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I love your new girl au so MUCH!!! Just wondering, there must be a time when Obi-wan sees anakin walking around the apartment in nothing but a towel. Maybe anakin forgot to bring in a change of clothes to the bathroom... maybe he just doesn’t particularly care for clothes! Who knows!! But I need to know Obi-was’s reaction to seeing that for the first time 🥺
aaaaahhhh thank you so much!! i get so happy whenever someone shares their enthusiasm for the new girl au. it's my precious baby, i love it so much.
i feel like obi-wan's reaction the first time would just be, "huh". just very mild overall but with a deep sort of aesthetic appreciation for the half naked form of anakin's body.
but the closer they get, the better obi-wan gets to know him and the worse his crush gets, the more flustered he becomes whenever anakin strolls around in a towel. and anakin probably doesn't just walk from the shower to his bedroom to change, he wanders around the apartment, makes himself a shake, sits on the couch and scrolls endlessly through his phone while all that stands between his dick and obi-wan is a flimsy towel. and his hair is dripping over his shoulders, sending little drops of water sliding down his chest, catching on his stiff nipples, and obi-wan has never been closer to popping an aneurysm. his blood pressure is very unhealthy. one time anakin asks him for help to loosen a knot of tension in his shoulders because obi-wan knows a thing or two about how to do that, and so he gets to put his hands on anakin's naked skin. it's the best and worst experience in his life. it's very sad, in a way.
MEANWHILE. anakin can only fantasize about how obi-wan looks beneath all those layers of clothes because the man never walks around shirtless. the best anakin gets is seeing obi-wan in sleep shorts that are still entire too long, in his modest opinion. until he accidentally walks in on obi-wan while he's naked in his room and gets a very generous eyeful, not only of obi-wan's strong shoulders, his broad, hairy chest and arms, the delicious trail of hair leading down from his navel...but also his huge cock. it's. it's all anakin can think about for weeks after.
#he asks padmé to peg him#she does#and that's the only way they have sex for a while because anakin only has MASSIVE COCK on the brain#obikin
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For the life of me, I cannot work out what Palpatine’s actual plan was in Attack of the Clones. The Phantom Menace’s core plot is relatively straightforward (though the film forgetting to let the audience know Sidious and Palpatine are the same person leaves it appearing unhinged); Darth Palpatine persuades Trade Federation to invade Naboo to manufacture a crisis -> Senator Sidious persuades Padmé to call for Vote of No Confidence when current Chancellor can’t fix crisis -> Big Bad is elected head of state. In Attack of the Clones though, it feels like the evil schemes are missing some connective tissue. I can see what Palpatine’s goals were, but I have no clue how he was planning to achieve half of them, so it looks like he just got unreasonably lucky.
Sub-objectives of Palpatine’s evil plan for galactic domination;
The Jedi need to discover the clone army on Kamino (as close to the beginning of the war as possible; too far before will make it more likely the Jedi will seriously investigate the army’s origin or decide clone slave armies are bad).
Ideally, the Jedi should also discover the existence of the Separatists’ secret droid army because that will make them much more likely to deploy the clone army.
Get someone in the Senate to put forward a resolution to grant emergency powers to Supreme Chancellor Palpatine (as close to the beginning of the war as possible; if Palpatine has emergency powers when there isn’t a war, he’s more likely to be asked to give them up).
Have tensions between Separatists and Republic Loyalists continue to rise until things turn violent somewhere triggering the start of the war – but both sides need to look both plausibly reasonable and culpable.
Ideally, the Jedi should appear as the aggressors in the first battle of the Clone Wars because this will help turn public opinion against them.
Dooku needs to wave his edgy red lightsaber around in front of the Jedi so they will peg him as Count Evil McBadguy and ignore everything he says because it’s obviously a Sith trick. Convincing the Jedi that the Separatists are bad actors wilfully following their ancient enemy will go a long way to prevent them from attempting diplomatic solutions rather than violent ones.
Ideally, it shouldn’t become public knowledge that the Jedi had no idea about the existence of the clone army that was ordered in their name. If people don’t know the Jedi weren’t aware of the army, they will assume the Jedi have known for the last decade and hid the army on purpose because it was their secret army.
Kill Padmé because she’s blocking the Military Creation Act from passing through the Senate and because Palpatine doesn’t want her pulling any more solutions that he hasn’t predicted and can’t counter out from under her wig, like she did in the previous film by allying with the Gungans.
