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haysilee to gadge pipeline because haymitch is out here making jokes about gale having a thing for madge's strawberries. and i genuinely wonder if that has anything to do with him, a seam boy, also once upon a time being charmed by & growing to respect a privileged semi-annoying but otherwise well meaning girl who wasn't what he expected and was brave and good and smart and better than what he had previously thought of her
#enemies to lovers i always win#it helps that madge is literally maysilee's niece#gadge#haysilee#it's about the vibes i don't believe either of these were canonically romantic#gale x madge#haymitch x maysilee#thg#sotr#sunrise on the reaping#anna speaks
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Ohhhhhh maysilee fans, it's our time!
Great analysis here OP! I love the point you made about Collins' intentionality with theming and complementary characters and the examples you cited!
I'm also a fan of the idea that part of why Haymitch is so insistant about Katniss and Peeta sticking together is because what happened when he and Maysilee broke off their alliance haunts him. Ditto about haysilee as gender inverted everlark. Which intrigues me because everlark in and of itself already subverts a lot gender stereotypes with Katniss as the emotionally withdrawn protector and huntress, and Peeta as the charming, adept performer and sensitive soul.
I've always had a pet theory that the version of the 2nd QQ Katniss sees on the tape is highly edited and rather bare bones. (I've been toying with the idea that the gamemakers had always intended to give Haymitch a villainous/underhanded edit but had to pivot HARD when he ended up winning). So I'm super on board for an exploration of how media conceals or distorts the truth to the masses both as it relates to the 50th games and in general.
Took the words out of mouth about the mockingjay being multiple people and a symbol of hope and love persisting even in the face of brutality, injustice, and cruelty!!!
Thank you for breaking down the title Sunrise on the Reaping! This is probably the biggest revelation for me because I've been in the habit of thinking of the 2nd QQ as a tragedy and all that entails (particularly I've been thinking of the arena as a kind of underworld from which a mythical spouse may either be recovered or trapped for all time). But sunrise unequivocally conveys hope, and as you pointed out, evokes the notion of new beginnings and light that exposes the truth.
HUNGER GAMES (SUNRISE ON THE REAPING) THEORIES: the "sunrise" over the reaping is maysilee
I have been going so absolutely bats off the wall ever since the SOTR announcement that I spent a whole day formulating my theories into in-depth essays and backing them up with canon... here ya go.
So, after some analysis of everything we know about the saga, chapter 14 of Catching Fire, and how Collins writes so far...
I present my theory on the new hunger games book: that the "sunrise" over the reaping is symbolic of Maysilee Donner, the former owner of the mockingjay pin.
I think Maysilee is going to be a symbol of the goodness, kindness, light, etc, of humanity, in the face of the reaping, in the face of violence and war. Aka the theme of the entire series. Aka a symbol of defiance just like Lucy Gray and her kindness. I mean, losing all his metaphorical light is what causes Haymitch to become a drunk... And likely to become so protective over Katniss and Peeta.
I also think the cover is going to have a mockingjay and a sunrise. Cause, Suzanne Collins is VERY intentional about her titles. The themes she uses. The imagery. The covers. It's all part of the story.
HOW COLLINS HAS USED THEME BEFORE
TBOSAS was called "songbird and snakes" which was symbolic of the nature of good vs. evil.
There's essays everywhere about how the songbird represents good (in Lucy Gray) and how the snake represents evil (in Coriolanus Snow), how they are symbolically shown to have both natures by using both snakes and songbirds as weapons, but one nature ultimately prevails. TBOSAS is about the struggle between humanity's two natures, and how we can ultimately prevail in one or the other. The crest of the mockingjay and the snake, is symbolic of said theme.
Songbirds represent everything Lucy Gray is—free, wild, untamed, kind, colorful, a singer, a performer, honest and moral and true and good.
Snakes represent everything Coriolanus Snow is—deceptive, cunning, ruthless, adaptable, charming, determined to survive, everything sly and wicked and game playing.
And yet, they are shown to have the inverse as well. Lucy Gray is also cunning, and deceptive, and determined to survive. Coryo is also caring (about certain people), honest (he's bad at lying, and in THG he agrees to never lie to Katniss), and enjoys the idea of freedom.
They wield both natures and this struggle is portrayed throughout the story. Hence: A Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. Hence: a snake and a bird on the cover.
