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guardiankarenterrier · 5 years ago
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"How did you even get in here?" "You have a window, don't you?" for the ask game
(Send me 2 sentences and I’ll continue them like they’re lines from a fanfic.)
short answers, what are short answers, how did so much juleka happen in this one
technically not spoilers i think? a LOT of gleeful headcanoning, because #givejulekaamiraculous
EDIT: now with an AO3 link! because i have historically been bad about losing track of fics i leave only on tumblr
“How did you even get in here?” Juleka asks, even though she’s fairly certain that she both knows the answer and doesn’t want to hear the answer.
Chat Noir shrugs, averting his eyes and rubbing the back of his neck.  His tail flicks, once, and falls still. “You have a window, don’t you?”
“It’s a porthole,” Juleka says flatly.  “Unlike almost every other window in Paris, it’s a little tricky to get through.”
“…do you want a Miraculous or not?” Chat Noir asks. His tail flicks again, in agitation this time, she’s pretty sure, and Juleka freezes up.
Because that isn’t why she thought he was here.
Sure, she’d seen the box in his hands, and she’d had some idea what it was- because she may not have seen one before, but she knows that Ladybug had been out calling for other heroes periodically.  She knows, because while Juleka would never say anything her brother is her closest friend aside from Rose and he’s her oldest friend as well. Juleka knows the way Viperion plays his harp the way she knows how to read wind and water off the bow of the Liberty, the way she knows to read the sky for incoming inclement weather and the way she knows when Rose needs her.
But Juleka had assumed, then, that Viperion was why Chat Noir was here.  Her and Luka’s rooms aren’t that thoroughly divided, privacy is something they’ve long since learned to negotiate between them and she’d assumed-
She’d assumed that Chat Noir had chosen the wrong window, that she’d have to tell him Luka wasn’t home.
When Juleka looks at Chat Noir again, timidly brushing the hair from her face to take a better look at his expression, he’s giving her a worried look but he doesn’t look like someone who’s made a mistake. 
“Juleka?” he says uncertainly.  Then he winces.  “Sorry, I’m not great at this.  Ladybug, uh, has a speech or something I think, but- Juleka Couffaine, would you give us the honour of wielding the Goat Miraculous?” After a moment he adds hastily, “I’ll need it back after the fight, but that has nothing to do with you, I promise!  It’s just, it’s just a rule.”
Juleka had suspected that already from her brother’s distinct lack of new jewellery, but she finds herself nodding in a daze. 
It takes her a bit to figure out how to put on the Goat Miraculous, and while Chat Noir tries to help he seems just as uncertain as she is, and anxious and restless besides. Juleka wonders about that before realising with a bit of a shock that Chat Noir must have left Ladybug to deliver her Miraculous. 
She starts trying to hurry faster.
“I’m Ziggy and I’ll be your kwami,” a tiny floating goat fairy informs her happily moments later, and frankly Juleka’s life has gotten weird enough ever since Hawkmoth started terrorising the city that she nods and accepts that. 
“It’s nice to meet you, Ziggy, but-” She glances at Chat Noir.  “I think we’re in a hurry.”
The transformation is more than Juleka’s ever dreamed off.  She can feel her energy and strength surge as her outfit changes, as her mask spreads across her face and outward-facing horns sprout from her head, curling defensively back.
Chat Noir is more than willing to call advice to her as they sprint and leap to the battle, and she catches a proud twitch to his ears more than once when she quickly starts to catch the trick to their superhuman abilities.  Juleka’s always been a roughly equal fan of Chat Noir and Ladybug both but she thinks it might be tipping in Chat’s favour now. 
And when they do reach the battle, she has solid proof it was no mistake that Chat Noir came to fetch her. 
Because Viperion is already there, and he lights up to see them both, and when he laughs Ladybug whirls to see why and a proud smile cuts across her face as well. 
Then Juleka sees her brother and Ladybug forced to leap apart as a blue bolt sears between them, and although Juleka can’t know what it does she’s already lowered her head to charge into the battle herself, sensing more than seeing Chat Noir go racing ahead of her. 
Juleka had never expected to be worthy of a Miraculous.  She’s been happy for her brother, but not that envious when she knows how much Luka deserves a chance to be the hero she knows he always has been.