Maybe kill Jango Fett too. He was hired by “Tyranus” which is Dooku’s super-secret Sith name. If he knows Dooku was involved in commissioning the clone army, he might let that slip – and that information is horribly suspicious.
(Kill Obi-Wan because he’s Anakin’s competing father-figure. If Obi-Wan dies, Anakin won’t become attached to his new Jedi Master to the extent he was Obi-Wan, leaving him more vulnerable to Palpatine’s manipulations in his grief. Not super practical at this time because his main proxy is Dooku who would prefer to kill Anakin and keep Obi-Wan.)
Events play out perfectly to Palpatine’s advantage, with the exception that Padmé survives the film. But it seems implausible that he could have known those chains of events would or could occur.
Did Palpatine really know that the Kaminoans manufacture a unique style of poison darts? And that Jango Fett would add those darts to his arsenal and use them to kill Zam Wesell in front of the Jedi instead of shooting her with a blaster? And that Obi-Wan’s friend Dex Jettster would be able to recognise a Kaminoan dart? If Jango Fett leading Obi-Wan from Kamino to Geonosis was part of the plan, then why did Fett try to kill him so hard with the energy bombs instead of pretending not to notice he was being followed? Why try to kill Obi-Wan at all? Obi-Wan only sent the message about the clone army back to the Jedi Council on Geonosis, so him dying before that on Kamino would have been grossly inconvenient.
Does anyone have thoughts on what the hell is going on here? Was Taun We eventually just going to show up at the Temple with a clipboard to ask the Jedi which one of them was going to sign for delivery of their five million identical human men? How does a plan like that give Dooku the opportunity to show off his new red glowstick?
#Meanwhile in a Galaxy Far Far Away#star wars meta#attack of the clones#the Separatist Crisis#stars wars prequels#attack of the clones critical
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Anakin Assists the Jedi Council While On Medical Leave
AU brainstormed primarily by @atagotiak, @gelpenss, and myself.
Basically, a fix-it based in Anakin getting a peek into the daily life on the Council early, and accidentally Figuring Some Shit Out along the way, mostly because Palps Fucks Up.
So, Anakin gets injured in a way that limits him to Coruscant for a few weeks. He can still walk and talk, but he can't fight. The specific injury doesn't matter, just this:
Anakin runs errands on behalf of the council and sits in on meetings to take minutes as a "you're on medical leave but we need all hands on deck, congrats you get to be the secretary until we can send you on stabbing missions again" thing.
Also, there just aren't a whole lot of people with Anakin's clearance level. They had to send out Stass Allie to handle the mission that was originally next on Anakin's roster, and Anakin's the most convenient person to substitute into her position.
He's not super happy about this but he can more or less understand the point of it. Given that he gets antsy about needing to fight almost immediately, he can acknowledge the worth of having something useful to do, if only as the person who's writing down who says what and making sure everyone has the right file on hand.
(Besides, Obi-Wan jokes in a way that Anakin thinks might be encouraging, this is good practice if Anakin ever wants to be on the High Council himself!)
(This is a very helpful conversation.)
BASICALLY, Anakin is resigned to this but agrees because "Usually we have Master Allie handle this but we need her running that mission that was originally set for the 501st, so you get to fill in for her until you can switch back. Think of it as training for eventual mastery or admin or--listen, we're just really stretched thin."
Here's the key thing, though: Anakin isn't supposed to leave the Temple, for medical reasons, so Palpatine doesn't know Anakin is sitting in on Council meetings. They haven't met up since Anakin's last surgery, and because [muffled hand-wave reason] he didn't find out another way, like Anakin comming him or the Council giving him the heads-up about the change in attendance.
It's fine. He's just taking notes and doing preparatory research, he has the clearance, the Chancellor likes him anyway. Hell, they'd have had someone's Padawan doing this, before the war increased the necessary clearance levels. They'll toss in a quick message in the brief they send to Palps that he never reads anyway, and that's really all they need to do. Skywalker's getting some rounded experience and this way the medics won't be freaking out about him stressing his heart after getting electrocuted by trying to spar too early.
Palpatine doesn't talk directly to the Council, he just sends a recording the first time Anakin is there. It's a bit weird, but nothing goes wrong. Anakin's off-screen from whatever device they use to send a response, since he's not technically a member, just assisting for a bit on the part of Master Allie's duties that he's actually allowed to touch (and not the bits that are getting added to Mace, Plo, and Shaak's stuff).
