#grailposting

[lorethelorekeeper]

occult business

[pollackpatrol]

guy who thinks about the holy grail more than anyone else on earth back at it again

[wolvierinez]

not my knight ass looking for the grail 😭😂

[idoubtitsalex]

5 more minute mr. white

jesse we need to find the holy grail

[plasticsandwich]

you know you’re back in business when you try and take the first train over to uni and its late

[gen13ordinaryheroes]

I'm not making a grailposting tag because I'm not sick in the head like that

[laurajameskinney]

hi i talked to ur sibling and we figured things out, the situation’s been resolved, please leave me alone

jamie showed me your ask before i went through your blog.

[pollackpatrol]

@sharkjumpers izzy i sent you paragraphs to view at your leisure

hi izzy. do you ever think about the comic where someone mailed bruce wayne the holy grail. and he was descended from gawain but spelled weird or some shit

The what

[lorethelorekeeper]

[pollackpatrol]

basically i dislike batman: the chalice because it demonstrates a poor understanding of both the real life history of the grail (well, "real"... as we all know i am adamant in the belief that no such vessel ever existed, or if it did then it has not been preserved), and a poor understanding of arthurian canon... though since it alleges that the waynes are descended from sir gawain, the 2nd one is wayy more important.

it also posits possessing the grail as "cool", when... i don't think it is? like, in order to be worthy of it you have to heavily adhere to medieval codes of chivalry (which are of course incredibly christian), and doing that in the modern day is just lame. actually it's not just the medieval chivalric codes--you have to be christian to a truly ridiculous degree. these days that's not really seen as admirable, just stuffy at best

(though to be clear i'm not complaining. i like modern rules of politeness just fine.)

it's also just disrespectful tbh. like why is batman a grailkeeper when he's barely even christian*

(*i know he's nebulously jewish but afaik he himself has never been portrayed in canon as jewish despite participating in christian traditions such as christmas many many times. also, this was published before that)

[wolvierinez]

what is grail.

the holy grail. mine chalice..

[pollackpatrol]

oh i didn't say this but it wasn't a random guy. it was chuck dixon. also yeah it's confirmed thee holy grail

[ID: a comic panel of a computer screen that has the illusion of wings stretching out to either side of it so it looks like an angel. a voice from the computer reads, "Then it falls to you, young Bruce. You are of the house of GeVain. It is a blood duty you take on. Your line has borne this responsibility many times." End ID.]

this is from Batman: The Chalice. i'm pretty sure that Gevain is a corruption of Gawain, but i don't get why... "gawain" already sounds a lot like "wayne". BTW, i don't believe gawain is typically shown as achieving the grail in english... usually it's percival (originally) or galahad (later), though there is at least one german poem where it is gawain.

though quite frankly the waynes being guardians of the grail going back hundreds of years seems to imply that they're descendants of the fisher king, not an arthurian knight? i'd have to actually read Diu Crône (the german poem where gawan achieves the grail) to be sure, though

the basic plot of the comic is that the previous grailholders are being killed off or something, so they send it to bruce wayne for safekeeping. here's him + alfred looking at the engravings on this weird bowl and realizing what it is:

[ID: a comic panel of batman and Alfred Pennyworth analyzing something. Batman says, "The first name is Josephus. The next is Brons and then Alainsohn." Alfred says, "Oh my-- oh, my." End ID.]

(BTW, one of the things i like about this comic is that the grail isn't a goblet. a grail is just a serving vessel, but "really fancy cup" is generally how people picture the holy grail.)

once people, like ra's al-ghul, realize that bruce has the holy grail, they start attacking him for it. he spends most of the book trying to verify that it's the real deal IIRC, and once he does he gives it to clark to keep in the fortress of solitude.

i don't like this comic. i'm pretty sure it's not canon though

this is so fascinating i love learning information genuinely. thank you for sharing this with me jamie. Obsessed with this random writer just deciding to give batman what is presumably the holy grail for some reason and also possibly changing gawain to... gevain? why...... commit to the bit. be brave.

[wolvierinez]

[wolvierinez]

cant wait to find this grail!!!!!!!!! im going to fucking stab someone if we dont find this thing and soon.

[pollackpatrol]

i think it'd be interesting if JPV failed the grail test. internally "oh it would be rude to ask, i guess this is just how they do things here"

[edgy-grape]

Do it for the grail

All for the grail, bitches love the grail