Suzanne Collins is also no stranger to complimentary characters.
Lucy Gray and Snow are inverses of each other, both similar and wildly different. They work well... Until the difference in their nature tears them apart.
She makes use of complimentary characters to emphasize theme throughout her books, constantly. We see with Katniss and Peeta, how Katniss is war-torn, distrusting, afraid, how easily she could become like Snow, how her motivations for security could become corrupted into a ruthlessness to survive just like Snow was driven by his fear. She is difficult, jaded, and tormented, but underneath that she does have a heart of gold and wants goodness to prevail.
Peeta is her dandelion in the spring, her hope, representative of the goodness left in humanity, he seems soft but he is a lot stronger than his peers would think or give him credit for. She clings to him because in a world of darkness he serves as light, as a reminder that not everyone is selfish, that kindness and morality do exist even if she's inclined to think people just are out for themselves.
He is full of light and her darkness falls for that because she needs light and goodness to heal, to believe, to fight for.
He is her compliment, where she is afraid, a survivor and a fighter, and sometimes rude or selfish seeming, and struggles to show her emotions and how much she cares, more like Haymitch—
Peeta is kind, brave, soft, and charming, has a way with people's hearts, and yet also strong in his own ways and in his morals, determined not to let the capitol force him to lose his humanity.
This nature of humanity, of goodness, of light, is reflected in other characters.
Prim is that role to Katniss as well. She is a soft girl, innocent, sensitive, tender hearted, kind, a healer, which is part of why Katniss loves her so much.
Prim is a reminder of humanity, which Katniss needs, and it's why Katniss chooses Peeta over Gale. Prim is also contrasted against Katniss. Rue likewise, is similar, she's a symbol of hope and kindness set against Katniss.
We see this utilization of complimentary characters all over— Haymitch and Effie, one being a crude yet intelligent and snarky arrogant tormented and drunken victor from District 12, the other being a prim and proper rich Capitol girl, airheaded, brainwashed, sheltered, yet endearing and caring all the same. They're polar opposites, but they work so well together, both as teammates and as friends. There's a reason the fandom ships them and sees them as the beer uncle and wine aunt of THG, as parental roles to Katniss and Peeta.
Suzanne Collins knows what she's doing. She knows how to write characters that compliment or parallel each other and how to weaponize symbolism and imagery for a powerful theme. (Katniss and Peeta, Lucy Gray and Snow, Haymitch and Effie, Katniss and Prim, Prim and Rue, Katniss and Snow, Rue and the mockingjay, Snow and Coin)
HOW THIS APPLIES TO SUNRISE ON THE REAPING
If she describes young Haymitch as arrogant, snarky, nonchalant, dangerous, smart, capable, etc... Maysilee is likely gonna be his compliment: kind, moral, gentle, soft, willing to call his more selfish means out.
She's the one who saves him and had the idea for the alliance. She's the one who split because she didn't want it to come down to killing each other.
I am convinced the reason Haymitch sets up Peeta and Katniss to work together as teammates from district 12, is because he did that with Maysilee.
He's doing what him and Maysilee failed to do. They agreed to break off the alliance, and look what happened. She died. Why do you think he's so insistent on Katniss and Peeta working together? That Peeta is keeping her alive, that she doesn't deserve him, that she should be more grateful?
Because he sees Maysilee in Peeta, and himself in Katniss. Haysilee (regardless of if they're a ship or platonic) is a gender reversed parallel to Everlark. Perhaps he's harder on Katniss because he sees himself in her, and kinder to Peeta because he sees Maysilee in him. For all we know, Haysilee could have even incited their own rebellion that the capitol snuffed out (suzanne said the main theme of SOTR was essentially propaganda and lies, covering up the truth for the masses).
MAYSILEE IS SOFT LIKE MADGE & PRIM
Further on why I think Maysilee will be a soft sunshine girl—because her niece, MADGE, is exactly that. Golden haired, kind, softened. Selfless. Everything the capitol tries to destroy. Everything the capitol sees as rebellion.
Madge likely got her soft nature from her mom or her aunt (Maysilee), who are twins. They also all have sunshine golden hair.
It's essentially implied Madge is like her aunt.
And guess what? Prim is a blond soft girl and it's implied she's like HER mom, who was close friends with Maysilee.
