she says “ that’s it! ” before breaking up with him , suggesting that there are more instances in which he hasn’t treated her the way she wants to be treated. we find out later that this is likely the case. in doof 101 , johnny can’t take no for an answer. when the episode takes place , they’ve been broken up for about two months , vanessa’s presumably in a relationship with monty , and johnny still won’t let up. vanessa doesn’t have any interest in him , but she still greets him. he takes vanessa’s interest in seeing him turned back into a human as a sign that she still likes him , which she very much doesn’t. hell , he kidnaps her , like fucking king kong. johnny gives off major nice guy™ vibes. vanessa was right to get out when she did. she knows how she should be treated and that was not it.
when vanessa meets monty , he swoops in to save her , perry , and her dad from rodrigo , an evil scientist in the making. she’s pretty clearly attracted to him from the get-go , and she’s very clear about it , saying , “ i think it’s time i tried a good guy , ” while she and monty make eye contact. liking someone she barely knows is new to her ; her previous crush , and all the crushes before it ( in my headcanons ) , have all been people she’s already known. however , while the attraction is obvious , she has no interest in going after it. that attraction is left unmentioned until they meet up accidentally in a coffee shop.
it’s there that she starts an actual conversation. there’s a whole moment where she looks at him , recognizes him , and pauses. she thinks about it. and then she talks to him. she contemplates her attraction to him and her previous relationship with a “ bad boy. ” then she decided to go after him. she’s a hopeless romantic , and she hoped it’d all work out in the end , despite his being an agent working against her dad. hope rises even more when they realize what tastes they share and how much they have in common. and they do have a lot in common , even outside their coffee order ( cappuccino with chocolate powder on top and a ginger scone , please ) . their dads expect one thing , they want another. they have a similar sense of humor. he makes her laugh. they have the same reaction to their family being mocked. or , in laymen’s terms , the same sense of loyalty. although their date ends in an argument , both of them are eager to spend time together again. neither apologizes , neither backs down , and they don’t have to ; they understand each other.
worth noticing is that this is the first relationship vanessa’s ever had to keep a secret from her father. vanessa is very open about her relationship with johnny to heinz. she even breaks up with him in heinz’s house. she is comfortable enough and open enough in her relationship with her father that she feels safe moping about a breakup near him , and he knows enough about that relationship to tell johnny , “ didn’t vanessa dump you? ” while she might not tell her dad everything , she never hides things from him either. and she has to hide this not just from her dad , but from her mother too , as charlene is likely to talk to heinz about any boy vanessa brings around. the only person who can really know about any of this is her best friend lacy ( maybe , if she’s not shit at keeping secrets ) and perry the platypus. keeping secrets is new to her. but she does it! partially because , yes , sneaking around makes the relationship all that more appealing ( she is a teenager , after all ) but mostly because she likes monty. she likes the way he makes her feel , the way he makes her laugh , she likes making him laugh and making him feel special. she likes who he makes her.
however , in “ act your age , ” ten years after the show takes place , vanessa and monty have split. this isn’t surprising in real life ; a lot of people don’t marry their high school sweethearts. however , for a show like phineas and ferb , it is noteworthy. candace and jeremy get married in every and any version of the future. phineas and isabella always end up together. i don’t take everything in “ act your age ” as canon. it felt more like some very well produced fanservice. while i am willing to explore ferb and vanessa’s relationship as adults , it feels . . . slimy that they were made canon. those are just my two cents on the issue. anyway , ten years into the future , whether or not vanessa and ferb do end up together , vanessa and monty have broken up. vanessa does not initiate the breakup ; monty does. monty fell out of love with vanessa , while vanessa only fell deeper into it. vanessa loved him. she loved the way he made her feel , loved the way they joked together , loved his innate goodness , despite his sarcasm and sass.
vanessa’s morals are slightly looser than monty’s own ; she isn’t good or evil. he very much is. her moral grayness was the main issue in their relationship as they grew older , and that snowballed into larger issues , which grew into fights. their breakup was messy and drawn out. they would have loud , exhausting arguments. neither one would apologize or back down , very similarly to their first fight. then , in the morning , they would pretend things were alright again. they would never talk about it , because talking about their issues would dissolve into another argument. monty eventually decided that their relationship wasn’t worth it anymore. although he cared about her deeply , and it hurt him to hurt her , he couldn’t say that he was in love with her anymore.