But Juleka herself is- quiet, and timid, in a way that Luka generally isn’t.  He’s very laid back, yes, but he’s also more than willing to put himself in danger for the sake of others. Although some of Juleka’s friends know that she isn’t truly timid, only shy, she had never thought that anyone who hadn’t gotten to know her better in some way (through school, or Kitty Section, or at least being someone she was comfortable talking to) would see hero potential in her. 
The fight goes amazingly well with all of them there- because Chat Noir and Ladybug are already pros at fighting like a well-oiled machine, and whether or not Viperion can tell who Arapawa is she knows his style well enough to fight alongside him as though they’ve been doing so forever.  In a way they have, just considerably less literally than this.
At the end of their battle, when their four-way chorus of fist bumps and cries of “Pound it!” only barely covers the beeping of their Miraculous, she catches a thoughtful look from Viperion that makes her think maybe she isn’t the only one who’d recognise her own family anywhere. 
It is kind of hilarious when Chat Noir takes off with her and Ladybug takes off with Viperion and their paths keep veering distressingly close to each other, forcing the two more experienced heroes to constantly adjust their routes. 
In the end, Juleka catches the barest glimpse of Ladybug and Viperion dropping into the wheelhouse while she and Chat Noir scramble back through her window. Her lips twitch with a hastily suppressed style as she wonders if Luka noticed them, as well.  Frankly, it’s a good thing their mother isn’t home, because she probably would have noticed four heroes clambering onto her boat.  Probably.
Juleka gives her Miraculous back to Chat Noir without protest.  The heroes have come back for Luka more than once, after all.  Even if they don’t come back for her again, this day has definitely been enough to fulfil all her idle daydreams of being a hero herself.
And it’s not long at all after Chat Noir leaves before she hears quiet guitar notes from Luka’s room. 
Juleka is content to stay in her own space, idly sketching in a notebook as she tries to recall her superhero outfit from memory, so it’s Luka who pushes their curtain aside eventually. 
He doesn’t say anything right away, opting instead to settle on the beanbag she keeps for Rose and play for a little longer.  His song wavers more than usual, notes going from a sense of pride and determination, to creeping fear, to a fiercer bout of pride interwoven with relief and happiness.
“New hero,” Luka says finally, the first of them to break the silence. 
Juleka lifts her head and blows her hair out her face, tucking it behind her ear and willing it to stay there for a bit this time.  “So I’ve heard.  Arapawa, right?”
Luka plucks out a few more chords, reiterating the pride and joy from his earlier playing.  “Yep, Arapawa.  She was amazing- and she worked really well with Viperion.  Almost like she already knew how to collaborate with him.“ 
Juleka’s lips curve in a tiny smile.  "Maybe she did.”
Her brother sets his guitar down gently and gives her the kind of grin usually reserved for late night jam sessions when neither of them can sleep. “Well, I think she might be my new favourite hero.  How about you, Jule?”
Lips twitching as she considers his expression, Juleka deadpans, “Nope, my favourite is actually Chat Noir,” and can’t repress a tiny snicker at the mock-hurt look Luka gives her.
Snickering, Juleka assures him, “But Viperion is cooler.”
“And I bet he looks forward to working with Arapawa again,” Luka tells her, his guitar already back in his hands as his fingers dance over a few more proud notes.  “Because they make a great team.”
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marcus-vice · 4 years ago
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Ok guys hear are some of the other Miraculous users,
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Mylène as the new Multimouse
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Minotaurox (Most likely Ivan) wielder of the Ox miraculous
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Tigresse Pourpre (most likely Juleka) wielder of the Tiger Miraculous
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Dog miraculous is most likely Saberna.
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Everyone is thinking Nathaniel might be the wielder of the rooster miraculous.
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Caprikid (Goat Miraculous wielder) is actually the only one I don’t know about.
Fyi, I got this all off the miraculous wiki
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luckygirl102 · 3 years ago
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Why Lukloé won't happen, but Lukagami will
See the article with all pictures in: https://www.deviantart.com/beckygwen102/journal/Why-Lukloe-won-t-happen-but-Lukagami-will-907480581
          In the Audiovisual and Broadcasting college, I learned that every series has indications about what will happen in the end. Although there are some changes in the production course, the story’s line of reasoning remains the same. In Miraculous Ladybug, this is no different, and several signs even indicate who the characters will stay with at the end of the story.
          Some of these signs indicate that Luka and Kagami are going to be a couple. However, some fans insist that Luka should stay with either Chloe or Zoe, even if their claims are based more on personal opinions than on facts. In this post, I’ll show you why Luka will stay with Kagami, not with Chloe or Zoe.