The first four or so meetings are like that. Anakin starts having a bit of sympathy for the Council as he sees how many things they want to do that are hampered by the need for Senatorial approval, things that he would also want to do and didn't think required this much red tape.
About a week in, still mostly recordings with Anakin just sitting on the side playing paralegal, the wheel of fortune turns a few pegs.
Palpatine hands over a an order on the range of injury that a soldier should be treated for, "to ensure that republic resources aren't being wasted on clones that, while expensive, would actually be cheaper to replace than repair."
Oh, he dresses it up in prettier language than that. Anakin doesn't process it as such first.
The Chancellor manages to couch his phrasing in "prioritizing resources for taxpaying republic citizens and employees of the GAR," which... well.
The natborn commissioned officers pay taxes. The Jedi are employees. The clones are neither, because they're slaves.
Probably he frames it as the employees thing, very much the kinda language that sounds halfway ok unless you’re fluent in political bullshit.
And Anakin is really confused at first about why the council is upset by the order because, okay, he would PREFER to be able to use medical supplies on refugees when possible, but he understands prioritizing the soldiers?
He just looks up, totally lost, when someone groans and goes, "That's the third time this year, is he trying to get us all killed?"
And it vibes as such a genuine, aggrieved, sad reaction that Anakin is completely blindsided because it's not the sarcastic, petty resentment he kind of expected? It's just... desperate depression.
And someone gently has to explain that this is the third time they've had resources restricted to only GAR employees and that it's a polite way of saying "prioritize natborn officers, stop wasting resources on clones, we can replace them easier."
Or maybe he doesn't ask, because he's just there to take notes, not argue, and he can see the masters drawing up a response that amounts to "We would like to remind you that our soldiers do not fall into that classification, and to limit their access to our medical supplies is liable to cause a loss of life that we find unreasonably high. Please see the annotations attached to adjust wording so that the clones may receive the same level of care."
Anakin's internally just like "Yeah, that's phrased nice and addresses the main problem, Palpatine will obviously agree and change it!"
And then he comes in the next day and the response comes in and it's just dripping condescension about considering the clones actual people.
"This is why we can't use the bacta tanks on clones anymore, just the patches. We could use them at first, we had a few of the CCs get through fatal injuries with them, but they cut that off and said we could only use the tanks on Jedi and non-clone officers a few months ago. The Banking Clans keep tightening their belts on the army, and the Chancellor insists we put citizens first, and the clones aren't citizens. We've been arguing back as much as we can, but he keeps going on about the economy and we can't... we just can't, Skywalker. We're trying to save as many of our men as we can, but..."
Something like "Allocation of resources reiterated, the Kaminoans have assured the senate that the Jedi are far from exhausting the resources ordered."
And Anakin's like. He can't blame the council for lying about Palpatine's past or future actions. He just saw Palpatine's actions. Those actions were to order people under his control to throw away lives he saw as replaceable commodities.
These are his friends' lives.
His soldiers are being thrown away by a man in a tower that he trusted.
And then that man has the gall to suggest it's the council's fault.
Palpatine is good at what he does, especially in public, he dresses it up in flowery language and everything, but Anakin's just like "Those are my FRIENDS and also this is??? How slavers talked about their property on Tatooine???? FRIENDPATINE, WHAT THE FUCK."
Anakin can be passive aggressive sometimes as well as outright aggressive. So if he brings up the guidelines and why they make him upset in general terms, and Palpatine says something about how he’s sad the council doesn’t care about the clones...
Anakin, internally, having just watched the council scramble to save as many clones as possible within the guidelines that Palps handed down: Uh-huh.
(Anakin is just the gay horror teeth gif from queer eye.)
Just. “Yeah, funny you say that, Palpatine! Because as I remember, you told the council not to waste more resources than necessary while Mace Windu was arguing to expand the treatment range!”
Palps doesn't even have time to salvage the situation or attack Anakin because Anakin just bulldoze rants for fifteen minutes and then storms out.
Anakin... maybe does a little treason and gets a copy of the orders so he can ask Padme "Hey, can you explain the politics of this?" and doesn't tell her who wrote it so she isn't biased (he tells her that this is why he's not sharing the author's/speaker's name), and just lets Padme pick apart all the 'this is a nice way of saying they don't view the clones as people' details.
