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clarabowmp3 · 4 months ago
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hate brigade? I'm sorry but joe alwyn is directly responsible for a lot of the mental hurt that taylor will have to deal with for the rest of her life. I don't understand how people can hear sll, half the songs on midnights not to mention the anxiety ridden lover album and not see the emotional gaslighting joe was putting taylor through! Like that takes a toll and fans qnd the general public alike has a right to call that out. Now he's saying ish about tayvis when none of this concerns him?? Like if that's not manipulative, my name is Bennett cuz he's literally re inserting himself into the ex he resented' life. Unhinged if you ask me. So I don't think it's fair to characterize people as doing the most in this case. Alwyn could have just kept quiet and ate and ate food but now he deserves the dragging. Peace.
wowww wow okay so a couple of things:
we don't know much about their relationship. all we have is speculation based on taylor's lyrics, but we have to remember she is an unreliable narrator, so at best we can take them with a grain of salt. that is excluding how she might have modified certain things to present herself in a favourable light. I'm not saying she did or didn't, but it's a possibility. I say this because of how she's written music about her cheating. She very obviously focuses on how she was feeling and what led her to cheat, rather than her considerations of how it would affect her partner, which I think is yet another manifestation of how she perpetuates her victim narrative. I'm not saying all cheaters are villains, there's definitely some complex emotions involved, but she writes in such a way so as to encourage the reader to root for her by default.
This plays into her desire to be seen as the underdog or hero that everyone wants to support. She did this with Miss Americana too where she spun this whole standing up for women and other marginalised groups narrative, which I think contributed to being a swiftie becoming a trend, along with her whole 'relatable' schtick, fostering personal relationships etc.
There is nothing wrong with liking her music (I'm not gatekeeping), my issue is with people who treat becoming a swiftie as some girl scouts patch to earn by ripping into her 'enemies,' most popularly her exes. Naturally, he has been put through hell on social media since the break-up, up till ttpd dropped and the attention shifted to matty instead.
I agree that many of her love songs from as early as lover are anxiety-ridden, but I think that speaks more to her personality rather than his actions. Certain events may have transpired and he might have acted in a certain way which made her feel insecure etc but we have no reason to think he did it maliciously. What we do have is reason to think this is extremely unlikely. 2016 was rough man, no one knew if she would ever recover from #taylorswiftisoverparty, and yet he still stuck around. To me I think that shows he genuinely cared about her, something taylor has also thought.
Could you elaborate on the emotional gaslighting he has done, (and hence the "mental hurt" he has caused her) keeping in mind all those other reasons why her music is not an accurate source of info ^^?
getting more specific with sll, I don't see how he did anything wrong? I don't want to get too much into it but I know what it feels like to be burdened by someone else's mental health issues, and I do feel irritated by it at times, even though at the end of the day I know it's something they can't control. There's nothing wrong with creating art about difficult emotions, but I think she did not need to release it for the whole world to hear, knowing that they know who she is talking about. The song itself isn't too egregious, she just expresses her frustration with the whole situation ("you'll find someone," "I'm not the one" -> even she doesn't blame him for anything let alone the emotional gaslighting you're accusing him of anon what are you on 😭) the main problem is when people like you use it to villainise joe. like explain to me what part of it shows his gaslighting
For context here is what the whole deuxmoi thing is about, taken from this post:
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You can clearly see that he was expressing an opinion on what he thought was a private enough setting. How could he have known he was going to be overheard and it was going to leak to the internet and eventually reach taylor (if any of this ie even true)? She is his ex of 6 years and it's only been a year since their breakup, I think it's fine that he's still somewhat emotionally occupied with her. We don't know if he obsesses about her every day and since the London travis thing is pretty recent, maybe it was just on his mind that day? Also why does he have to keep quiet? taylor can write whatever she wants in her songs, I think he is more than justified to have a conversation in public. We have no reason to think he meant for this to get out or to "[re-insert] himself into the ex he resented' life," as you put it.
to end off, anon I really think you should touch grass (and I'm not trying to be condescending here) because it feels like you're blowing up select details out of proportion to fit the narrative taylor has created through her music. We don't know how accurate that narrative is.
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i-am-kind-of-lost · 3 years ago
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Heyyyyy
I should not have told that.....but anyways I do lot of embarrassing stuff this one is least so it's all good. But yes i stan her, what can I say she's a trendsetter (i almost went to school like that so understand what my mom put up with)
I really hope cases don't increase too because same I'm done with staying at home. And I don't think our economy can bear with another lockdown.
I hope the sequal isn't disappointing like i remember *cough* black widow *cough* i was sooooooo excited about it and I felt so underwhelmed when i finished the movie for some reason.