1-    Why Luka will stay with Kagami
Visual signs
          Characters are very well planned before their debuts. Their appearances and personalities are described in the series bible, so the writers know how to write the stories. In Miraculous Ladybug, they took great care to make Marinette and Adrien wear clothes of opposite colors. Then, when the negative filter is applied, Adrien’s colors are the same as Marinette’s regular version and vice versa. And the same goes for Luka and Kagami.
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Credits to Miraculous Wikia Forum.
          Notice that Luka and Marinette wear white shirts, while Adrien and Kagami wear black shirts. At the same time, Luka and Marinette wear props on their ears (Luka wears earplugs and Marinette wears earrings), while Adrien and Kagami wear rings. Considering the plot, we realized that the series intention is to show that Luka and Kagami seemed to be the pairs of Marinette and Adrien. Still, a couple is formed by two people who complete themselves, not necessarily equal. It has to do with the series philosophical basis, based on Chinese philosophy and its elements, such as yin-yang. No wonder Ladybug and Cat Noir represent it in the Miracle box. And speaking about it, it is one more sign that both Adrien and Marinette and Luka and Kagami will be together.
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Credits to Chicoriii’s text.
The Miracle Box
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          The Miracle box is divided into three groups related to Chinese philosophy:
The yin-yang
The five elements of nature
The twelve signs of the Chinese zodiac
          Chinese philosophy states that there must always be a balance between the forces of nature (the perfect balance is represented by yin-yang). Master Fu even explained it in “Robustus.” Then, the miraculouses of each group are ordered in the box in a way that
          Let’s start with the Chinese zodiac miraculouses. We have mouse, ox, tiger, rabbit, dragon, snake, horse, goat, monkey, rooster, dog, and pig. And we know which characters are their wielders: Mylene, Ivan, Juleka, Alix, Kagami, Luka, Max, Nathaniel, Kim, Marc, Sabrina, and Rose. From there, we can realize that we have an even number of miraculouses/wielders, so to maintain balance, they form duos or couples. To focus on couples later, let’s start with the duos, that is, characters within this group who don’t make a couple but have one thing in common.
          The first duo is Kim (monkey) and Sabrina (dog): Kim was in love with Chloe but is now Ondine’s boyfriend; Sabrina idolizes Chloe and has a brief romance with an American boy in “Miraculous New York.” Although Kim and Sabrina are not a couple, they form a duo: they are two Chinese zodiac miraculous wielders who have a non-miraculous wielder love interest. The second duo is Max (horse) and Alix (rabbit). Thomas Astruc has already confirmed that Max is asexual and that Alix is aromantic. Therefore, we have one more duo: Chinese zodiac miraculous wielders without a love development in the series.
          There are leftover Mylene (mouse), Ivan (ox), Juleka (tiger), Kagami (dragon), Luka (snake), Nathaniel (goat), Marc (rooster), and Rose (pig). Among this group, we have some confirmed couples: Mylene/Ivan, Juleka/Rose, and Marc/Nathaniel. Who are the only ones left? Luka and Kagami.
          In addition, the signs of the Chinese zodiac are divided into the yin and yang polarities. Thomas Astruc likes to work with this concept, and we notice it in some couples. Ladybug and Cat Noir are the very representation of yin-yang. Mylene has the mouse miraculous, of yang polarity, and Ivan has the ox miraculous, of yin polarity. The same goes for Juleka (tiger, yang) and Rose (pig, yin). Who else has a miraculous with a yin sign and a yang sign? Luka (snake, yin) and Kagami (dragon, yang). Moreover, according to Chinese philosophy, the most promising union is between a snake man and a dragon woman. It is no coincidence that Ladybug and Cat Noir used the dragon and the snake miraculous for season three’s final battle (“Miracle Queen”). Who is the man who uses the snake miraculous? Luka. Who is the woman who uses the dragon miraculous? Kagami.
Other signs
          The characters’ names in a story are never chosen by chance. There’s always a reference or meaning behind it. Marinette, for example, is the diminutive of Marie, the French name of the Virgin Mary, Our Lady. The name of the insect ladybug was created as a reference to her. Therefore, the ladybug-themed heroine is named after Our Lady. Besides being a male form of Gabrielle (Chanel’s first name, then a good one for a stylist), Gabriel is an angel name. The contradiction between Gabriel being an angel name and the character being extremely evil is reflected in Gabriel Agreste himself, who pretends to be correct for others but secretly is the greatest villain in Paris. We can also note this issue of the names in Lukagami.