Alternately, someone on the Council sees Anakin dithering and manages to get him to admit that he's not great at political language and wants to ask someone to help him understand the full implications. The person--Mace? let's go with Mace--is aware that Anakin is on good terms with Senator Amidala, if not necessarily aware of the depth of said relationship. Mace points out that he's probably going to be seeing her soon just because he usually does and, as a Senator, she can get easy access to these sessions since they're not about specific missions, just allocation of resources, etc. It's not an optimal solution, but she's got a bit more free time than anyone else Anakin knows with the clearance levels, like Order members that are actively involved in the war effort.
Anakin dithers and panics and Mace, trying to be helpful, tells him that plenty of Jedi have made friends among the Senate over the years, didn't you know Qui-Gon Jinn was a personal friend of Former Chancellor Valorum?
At any rate, Anakin goes to Padme and asks her to explain it to him, because she knows how to phrase things so he gets it.
Anakin has to have her pause and he goes outside and destroys some things halfway through.
(Anakin maybe thinks back to the times Padmé or Obi-Wan were really obviously frustrated and when he asked, they said stuff like “I can’t stand Palpatine rn, sorry Anakin I know he’s important to you and you don’t want to talk about politics, let’s just talk about something else.”)
(Obi-Wan: I don’t trust Palpatine Anakin: you just don’t like politicians in general Obi-Wan: yes that is also true)
(Obi-Wan does like Bail and Padme but he does also talk a bit about how politicians generally aren’t to be trusted.)
#Anakin Skywalker#Sheev Palpatine#Jedi High Council#Mace Windu#fix it fic#star wars#star wars prequels#Phoenix Posts#Padme Naberrie
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oooo tell me more about this obianidala lakeside smut!!
HI HELLO I'M SO GLAD YOU ASKED (thank you!!!)
this is one of the wips i've written the most on, and I do plan on finishing it at some point, especially since i have almost 8000 words of it already- but anyway.
literally nothing but married obianidala smut with not-so-light dom/sub undertones, where, however, anakin is a very well-behaved sub and his two doms are way too soft to actually be strict with him. (the lakeside is only because they're in varykino, where they live very happily as a family of 5)
there's a lot of love going around, classic fanon force-communication, anakin has his hands tied for most of it, padmé's got a cyber strap-on that allows her to feel touch as she pegs anakin, and obi-wan tries to make everyone happy before he takes care of his own needs <3
spicy snippets under the cut, obviously very smutty
shoot an ask if you want to know more about my wips!
“What does he want?” she asks, and can feel Obi-Wan’s breath hitch as, surely, Anakin projects into his mind him very graphic, specific images.
“He’d like to fuck you, if you’d let him,” Obi-Wan says, hooking his fingers again for good measure, and making her moan. “Fuck your hot cunt from behind, while you suck my cock together.”
Those filthy words spoken in Obi-Wan’s gentle voice and sophisticated accent would be almost enough to send her over the edge, even without having his fingers slowly, continuously fucking her, while his thumb softly brushes over her clit.
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At the same time, however, the wave of relief that ripples out of Anakin when Obi-Wan takes him into his mouth again is strong enough to make Obi-Wan’s shiver, and even worse, or well, better, the pleasure that follows as he slides down on him, slowly, reaching far enough to make him gag, before pulling up again.
Anakin’s hunger, as Obi-Wan bobs his head along his cock a couple of times, feels like an engine revving up. The same heat, the same strength, the same restlessness, except all of it directed like blaster fire at Obi-Wan’s already weak pretence of self-control.
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“Can you feel what he’s feeling?” she asks Obi-Wan as she presses a hand against Anakin’s ass, spreading his cheeks. Her other hand moves so she can trail the edge of Anakin’s hole with a slicked up finger, just as Obi-Wan nods.
“Good,” she murmurs, low enough that she could be speaking to herself, but she’s smiling at Obi-Wan when she presses a finger inside Anakin. He’s already been loosened by the plug, so she only waits the time it takes her to coat his insides with lube before she thrusts in two fingers. The way both Anakin and Obi-Wan gasp at the same time makes laughter bubble in her chest.
#ask game#obianidala#cecilia writes#wip game#i've been writing this fic for almost a year#but i swear i'll finish it#or die trying#rexismycopilot#thank you!!!!!!!
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“Unused Edits” compilation
So I’m a tad savvy with the ol’ photoshops. And sometimes I answer stuff on Quora. Below is a compilation of collages and edits I’ve made specifically to answer questions I was asked on Quora.