Katniss' mom was also a soft girl before the trauma shut her down. Clearly Prim gets her own sunshine healer nature from her mother, because Katniss is more is rugged and protective like her father. She fills in for protecting them when he dies, and even notes her mom is too soft and fragile to deal with certain hardships the way Katniss does.
If Katniss' mother is friends with Maysilee, not to mention their daughter and niece are both soft healer kind sunshine girls who seem to take after the rest of their family.... It's likely that Maysilee is like Prim and Madge. Birds of a feather flock together and all. Of course they would bond.
MAYSILEE IS A SYMBOL OF LIGHT
Here's more on why I think the sunrise is Maysilee.
Madge gave the mockingjay pin to Katniss, from Maysilee. SHE WAS THE FORMER OWNER OF THE MOCKINGJAY PIN. THE WHOLE REASON THE REVOLUTION STARTED.
Maysilee is another form the mockingjay takes. Just like Lucy Gray, just like Rue—a symbol of hope and resistance. A tribute from District 12, so determined not to let the capitol change her true nature, to take her humanity and morals, that it lights the spark to create a fire.
Do you think Haymitch looks at Katniss, and sees Maysilee's pin? Do you think he sees the mockingjay prevail in the face of the reapings, and all he can see is her?
"Sunrise on the reaping" is a symbolic title. This is Suzanne Collins. This is how she writes.
"A ballad of songbirds and snakes" summarizes the themes of that book, the nature of good vs evil. Lucy Gray is the songbird, Snow the snake.
"Sunrise on the reaping" translates to light, hope, new beginnings, in the middle of war and violence.
Collins said this book was going to focus on propaganda, how the media LIES to people, puts them in the dark for easy submission, to not see the truth.
You know what you need to illuminate the darkness of a lie? To see anything at all, including the truth?
Light. You need the sun. A sunrise.
Real or not real? How do you see what's real if you don't have the light to see it by?
Sunrise ON the reaping. Not over. ON.
A sunrise casts light ON the reaping. On the violence of the capitol.
Kindness and hope casts light on the bleak violence and darkness of the capitol. Our humanity is the one true form of resistance. It's the main theme of the series.
This book is going to be about casting light on lies and darkness. On the capitol. The book will be about light prevailing over darkness.
About kindness and hope being the truth that acts as defiance against violent propaganda. Against Snow's beliefs that "there is no hope for humanity, we are all dark and twisted."
This book will be the inverse of Snow and Gaul, of TBOSAS. If Ballad is about how humanity can fall into darkness and evil, Reaping is its compliment, it's about how humanity can be light and good.
All darkness -> light exists -> fire sparks
(Ballad) (Reaping) (Catching Fire)
(@ aurynauthor on Instagram summarized that for me<3)
Maysilee is the sun, the warmth to start a FIRE... Her niece gives Katniss, the girl on fire... Her mockingjay pin.
Maysilee, perhaps, is the true mockingjay.
Katniss compares her death to Rue's, when she watches Haymitch's games. We thought Rue was the mockingjay, but... What if the mockingjay isn't just one person? What if the mockingjay is a symbol, something larger than life, something anyone with the kindness and heart and resistance to stand against evil can be? Like how Katniss and Peeta publicly honor and mourn their fallen tributes when they ought to be entertained alongside the capitol, who is aghast by such displays of emotion.
Maybe that light is some of what the capitol is covering up with propaganda in this book, but it escaped in the form of the pin and Haymitch's survival.
The mockingjay is everyone. Lucy Gray, Rue, Katniss... Maysilee.
Perhaps when Haymitch sees that pin on Katniss, he remembers. When the mockingjay becomes a symbol of resistance, when Maysilee's sunlight sparks the heat for a flame... Perhaps then Haymitch can understand why Maysilee saved him. Why he was the one to survive, and she was the martyr.
How her legacy and her pin lived on even after she faded from history, just like the mockingjay bird itself—small and insignificant, survived against all odds, becoming something stronger.
Maybe, even after her death, even when he forgets the good she taught him and he gets drunk to block out the memories of what happened afterwards, when he has to train up a girl with a mouth of fire and a mockingjay pin, and a boy with a heart of gold and the wits to survive, District 12 tributes, teammates, children he sees someone else in...
Even after the truth of what really happened on the 50th Hunger Games is lost to history and propaganda. Even after all the death and violence.