          The name Luka means “light” in Latin, while Kagami means “mirror” in Japanese.  A mirror can only work with light. The last syllable of the name Luka is the first of the name Kagami. You don’t have to take anything out of their names to form the couple’s name. It indicates that Luka and Kagami fit perfectly into each other. In addition, one of Luka’s akumatized forms is named Truth, and one of Kagami’s is called Lies, indicating how they complete each other.
          In addition, there are some other details, which work with similarities and complementation between the two. Both Luka and Kagami were raised by their mothers (Anarka is a single mother, and I believe Tomoe is a widow). Both mothers are inserted in their children’s themes (Anarka is a rocker like Luka, Tomoe is a fencer like Kagami). Both mothers were akumatized with vehicles (Anarka was akumatized with her boat in “Captain Hardrock,” Tomoe was akumatized with her car in “Ikari Gozen”). Luka is poor and was raised free, while Kagami is rich and was raised stuck. That complementation - which is also observed in Marinette (poor, free) and Adrien (rich, stuck) - is one of the signs that Luka and Kagami need from each other.
          Kagami has already mentioned in “Riposte” and “Desperada” that she - and her family - don’t believe in second chances. Luka’s power as Viperion is called “Second Chance.” Despite being cheated on in “Truth” (in which he says he already knows that Marinette loves Adrien) and having discovered in “Wishmaker” that Marinette and Adrien are destined, Luka still loves Marinette and even says so in “Ephemeral.” Kagami says in “Frozer” that the biggest mistake a fencer can make isn’t choosing the wrong technique; it’s choosing the wrong target. Although in that context, she was indicating to Adrien that he should start focusing on her instead of the girl he liked, we realized with the advancement of the story that it is Luka who needs to “change targets.” By nurturing that sickly love for Marinette, Luka only harms himself, for he condemns himself to love a woman who will never love him (as Marinette herself said in “Crocoduel”). Then, Luka and Kagami can help each other. Luka can teach Kagami that second chances do exist (and she must believe after what happened to her feelings in “Lies”) and may even face Tomoe to save Kagami from that trapped life (as Marinette herself faced Gabriel in “Miraculous New York”). Kagami can teach Luka to give himself more value and change his target to someone who wants him. From their experience when Marinette and Adrien cheated on them, it is clear that Luka and Kagami would not cheat on each other. On the contrary, they would be a couple who help each other and complement each other, such as Adrien/Cat Noir and Marinette/Ladybug.
          Another point that unites Luka and Kagami is their ties with arts. Luka has a strong bond to music, as shown in episodes like “Captain Hardrock,” “Frozer,” “Silencer,” “Desperada,” “Truth,” and “Wishmaker.” He expresses himself poetically using references to music, as seen in “Silencer” and “Wishmaker.” Kagami has a similar bond to drawing, shown in “Lies.” Just as Luka finds the melody “sincere” in “Silencer,” Kagami sees sincerity in the art of drawing in “Lies.” When she helps Marinette find a way to declare her feelings to Adrien in “Glaciator 2,” she also expresses herself poetically while describing the seduction from what she learned in a manga (a literary genre that unites text and drawing). Music, drawing, and literature are art forms, and Luka and Kagami know the essenceof these genres.
          Therefore, those who dismiss Lukagami as something “cliché” just because the couple is formed by the protagonists’ ex-boyfriend and girlfriend are taking a very shallow view of the matter. Both characters were carefully created and developed to complete each other and stay together. Seeing only the interaction between the characters, Nino and Alya could also be considered a “cliché” couple, as there are a lot of stories including a couple formed by the protagonists’ best friends (e.g., High School Musical). Likewise, many works show a mean character being redeemed after starting a relationship with a good one (e.g., Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure and Inuyasha). Therefore, Lukloe could also be considered a “cliché.” Thomas Astruc confirmed that Luka will not stay with Chloe, and the following reasons explain why.
2-    Why Luka won’t stay with Chloe or Zoe
          Although Chloe and Luka are opposite (Chloe representing evil and Luka representing good), their opposition is not the kind that would form a couple in Miraculous Ladybug’s context and philosophy. To better understand why, one must return to the Miracle box, explaining why he can’t stay with her, nor with Zoe.
