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[inacatastrophicmind]

Hey thanks for answering my ask! It was an honest question I promise!! No hate here just not up to date on the fandom and wanted to find someone who was more up to date with them. It was simple search and your tags were current and informed. I read that there was a lot of gaslighting with the writers and ex show runners about Destial and made it seem like y'all was crazy. As a person from a few fandoms who love a M/M romance I didn't know if there was something I was missing. My apologies if this question was out of left field. All respect to all communities I was not attempting to be offensive just curious. Thank you for your time in answering.

It's good to know that you were asking in good faith. Sorry if I come out as a bit harsh, but there are a lot of haters out there who love to send hate to make us Destiel shippers feel like shit just because we love Dean and Cas. And let me tell you that I have spent more time that I would have liked answering asks that basically shamed LGBTQIA+ people because some people have some really outdated concepts about romantic and sexual relationships. I can't help but being a bit defensive sometimes, so sorry if I sounded really mean. Sometimes it's hard to tell the tone of things from a text.

Anyway, as for the show runners and writers thing, well, there's a lot of lore for that. But long story short, Destiel had been hinted for years and tptb kept saying that there was nothing but in the end Destiel was canon. I know ther'es still some controversy because Cas said I love you and Dean did say it back in the Spanish dub, but well, I think Dean was in love with Cas all along, but he didn't get the chance to say it back because everything that went down in the end. Again, there's a lot of meta on that thing, but Destiel became canon in the end. But yeah, SPN has a crazy story, and it's hard to follow if you haven't been active in the fandom because something is always happening, even after the show ended 4 years ago.

Anyway, thank you for this ask and also I hope you have a nice day :')

[inacatastrophicmind]

Can you explain why so many fanfics of Destial have dean being molested, being a bottom, sexually humiliated?? Season 2 for me so I don't get it

I find it quite suspicious that someone who is only on season 2 of SPN has supposedly looked for Destiel fics.

I would have liked to give you the benefit of the doubt, because well, if you don’t know about something and you ask about stuff with a clear intention, even if the question is a little bit mean, is okay. But the thing about your question that really pisses me off and that makes me thing that you’re probably a Destiel hater using a Tumblr that only has 4 posts because I have the anon asks turned off, is that you think that being a bottom is something as bad and denigrating as being molested and being humiliated.

Some people like being a bottom. Some people like being a top. And some people like to be a switch, that is to say they sometimes like being a top and sometimes they like being a bottom. There is nothing wrong with being a bottom, a top or a switch person. People find pleasure in different ways, and as long as there is consent from everyone involved and as long as nobody hurts anybody, people can enjoy whatever the fuck they want.

I don’t know why some people think that being a bottom is something bad, especially when it comes to a m/m relationship, it’s like some people have the need to make someone feel bad because in your mind, some of the two guys has to take the role of the woman, which is as ridiculous as using chopsticks and saying this one is the fork and this one is the knife. Let people enjoy what they enjoy and stop associating being the bottom one in a relationship as something shameful and bad because for some of you, being the top one is all about being the super macho one while being the bottom one is the complete opposite, which is a very stupid and denigrating thought. Like I said before, some people enjoy being the bottom one and some people enjoy being the top one, and even some people like switching, and no one is the more masculine one for liking one thing over the other. Pleasure is different for everyone. So please, stop comparing someone being a bottom to being molested.

Now, to the other stuff. I’ve read a lot of Destiel fanfics, but obviously I haven’t read every single one, however, I have seen many Destiel fics while trying to find one to read, and people tag stuff meticulously, and I can tell you that there is a tiny percentage of non-con fics. The most I have seen is fics in which Dean is a prostitute and some characters have molested him, but that’s all. I don’t think I have stumbled upon a fic in which Cas molested or sexually humiliated Dean, just like I have never read a fic in which Dean molested or sexually humiliated Cas. Perhaps in the depths of the internet you can find stuff like that, but as someone who has been reading and writing Destiel fics for over a decade, I can tell you that I haven’t found stuff like that, and if there exists that stuff that you apparently say that exists, it is a tiny minority.

I really don’t know where you’re coming from, but it looks like you’re probably someone who hates Destiel and is trying to start something, so that’s my take. Please, dedicate your time to the stuff you love, you’ll have a better time, trust me. In case that I’m wrong and you’re asking with good intentions (which I doubt, but well, I’ll try to be as polite as I can), then my apologies. But after being in this fandom for so long, one tends to identify haters with a success rate of 99%