Mainly uploading em here because the “Fan-Art” section on my blog was looking sort of desolate, but I didn’t find the time to draw something new ^^'
I’ll keep updating it now and then.
Normal collages & edits
An attempt at making a live-action remake of the scene in Rebels, Season 2 Episode 18, when Yoda shows Ezra what happened in the Clone Wars.
Related to the previous picture, this one essentially represents how Sidious basically had two apprentices to enact both the public and secret aspects of his plan.
Maul is great for assassinations, criminal things and the sort… underworld stuff. You need someone to control a bunch of crime syndicates from the shadows, or murder a Senator, Maul’s your guy.
But Dooku, on the other hand, is a publicly known character, he’s the charismatic ex-Jedi, he is supposed to be a political figure in spotlight in the war to come, rallying systems to the Separatist cause with bold speeches, doing the fine dining on Canto Bight, etc.
If Maul is the boots on the ground, cloak & dagger Sith Apprentice, Dooku is the big picture, public relations Sith Apprentice.
Used as a compilation of Maul being being arrogant to illustrate how that’s, like, his thing.
He gets overconfident when he has the upper hand, which causes his downfall every single time.
Every time he has a moment of victory, he basks in his own glory, and gets taken down a peg for it instead of keeping his eye on the prize.
Made this mainly to show the Rebels design style isn’t really that exaggerated, especially compared to the one in The Clone Wars.
Like, when we’re talking about adapting Ahsoka’s design or the Grand Inquisitor, everybody tends to post a picture of TCW Dooku and say “Christopher Lee” didn’t actually look like this.
And, I mean... sure. But that’s not relevant because both those characters’ features weren’t shown in TCW, but in Rebels, where they’re less cartoonish. So assuming they’d look similar in live-action isn’t foolish or far-fetched.
Dual GIF used for a comparison between the scene in Revenge of the Sith, where Palpatine reveals himself as Sidious to Anakin and when, in Rise of Skywalker, he reveals himself to Kylo. The scenes are similar on paper:
Sidious reveals a disturbing piece of information to a conflicted Skywalker trained in the Jedi arts.
The Skywalker holds his lightsaber’s blade up to Sidious face.
Sidious stops him by promising him power.
Difference is that, while he promised Anakin a power that the latter could use to save someone else, he promises Kylo power that he can use selfishly. Plus, while the offer he makes to Anakin is a lie, the Final Order’s fleet is a very real possibility for Kylo.
Also, emotionally-speaking, we’re at completely different levels.
The stakes are higher, in Revenge of the Sith. Anakin finds out this father figure is essentially the Devil and puts up one last attempt at being brave and facing the darkness before folding because of his fear of losing Padmé.
In Rise of Skywalker, this isn’t Kylo’s last moment of bravery, this is just one darksider contemplating killing another one. That’s it. Very generic.
Compilation of Vader being a hilarious asshole in Legends.
Alternative diagrams as the ones used in this post, only with text detailing what’s going on.
And an earlier draft of the “Balance Destroyed” diagram.
Other edits based on screenshots from BTS footage.
What-Ifs...
"What if Dooku trained Anakin in The Phantom Menace instead of Obi-Wan?”
Welp, seeing as Dooku was already a Sith by then, he trains Anakin as his disciple, à la Ventress. Only for Sidious to orchestrate a fight between the two of them and making the winner his next apprentice.
“Who would win, if Windu fought Snoke?”
AU where Anakin tells Mace about him and Padmé, about his dreams, etc, just as he says Palpatine’s a Sith Lord.
Mace stops everything, sits Anakin down, and listens to him.
“Who would win, if Maul and Vader teamed up against Sidious?”
This was honestly just me pitching an idea for a “Master Luke” animated show, set between ROTJ and TFA.
One of the over-arching villains of the first season (we can’t have it be just Snoke and the Knights of Ren) I thought could be Oppo Rancisis, whose mind has completely gone from living in solitude, sort of like Joruus C’Baoth.
Someone asked how an interaction between Ezra and Qui-Gon would go. I put this together and wrote some dialogue to go with it.
Buncha pictures for an AU where Mace spares Palpatine and takes him prisoner. Sidious manages to escape and goes into hiding.
When Ahsoka comes back from Mandalore, Sidious breaks Maul out, and the two decide to go in hiding and get ready to mount a counter-attack with the galaxy’s criminal syndicates.