she doesn’t beg him to stay. she respects his choices and when he broke up with her , she gathered her courage , said okay , and mourned by herself. she was inconsolable for a month. cried herself to sleep for weeks. she was still very much in love with him , and this breakup hits her like a freight train. it takes her a long time to be okay , to be able to listen to love songs without crying. she wears his hoodie to sleep long after they’ve broken up. while she genuinely wants the best for him , wants him to be happy however he can be , she still desperately wants him to be happy with her.
when this breakup happens changes according to my mood and to the verse , tbh. for the most part , it happens in the middle of her college career , when she’s well into her twenties. they’d been living together for at least a year at the time. vanessa decides to move into her father’s house instead of her mother’s , mostly because she feels like he can relate more. this breakup is one of the reasons she graduates a little late from college , as she takes a semester off to focus on herself. the other part is that she does want to keep up with her youtube posting , as she enjoys that very much.
#━ ◤ VANESSA IS A POE HOE ; ooc. ◢#━ ◤ LONG INTERVALS OF HORRIBLE SANITY ; headcanon. ◢#━ ◤ YOUNG AND DIPPED IN FOLLY ; monty and vanessa. ◢#[this took me......so long]
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Dally for the ask thing
nice thanks for the ask! i need more dallas ideas. since i barely ever talk about him i took my time to make this one a bit longer with some new ideas i haven’t seen before or elaborating on old ideas. it was fun and i’ll be planning more on him in the future!
Sexuality?
Bisexual. I don’t actually have many thoughts on Dally (even tho he’s my second fav) however, I always pictured Dallas as bi with a lean towards girls until johnny. He had messed around with very few other boys but nobody knows about it but johnny, soda, and two bit.
Gender?
I have played with the idea that Dallas is a trans boy because how interesting that is. Think about, it gives a lot motive for things in his life. His father is always assumed to hate him in some way. Maybe it’s because Dallas acted too much like a boy, hung out too much with the boys, dressed too much like a boy that it upset his father who in this case would be transphobic. His mother is thought of to be at least somewhat more loving or sweet or in some way forgiving and merciful. Perhaps his mother was more gentle about it, not totally supportive and passively tried to tell Dallas what he is feeling is natural but only as a stage or phase in life. It frustrated Dallas to no end and he would get bullied so harsh about it and one day, he had enough of it so he picked a new name went to Tulsa with the plan of becoming the most well known, tough hood in the whole town. It was something to prove to himself that he in his own mind was a boy just like all the others on his side of the lot. Tough and rough just like all the rest the boys he ever knew. If he could do that then he would prove to himself he was just as much of a boy as the others. Johnny would be the first to know the last would be Ponyboy and Steve.
Mental Illnesses?
Tough one. Maybe he was depressed in some ways. Maybe he had anger issues. Maybe he was suicidal. I think he could of been all of these in one form or another and I’ll cover it more in another post that will focus on him as I haven’t given him much thought but after this that will change.
3 Random Headcanons?
- He never told the gang his birthday and for a moment they might even forgot he had one. He only told them a day because Ms. and Mr. Curtis would always ask. He told them a day but it wasn’t his actual birthday. It was the day he came to Tulsa. The gang only found his real one after his death, his death was three months before his next birthday. - He rarely ever talked about his home life back in NY. The first time he did it was because the Curtis parents had died and he was drunk feeling all types of emotions. It was the first time he was truly and completely honest with the whole gang and the first time he ever called them his real family, not like the family he had back in NY but one that loved and supported him for who he was even if who he was wasn’t that great of person. He didn’t cry but his voice broke and no one ever bought it up afterwards as a silent promise to keep between them all, for dally’s sake. - He has a lot of siblings he does and doesn’t know about thanks to his father. He only lived with an older brother who was 17 and younger half sister who was only a year old. She does not remember him and will never know that he existed. The brother had already died two years before Dallas did. The state in which the rest of his siblings is unknown due to how many there can be. Very few know each other. Even fewer knew of Dallas. None knew where he was after he ran away or of his death. His mother and father who have not lived near each other since Dallas left will not know he died until one year later when the mother tries to find him again. Both seem to be indifferent to it.
more on dallas is yet to come! let me know if there’s anything specific you want me cover on him!
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