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fideidefenswhore · 4 months ago

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the tudors (2007-2010) / wolf hall (2009) / henry viii & the king's men (2020) / eustace chapuys to the emperor (june 1535) / the other boleyn girl (2008) / the downfall and execution of a tudor queen (2023) / eustace chapuys to the emperor (april 1536) / henry viii, stratford festival production (2019) / wolf hall (2009) / elizabeth i & her enemies (2017) / the mirror & the light (2020) / becoming elizabeth (2022) / the mirror & the light (2020) / the tudors (2007-2010) / the mirror & the light (2020) / the tudors (2007-2010)

#'she sees who is the master now' top ten cremuel freak moments #wolf hall crit #web weaving #(repeating the sources is kind of ...well. repetitive #but for the purpose of critique; necessary #altho you can argue this is just cromwell sort of...calcifying? callusing? over time. whatever the word is #but if he truly believes that elizabeth is going to 'live to thank him'......#again idk if this is intentional lol #mantel going 'not hardly' with that line from margaret pole #i don't think she meant them to be connected tbh #bcus that sounds more like plausible deniability for himself.#elizabeth won't remember (you were not yet five). but/so she'll live to thank him #granted. he has no reason to expect she would ever become queen #he dies before even the 1543 act so as far as he knew it wasn't possible 1536-#but you know. what she would have learned from parker and alesius... maybe even kat herself. despite cromwell's patronage #not hardly #i think it folds into his 'i will protect the gospel better'#it's not guilt or even really the suggestion of guilt. he is very explicitly not thinking about anne as he promotes her daughter's educatio #had elizabeth indeed lived to 'thank' him... hmm. delulu. but entertaining it....#i mean; it's almost impossible. she would've thought of him as mary thought of cranmer. if not even more intensely . because what was #done to catherine and mary was not equal to what happened to anne and by extension elizabeth #there were similarities but it was not on the same level

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