Someone asked “what if Dooku went to Theed alongside Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan?”
Once again, Dooku is a Sith by this point in time. So he’d make sure the cameras were facing another direction, then would side with Maul and together they’d make short work of the Jedi.
But that’d never happen anyway because Dooku is too recognizable and Sidious wouldn’t allow him to expose himself in that way.
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the bed comfortably cramped
read it on the AO3 at https://archiveofourown.org/works/40261107 by egeria They hadn't discussed it in detail– Anakin knew that Padmé and Obi-Wan had explored each other's bodies, but also hadn't gone all the way yet. He didn't know if it was just something Obi-Wan wasn't interested in or not. But Anakin definitely knew that he himself was very interested. "Obi-Wan?" he asked, looking up at him, sitting back on his heels. "When can we fuck?" -- or: the first time the trio has (penetrative) sex, with a chapter for anakin/obi-wan, obi-wan/padmé, and then finally, all three. Words: 4582, Chapters: 1/3, Language: English Series: Part 5 of Spank the Dark Side out of Anakin Skywalker Fandoms: Star Wars Prequel Trilogy, Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008) - All Media Types, Star Wars - All Media Types Rating: Explicit Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Categories: F/M, M/M, Multi Characters: Anakin Skywalker, Padmé Amidala, Obi-Wan Kenobi Relationships: Padmé Amidala/Obi-Wan Kenobi/Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi/Anakin Skywalker, Padmé Amidala/Obi-Wan Kenobi Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Dom/sub, Anal Sex, Blow Jobs, Vaginal Sex, Pegging, Coming Untouched, Bottom Anakin Skywalker, Top Obi-Wan Kenobi, Top Padmé Amidala, Submissive Anakin Skywalker, Cunnilingus, Other Additional Tags to Be Added read it on the AO3 at https://archiveofourown.org/works/40261107
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*cracks knuckles* *grins* Questions: 8, 10, 13, 19. *cackles*
oooooh you lil shitLong Post, hit J to skipsorry mobile userswait neverfuckingmind I put it under a cut anyway wt f k e n o p e
8. What is one thing you would change about any movie, show, book, etc?
JA needs to burn, PT must be rewritten to fix various plot hiccups, the clones deserved so much better, Obi-Wan doesn’t deserve such massive levels of grief, and seriously some shit just don’t make sense.
But at this point it’s also difficult for me to distinguish between what is actually canon and what is fanon, or a popular fandom interpretation of canon.
Besides, there’s ReEntry. ReEntry makes sense.
Canon, you’re drunk. Go home.
13. If you could resurrect one dead character, or prevent them from dying, who would it be?
Qui-Gon Jinn. Finis Valorum. Asajj Ventress. Jango Fett. Tahl, Micah. Mace did not die. Padmé did not die, fuck that noise. … Shit. Xanatos.
Long answers under cut:
10. Do you think the Jedi were right or wrong?
Which time?
Ignoring the Sith? Sending Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan alone to Naboo after a suspected Darksider if not Sith? Insisting that they would not train Anakin without offering a single alternative (what in the actual fuck)? Focusing too much on Anakin’s massive potential and Dark possibilities in his future rather than on the nine-year-old boy in front of them?
Making Obi-Wan a War Councilor and spreading him thin as paste across most of Republic Space? Bending and bending and bending before the Senate until they couldn’t even fight back charges against Ahsoka?
Allowing themselves to be run for hundreds of years by an old troll who is the last of his species, with only one other like him, who’s lost generations of friends and children by then, whose only way to cope with that kind of loss is probably repression, and leads to a shift of Jedi philosophy in that general direction?
In some ways, an institution as old as the Republic was doomed to fail eventually.
But, see, the Ruusan Reformation was built to prevent another war with the Sith, to safeguard the Republic against it. Sith were impossible because the Order of that time had taken great pains to wipe out every last vestige of Sith texts and artefacts, save what they kept to learn from themselves.
Isn’t that funny? That’s when they decided to bring younglings to the Temple, to train them early so they would never get out of control and Fall. They destroyed the ancient texts, yet left the door open for the formation of a new and far more dangerous line of Sith.