After all the darkness, the lies Snow preaches, that humanity will always fall into selfishness and survival and cruelty, that nothing and no one can prevail or be different.
Maybe Maysilee and her kindness was the sunrise on his reaping.
#insightful analysis!#wasn't expecting this from Suzanne tbh#but i trust that themes and symbols will be richly woven#maysilee donner is THAT girl#we simultaneously know a lot and nothing about her#that's what happens when there's lots of symbols ascribed to her#but she has like 4 lines of dialogue#the canary in particular...#we're reminded of maysilee in what is functionally a set up for wiress's death#plus the candy symbolism#you can't convince me that Suzanne didn't have more in mind#but yeah the haysilee/everlark parallels are spot on#<- fr#maysilee donner#sunrise on the reaping#sotr
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hello sorry for just randomly dropping in but i'm thinking about the treemina-haysilee-clato pipeline since you posted about it but i'm a book treemina person so i'm thinking about how cato and haymitch both had to watch clove and maysilee die but treech got there too late and only came across lamina's body so he had to live knowing he didn't get there in time to hold her hand when she was dying and. i had to share. ok bye
i saw the content of this ask and i was immediately like "okay new thg friend 🧡 ". no you're so right!! i don't remember what happened with book treemina which is why i went by the movie instead. but ahhhh, both extremes are awful its literally a which foot do you want to shoot yourself in dilemma
because like, do you want to watch the girl you've grown to care about, the one who's your favorite person in this hellhole and your partner and ally and the person you trust, the one who reminds you of home, die in front of your eyes and all you can do is comfort them? or even worse you don't have to watch the death happen but you come across the body later and you get this sense of everything is too late now, you didn't get there in time and none of it matters and your regret doesn't matter because it's too late to take anything back.
anyways glad to see my tragic district partner's pipeline agenda is spreading!!
#clato#treemina#haysilee#also annie and her boy don't forget them#i forget them all the time but he didn't even get a name so it's like whatevs.#final concluding thought: can you imagine? across SEVEN DECADES. TWELVE PAIRS OF KIDS PER YEAR.#how many times has this happened before clato before even haysilee or treemina where a kid has to watch someone from home die#like it's the same story over and over again and it shouldn't matter bc only one can win the games right? but someone always ends up hurtin#because they care about whoever it is they're sent in with and have to watch them suffer#coral and mizzen. jessup and lucy gray. reaper and dill. Annie and that boy.#etc etc#anna answers#ylvisruinedmylife
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8 & 10 for the ask game <3
8. What is your favorite line/section from [insert fic]?
hey guess what: this one from 5+1 times clato bedshare because every time i read it i just make myself laugh akdhfjfk
"Aren't you going to take your shirt off," she asks quietly, without thinking, and immediately regrets the unfortunate timing. Him forcing her onto her back on the bed without meaning to engage in what is implied to come after, and now her carelessly tossing out a suggestion to undress... not for the first time, Clove entertains the thought that she should have won those Games on her own.
His incredulous laughter further aggravates her already inflamed skin. "Um, do you... do you want me to?" The high pitch of humor in his voice is too much for Clove.
Mortified, she quickly rephrases. "I don't want - you said- it helps you not get overheated." The words stumble over one another. Her knife finding its way to her stomach is the only possible merciful end she can think of for herself, freeing her from this moment.
Cato shakes his head goodnaturedly, dropping the subject. He may be a ruthless killer, but he has no desire for her to suffer. The contradiction in this fact doesn't escape Clove.
like clove miss ma'am think about what you say. and how it SOUNDS omg. also another part that I'm too lazy to copy and paste here but i liked writing him basically admitting that he's glad she went in with him because he's lucky to have her as a district partner 🥰😇🥺
10. Is there a character or ship you'd love to write for, but haven't yet?
omg i wanna write haysilee since I'm like ceo of doomed allyships and i always ramble about treemina/haysilee/clato. also i am having RUMBLINGS of an au idea where treech wins 10th and kind of becomes a d7 font version of haymitch and he lives to see haymitch's games so i can like... analyse the parallels between him/haymitch/lamina+maysilee. it would be funny and super sad for him to see haysilee in the 50th and just get war flashbacks. OH AND i need to write hizzie (from legacies) so baaad
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