The Miracle Box
          As explained earlier, the miraculouses are divided into three groups in the box: the yin-yang, the five elements of nature, and the Chinese zodiac signs. In addition, we have seen that the Chinese zodiac miraculouses are in even numbers, and their wielders form duos or couples to maintain the balance defended in Chinese philosophy. But to understand the part of Chloe and Zoe, it is necessary to explain the other box’s groups.
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          The box’s middle part has five miraculouses: fox, bee, turtle, peacock, and butterfly. They represent the five elements of nature: fire, wood, earth, water, and metal. Notice that five is an odd number, different from the even number of Chinese zodiac signs. Within the element miraculous wielders, we have a couple - Alya (fox) and Nino (turtle) - and a duo: Gabriel (butterfly) and Nathalie (peacock), the villains. At the story’s beginning, Gabriel and Emilie (peacock) also formed a couple of miraculous wielders within the group, maintaining balance.
          Then we realize there’s no way for Luka to be with Zoe or Chloe. Their miraculouses are of different groups (Luka’s is of the zodiac and Zoe’s and Chloe’s is of the elements). Miraculous wielders stay with someone of the same group (e.g., Marinette/Adrien (yin-yang), Alya/Nino (elements), and Mylene/Ivan (zodiac)). Or, at least, with someone without miraculous, with another wielder also dating someone without miraculous to balance (Kim and Sabrina). A wielder of a miraculous type cannot date a wielder of a different kind because it would not maintain the balance.
          The bee miraculous is left alone in its group because the number is odd. But to understand this part, one must first understand what happens to Chloe and Zoe.
Addendum (03/03/2022): The logic of the Miracle box applies to the official wielders (the temporary ones are excluded) who acquired their powers around the time of Marinette and Adrien (older wielders are excluded, such as those shown in the Miraculous spellbook, and Master Fu), as the series is focused on them. Remembering that not even 100 years have passed from the time when Gabriel and Emilie became wielders to when Adrien received his miraculous. Marinette, for example, was a temporary wielder of the mouse miraculous in “Kwamibuster” and is not Ivan’s girlfriend. Felix uses the dog miraculous in “Strike Back,” but Sabrina is the official wielder (and she is the one who forms the duo with Kim, as explained earlier). The temporary uses of the dragon and snake miraculouses by Marinette and Adrien were used in the text to demonstrate the Chinese philosophical view about the union between a dragon woman and a snake man.
2.1 Why Luka won't stay with Chloe
Chloe is evil (even if her fans deny it)
          Although her fans won’t admit it, Chloe is a character created to be evil. From the beginning of the story, she loves bullying her colleagues just for the sheer pleasure of watching them suffer. One example is in “Reflekta,” where Chloe orders Sabrina to trap Juleka in the bathroom so she cannot take the class photo. It leads Juleka to be akumatized. At no point did Chloe apologize to Juleka or any other colleague. The only exception was in “Zombizou,” where Chloe got right with Miss Bustier but did so only to consolidate her prestige with the teacher. Chloe would stop her deeds if she were indeed sorry. However, Chloe sees no reason to get right with her classmates (which she deems inferior), while as the teacher is an authority, it was in her interest to have a good image with her.
          We see in “Reflekdoll” and “Crocoduel” that Luka and Juleka are very attached, and we see in “Silencer” and “Truth” that Luka does not endure injustices and people who do evil to others. Would Luka fall in love with someone who does evil for pleasure and doesn’t regret her acts as Chloe? Not.  Especially since Chloe and Juleka are enemies, Luka would never like someone who does evil to his sister.
          Many claims that Luka could “change” Chloe to the good side. Well, for that to happen, Chloe must be open to change. Some believe that her experience as Queen Bee “proves” that she can be good. But in fact, Chloe just wanted to be Queen Bee to have as much fame as Ladybug and Cat Noir. Her performances as a heroine were not very notable, except in “Malediktator” and “Miraculer,” which involved people of her interests (her father and Sabrina). Chloe did not understand that when Ladybug did not choose her to help, it was not because Ladybug did not like her, but because that mission did not need the power to paralyze. She doesn’t understand that because she doesn’t seek fighting villains to help others but rather opportunities to show off.
          Chloe herself stated in “Heart Hunter” that she doesn’t love anyone. And that means she only sees people thinking about what each one can offer her. Her parents are her livelihood (since she doesn’t work yet), Sabrina is her minion (made clear in “Sole Crusher”), and Adrien is a trophy: the “best” girl (as she thinks about herself) “must have” the most handsome, popular, and desired boy from Paris. In sum, Chloe sees Adrien much like Gaston sees Belle in Beauty and the Beast.