Yet the Ruussan Reformation wasn’t exactly something they’d readily agreed to. Back in the days before the Reformation, the Jedi had been a truly independent Order. They won the war against the Sith, and protected the Republic worlds with their own army and navy. But when the dust settled, the Chancellor of the Republic told them, well, the Republic will not trust you unless you give up your army and your navy, because they see you as a threat. The Reformation doesn’t say, not in so many words, that the Jedi will come to rely only on the Senate for funds and mission assignments.
You know… the Chancellor at the time was named Tarsus Valorum. He was the first of his family, a line of noted Force Sensitives, not to go to the Jedi, but pursue a career in politics instead. And the Valorum we know of is a direct descendent. Finis, end of the line. Finis, end of the Republic, the Republic falls with him. Yes I am sort of hinting that Tarsus Valorum might’ve been a Sith.
Anyway, clever headcanons aside, it’s so easy to point out where the Order was wrong, but by the time we see them? There’s hardly any ‘right’ to choose. Remember that Valorum had to go behind the Senate’s back to send Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon to Naboo—the Sith certainly didn’t anticipate Jedi involvement.
Still, you ask if the Jedi were ever right. When given the option, multiple times over the course of apprenticeship and Knighthood, to leave the Order, what did Obi-Wan choose? Anakin? They chose to stay. So, in the end, there must have been something right about that, don’t you think?
19. What’s your opinion on legends/expanded universe?
Um.
Well it’s… interesting. I periodically go diving into Wookiepedia, which is like broken telephone research in a lot of cases—there isn’t even a guarantee that the person who wrote the page got the point of the original source, or that a minor detail I would find immensely useful ever made it to the page. Some things are outright crazy. Some things are spectacular. Some things are outright spectacularly contradictory.
Legends saw great potential, took it, ran with it, sometimes to Olympus and sometimes off a bloody cliff. JA can burn, but at the same time, while most of JA feels like a poorly-drawn caricature, characters like Zan Arbor are unforgettable. Were I to, idk, in some fever dream, decide write Sidious as a woman, Zan Arbor would be the place I’d start, I think. Certain JA events seem to me important enough to keep.
On the one hand, it was nice to get hard details on the shape of economic warfare the Sith waged on the Republic. On the other hand, Sidious’s origin is the most bizarre bit of horseshit I’ve ever seen summarised on a Wookie-page and the very idea that Plageuis was still alive near the time of Naboo makes me shake with rage because it (high on the list of shit I thought I never would say) robs Palpatine of something vital to his character.
In much the same way, I can’t stand that TCW overwrote the comics’ ending for Valorum, even showed him active in politics again like his career hadn’t ended with the Vote of No Confidence. That was a death sentence in itself. And, since TCW can technically be considered Legends material, parts of it I simply cannot accept. It filled an important blank, when it came to the ROTS portrayal of Order 66. In ROTS, it looked like some grand conspiracy, but the introduction of the chips was wrenching and necessary. TCW did a lot for clone feels, and for our feels for secondary characters in the movies—like Plo Koon, yes, hello, you can pry my favourite Jedi dad from my cold dead fingers. On the other hand, Maul, suddenly returned to life? There are ways that can be done, and done well. This, in my view, was not one of them.
Rebels… I haven’t seen Rebels, so this part should be taken with a grain of salt, but little individual plot points I’ve seen fill me with no great confidence. I’m seriously spoiled by @deadcatwithaflamethrower RE:JotW Echo timeline. Actually overall I’m spoiled by ReEntry.
Yet, it’s the Legends tab of Wookiepedia that gives you a much richer understanding of Twi'lek and Ryl culture. Say what you will about fetishising and misogyny—and fandom is certainly prone to that when given Twi'lek slave culture as a vehicle for it—it’s incredibly interesting to see how Twi'lek culture changed, adapted, took advantage of others’ perception to hide something far more deadly, their very own Resistance movement. Whoever went so far in depth with Ryl and Twi'lek culture knew a thing or two about what they were doing.
Similarly, the Legends expansion of Mandalorian culture is spectacular, and sheds an uncomfortable light on the TCW Mandalore. At times, certainly at times like these, conflict between different Legends sources is incredible. (Though, give me a reason to take Satine down a peg and I’ll take it, and I’m still not sure that isn’t ingrained misogyny on my part.)
I can’t speak to Legends’ treatment of female characters, either. The characters I am familiar with? Ventress, Komari Vosa? Those stories don’t end well. Unfortunately I don’t have much time or, truthfully, inclination, to research every single character who exists only in the comics and books, particularly if I don’t often work with that part of the timeline.
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