#going a little sillyinsane after rewatching that vod

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still losing my mind a bit after that bacon stream and i need to get my thoughts out so 👍🏼 hi guys

i really like the way 3ht, especially bacon, went about talking to zam yesterday. and i dont really understand the people who were saying they were manipulating zam because.... they just weren't? obviously 3ht can be manipulative (mostly bacon and planet lol) but they were being really honest and straightforward with zam this time around.

they told zam what they think of the prison as people who have already been trapped in one before, and what they think the rest of the server will think about the prison. 3ht were talking to him and giving advice based off of their own perspectives and experiences. as viewers we know more about zam's pov than 3ht do, but that doesn't mean what they're telling him is manipulation, it's just bias.

they honestly just laid all their cards out on the table for him in that stream. the offer for him to join their team still stands! it always has, ever since they first offered to take him in after he betrayed team awesome. they weren't trying to manipulate or pressure him into joining them either, they simply reminded him the offer is always there. it's just the truth that if he joins 3ht, he'll be with a more open and honest team than if he remains with eclipse. they even told zam their goals on the server: stay alive, stay safe, and make the server fun. they don't hide things from each other, that's just the kind of team they are.

he was told he could join the anti-exploiters as well, but he'd have to work with mapicc. and he said no to that and it was fine! they didn't try to pressure him into joining anything mapicc is involved in.

zam's prior experiences from being on team awesome have shaped how he sees teams on lifesteal a LOT. neither TA nor eclipse were entirely honest with zam. and because of the way he left TA (by betraying and fighting them) he didn't even see leaving peacefully but still remaining friends with subz and vitalasy as being an option! he's in a similar situation with eclipse now as he was in before, but team awesome and eclipse are not the same. he doesn't have to part ways with both teams the same way. and he needed 3ht, a team who are extremely communicative with each other, to remind him he CAN leave on good terms.

they were firm with zam, but not forceful. he got to write signs and let his thoughts out, and in return 3ht offered ideas and solutions that he could accept if he wanted to. the only time they were forceful with zam was when bacon told zam he had until tuesday night (the next eclipse meeting) to make a decision. and honestly he needs that!!! a clear deadline to make a final decision, because otherwise he might never decide, and nothing will change for him.

ultimately 3ht can't force zam to do anything, and they aren't trying to. they aren't going to make a decision for him, and they aren't going to wait around forever trying to help him while he just goes in circles (hence the deadline to make a choice). but they can share their thoughts with zam and encourage him to do what him happy. no matter how much he cares for subz & vitalasy, he won't be happy if he stays with them and he knows it. that's why it's great he got to talk to people with such a healthy team dynamic, because they understand how teams should work and even if he doesn't join 3ht, they still reminded him it's not all black and white; he doesn't need to stay with eclipse and be unhappy, but he doesn't need to leave by betraying them either. he can amicably part ways, remain friends with them, and if he chooses to do so, he can join 3ht and finally experience what it's like to be on a team that's completely open and trusting :3