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Any resemblance is no mere coincidence.
          In “Miracle Queen,” Chloe despises Luka for wearing simple clothes. So, even if she finds him “cute” (which caused many to start to ship them instantly), she does not see him as a love interest because he is poor and would not offer her anything that would interest her. In “Sole Crusher,” Chloe orders Zoe to crush those inside the boat - including Luka - because, in her view, they are “losers.” Therefore, both Luka would not be interested in Chloe, and Chloe has no interest in Luka.
          About one of Gloob’s trailers had insinuated that Lukloe could happen (for she had called him “cute”), we need to remember an important detail: not all Gloob says is official. Sometimes the channel tries to mislead the fans, like when the narrator implied that Extraterrestrials would abduct Ladybug and Cat Noir in “Truth,” and when he suggested that Adrien would be jealous of Luka and Marinette in “Wishmaker.”
          Before someone says that Thomas Astruc has changed things before - like the age difference between Luka and Juleka - and could change the couples too, I need to explain something. Age differences are minimal details, so the production course indeed could change them. However, couples are a significant part of this story - and they follow a logic - so they are not subject to enormous changes.
Chloe will stay by herself
          Thomas Astruc has already said that Chloe will not be with anyone at the end of the series. And that’s the most significant proof that she won’t date Adrien or Luka or anyone. I realize that many of her fans wage real wars with Astruc, accusing him of “ruining the character’s development.” They can’t recognize that Chloe represents people who have the opportunity to change, but because they are selfish, they only think of themselves. She’s a villain, and in children’s cartoons, villains are punished. Astruc creates the story and the characters, and we have seen that his work follows logic. If Chloe’s fans don’t like how the character is going, stop watching the cartoon. For myself, when I saw that The Vampire Diaries and Supernatural were taking a way I didn’t like, I just stopped watching. I didn’t make this embarrassing role of arguing with the producers and creators.
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It’s false that Thomas Astruc said that Chloé “is his favorite character” and that she “will stay with Luka.” If he “said” it, he was probably being ironic, and people didn’t understand.
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For those who do not speak Spanish, there is the statement in English.
2.2 Why Luka won’t stay with Zoe
          Many began to shipp Luka and Zoe because of the ice cream Luka takes in “Miracle Queen” and “Truth.” The ice cream has a blue scoop (Zoe’s hat color) and a pink scoop (her hair bangs’ color). However, we have seen from the logic of the Miracle box that Luka and Zoe cannot be together. Besides, André’s ice cream doesn’t always really have the colors of the people portrayed.
          Indeed, in “Glaciator,” Marinette and Adrien’s ice creams refer to the colors of Adrien and Ladybug, respectively. However, in “Heart Hunter” and “Lies,” André represents Adrien and Kagami with peppermint and orange ice cream. We know from “Glaciator” that peppermint refers to Adrien’s green eyes, but Kagami has nothing that the orange color could represent. André usually describes Marinette with a blackberry ice cream (referencing her hair), but in both “Truth” and “Wishmaker,” he does not give her a blackberry ice cream. In the latter, she is represented with strawberry and cherry ice cream, and Luka with pistachio and pecan (while Luka has nothing green). The blue-pink ice cream means Lukanette, not Luka’s fate (remembering that Marinette’s pants are pink).
          Many also believed from the “Crocoduel” trailers that Luka would approach Zoe. However, throughout the episode, they barely interacted. Zoe has demonstrated that he sees Luka as a good friend, and he probably sees her the same way. It is certain that in “Desperada,” Kagami got on Luka’s boat as uninvited (because she was accompanying Adrien). Still, in “Truth” and “Lies,” we see that she was invited to watch the Kitty Section show on the boat. Even if it was only to see Adrien, if her presence was allowed, Luka considers her part of the group of friends. It’s impressive how the central “point” anti-Lukagami shippers have is that “Luka and Kagami don’t interact.” At the same time, they shipp Luka with Chloe (who despises him and doesn’t even know his name) or with Zoe (with whom he also has minimal interaction). Kagami at least knows Luka’s name, besides having all those elements already mentioned at the beginning of the text.