I've been wanting to watch it I'll add it to my list for when I get time. Interesting...Alexis sounds nice. I will definitely watch it but after all these exams which are killing me 😭
Exactly they are pressed she's a woman and yeah puppies do look cute but dogs scare me
I admit that is the point of planning..but I thought they were joking and they were like so you're coming right? And I was like huh where? And they were like today evening? And I was like oh yeah sure of course I played along and they didn't say anything so it's all good ig?
Tbh I see relationships as full time employment. Of course it's cute when people are being cute and stuff with eachother minus when it gets cringey but personally it's like....eh I'm good with my friends.
I can't buy drinks either 😞. I'm only 17 I don't know anything.
ALSO I DIDN'T SEE THAT YOU ASKED ME ABOUT MY WRAPPED (my caps was in sorry and I will not retype)
I have two accounts so my auras are as follows-
1. Wistful and focused ( i don't know how to react to this)
2. Confident and yearning (makes sense)
And yes 5 points to Hufflepuff i so hope I'm right
Of course my top artist is Taylor Swift there never will be a doubt. Also Pritam taste i love him.
My top songs are- nothing new, holy ground, this is me trying(I swear I'm mentally stable),Villain by maisie peters and liability by Lorde
And the opening credits-Holy ground
Song i profess my love(lmao)- london boy
I love that song it's a cute fun song the entirety of lover is happy dancing in the bedroom and in love and i love it I don't like the slander.....I just feel strongly about it and I think it's a neat album
Wow I feel strongly about a lot of things....(I said it on our behalf)
But important question- how did you feel about Cruella. And Since yk something embarrassing (or like yk what kind) about me it's your turn now.
Yours truly,
Cupcake
Yes i will write it like letters ✨Sofishticated✨ hand typed stuff yk
If it makes you feel better I have done lots of embarrassing stuff in my life. For example- I used to play cricket alone in my room with a plastic bat and the smiley ball. And I pretended that I scored a six on every ball. So yeah. That was loneliness.
In case you didn't know. The premise is - The Rose family is a filthy rich family. Their accountant screws them out of all their money. So they have to relocate to a suburban town which Johnny Rose(the father) had bought as a joke. You can buy towns in USA. That was my reaction. It starts off as fish out of water comedy but it is so much more. You'll love it.
Oh my god, Black Widow. I feel like I have said this a 100 times by now. They should have made her movie i. 2014-16 when her popularity was at the peak. Or even before Endgame, so that her death felt more meaningful. Or just not make the movie that they made. They could have made a movie about the explanation they gave for Budapest. The thing is, I don't expect Marvel to surprise me, like I don't expect their plots to be Inception level complicated (which I found out 2 months ago, completely ripped off a Japanese animated movie). But at least entertain to kar do. It felt like they didn't even try. Like when they try, they actually make good movies. Shang Chi is so good.
Can't tell you much about relationships. Mine have either been unadulterated disasters or just that weird-limbo-esque thing where you have no idea what is going on. I agree. I am very happy with my 2 friends. But still. Apne ko bhi chahiye yaar. That pretty much sums up my whole thing.
Not to promote destructive behaviour. But getting drunk is so fun when you're safe. Sure, don't get drunk in bars alone. But when I got drunk I was in my home. It was honestly a great experience. My body felt boneless. I was giggling ridiculously.
I agree with you. Puppies are cute and everything. But dogs have way too much energy. They scare the fuck out of me. Oh what would I give to have a cat.
I thought Spotify only took your streaming history upto October so Red(TV) couldn't be a part of Wrapped.
I don't particularly hate Lover. It has some songs that I love. Paper Rings, London Boy, Cruel Summer was great. But other than that. It felt a little a pale in comparison to Reputation. Given that she followed it with Folklore. That didn't help.
Also, my relationship with award shows. It's pretty much - If my favourite artist wins, they are good, if they don't, who cares about the awards. They snubbed Weeknd last year and snubbed Halsey this year. IICHLIWP is so good. It's practically flawless. Fucking grammys.
How did I feel about Cruella? The movie or the character? Like I said I haven't seen the movie. The character. I don't know. Nothing if I am honest. I didn't remember seeing the film as a kid and I really didn't feel much when I grew up.
And handwritten stuff is always sophisticated. Even though I have historically bad handwriting. People tell me constantly. It's so stupid. I am taking down notes or some shit. Why will I care about my handwriting ffs. I was in ICSE naa, so they had the thing with, "It doesn't matter if your answers are good. If your presentation is bad, teacher won't read. Bla bla bla."
Got good marks anyway. So fuck you ma'am.
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