Zoe's fate
          In addition to shipp Luka with Zoe or with Chloe (based, as I proved, on opinions and misinterpretations, not on facts), the anti-Lukagami ones usually shipp Kagami with Felix. Perhaps this is one of the most random ships possible, as nothing links Kagami to Felix. Some claim that Kagami would be “rewarded” with another “Adrien” (because Felix and Adrien are identical), but in “Mr. Pigeon 72,” she has already shown that she wants nothing more to do with Adrien.
          Felix and Kagami were not even seen together before “Gabriel Agreste.” In “Felix,” Kagami is seen briefly in a video call, and it has not been shown whether she recorded any video supporting Adrien. Felix stood out in the episode for making a video posing as Adrien and mistreating his friends. From Nathalie’s speech, we realized that it was Lila who sent Felix’s video to Gabriel. Lila, like Kagami, was only seen on a board in the video call, having not made any video in support of Adrien. Soon, if Lila received Felix’s video, it is likely that Kagami also did, and upon learning of everything that happened, she was also angry with Felix. That’s why Kagami had an angry looking at Felix in “Gabriel Agreste.”
          If “interaction” is the reason why Lukagami has to be dismissed, then Lukloe, Lukzoe, and Feligami should also be. But if they want to get Felix a girlfriend so bad, there’s an indication that maybe Zoe is the perfect one for him.
          In their debuts, Felix and Zoe were considered “copies” of Adrien and Chloe, respectively. Felix passed himself off as Adrien in “Felix,” and Zoe’s akumatized form is identical to Chloe in “Sole Crusher.” I heard there is a possibility that Felix is not exactly evil but has to use unethical tactics to get his family’s rings. If so, he has something in common with Zoe, who had to pretend to be mean in “Sole Crusher” and “Gabriel Agreste” to please her family and fulfill a mission to help Marinette. Joining Zoe and Felix would not destroy the balance shown in the Miracle box, for her jewel is unmatched, and she would form a couple with someone who has no miraculous. Then, she would not “take” any miraculous from its group to create a couple with her. Of course, Zoe and Felix have not interacted so far, but the series is not over yet. There’s still plenty of time for them to interact. And better yet, there’s still plenty of time for Luka and Kagami to interact.
          Of course, it could have some changes. It could happen, for instance, that Luka and Kagami finish the series on their own, forming a duo of Chinese zodiac miraculous wielders who dated the yin-yang protagonists and were left alone. But I think that ending would be too sad for both of them. Luka and Kagami have shown that they have a lot of love to give, and they deserve a companion to dedicate that love to.
3-    Conclusion
          Miraculous Ladybug’s own audiovisual elements indicate that Luka will stay with Kagami. Cartoons and series are very well planned and their progress does not occur at random. Even if Chloe’s fans fight with Thomas Astruc, it’s his work, and it’s up to him how it ends. The fanfics are there to bring an “escapism” to fans who wanted things to be done differently. In them, fans can shape Miraculous Ladybug’s universe at will, but in the original series, Luka and Kagami will form one of the story’s most charming couples, along with Marinette/Ladybug and Adrien/Cat Noir.
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As Master Fu would say, “they were meant for each other.” Art by CeewewFrost12.
Sources:
“Why Lukagami should happen and probably will” by Chicoriii;
“Luka y Kagami terminarán juntos y estos detalles lo confirman” by Nathaniel FD;
The knowledge that I acquired myself in college.
Text originally written on November 24th, 2021. Updated on March 3rd, 2022.
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thebigpapilio · 3 years ago
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I saw your submission for the “Kwami Wheel” AU over at Justanotherpersonsuniverse.
I would like to hear more about it please.
Ooh, I’m so glad you asked!
Before that, apologies to @justanotherpersonsuniverse​ for pushing on what I presume are your rules. I should have done my research... I’m sorry for it all.
Other than Ladybug!Nath/Kid Crimson (as he ages, he goes simply by Crimson; there’s probably a yo mama joke in the future that goes something like Yo mama so old she knew Kid Crimson) & Black Cat!Kagami/Kuro Neko, here are the other wielders.
Moth!Marc Anciel/Indigo: Like Kid Crimson and Kuro Neko, he’s given his Miraculous at the beginning; his Miraculous and Duusu’s (which we’ll get to) are safe in Fu’s hands. He doesn’t have comphet like KC & KN so much as he has severe anxiety... in any case, he ends up with Nath.
Fox!Marinette Dupain-Cheng/Foxy Lady: TBH, the name needs work, but I don’t wanna go with Húlí, either... she’s shipped with Kagami, BTW.
Turtle!Max Kante/Plastron: I’m pretty proud of this name... I know I usually HC Alix as aro-ace, but this time I ship Alix, Max and...
Bee!Kim Le Chien/Con Ong: There is a Miracle Queen equivalent, but nobody betrays KC. He also doesn’t reveal his identity to anybody, having no reason to impress Audrey Bourgeois.
Luka Couffaine/Phantom P: Can you tell I like the concept of Gentleman Rogue!Luka? For a while, the heroes only stick around for akumas and any important events of the like, but it’s Phantom P who inspires them to address more world issues than that of magical problems. Oh, and I ship him with...
Horse!Chloe Bourgeois/Trailblazer: She gets a genuine redemption arc in this AU. It’s not an easy path, obviously, but she gets there. I’m considering that she’s already in the middle of a redemption arc, but the villain attacks and the reappearance of her mother threaten relapses.
Rabbit!Sabrina Raincomprix/Chronométreur: My favorite Rabbit alias for such a sweet girl (it literally means Timehopper)... rarepair time: Alyabrina is the ship for this fic!
Rooster!Alya Cesaire/Cocorica: She still runs the Ladyblog equivalent (IDK the name RN... give me some pitches if y’all want). Cocorica is a probably-nongrammatical form of Cocorico, the French word for cock-a-doodle-doo.
Pig!Alix/Truix: Truie is French for sow. Again, she’s shipped with Kim and Max... though now I’m wondering if I should ship her with Alya & Sabrina instead...
Dragon!Ivan Bruel/Wyvern: One of my favorite Dragon aliases... I think there ought to be some exploration of his career paths beyond Kitty Section.
Dog!Mylene Haprele/Dachshund: Here be Myvan... 
Snake!Rose Lavillant/Pythonelle: Timeline trauma time~!
Monkey!Juleka Couffaine/Hurleuse: Hurleuse means Howler in French, apparently. Julerose all the way!
Mouse!Nino Lahiffe/Jerboa: Not too much to say about most of the rest other than their ships. Adrinino here!
Ox!Adrien Agreste/Stampede: Most of what I have to say about him revolves around his home-life. Emilie is alive, but her and Gabriel’s relationship is strained regardless. He’s still a douchebag, and a manipulator at that. Adrien has a lot more freedom bc of Emilie canceling out some of Gabriel’s commands. That said, it was at Gabriel’s insistence that Adrien be homeschooled, and... well, enough about that for now.
Importantly, Gabriel isn’t Hawkmoth, nor does Nathalie work for him (nor is she Mayura). Instead...
Tiger!Tomoe Tsurugi/Tiger Queen: Tomoe is not a good parent. There are some sympathetic moments, as is par for the course, but... 
Goat!Nathalie Sancoeur/She-Goat: Like with Marinette, I think the name needs work. I was trying to parody She-Ra and She-Hulk, TBH. Oh, and Nathalie works for Tomoe in this AU.
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If you have any questions, feel free to ask! If anyone wants to write or draw anything, plz let me know first!
Valete,
TheBigPapilio
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jinx-jade · 4 years ago
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Secret Dreams Chapter 10: A court meeting.
Marinette, Penny, and Jagged entered her hotel room, quickly closing and locking everything that could let them be seen from the outside world.
“Are you gonna tell us how you know Bruce’s kid?” Jagged questions as they finished locking up.
“But that would ruin all my fun!” Marinette wines as she handed Kaalki’s miraculous to Penny and Roarr’s miraculous to Jagged.
“I think Plagg has been rubbing off on you too much,” Penny says with amusement, causing Marinette to huff in protest, quickly opening a portal and going through it. Penny did the same thing for herself and Jagged. Not even bothering to transform since she didn’t need to do so, due to the fact she was already an adult.
Penny’s portal had brought Jagged and herself to a large conference room. After a few moments, a portal appeared letting Tomoe, Kagami, and Adrien enter the room. Once that portal shut, a new one opened, Anarka, Alix, Juleka, and Luka stepped through it. The third portal opened with Tom, Sabine, and Chloe stepping out. A fourth portal opened letting Kim, Ondine, Nathaniel, and Marc through. The final portal opened with Max and Marinette exiting it.
All those who exited a portal are members of the 魔盾 Co. (Mó dùn Co.). Some had been members longer than others, although none of the court members kept their miraculi on them anymore. They had come to a unanimous decision that the Grand Guardian, Marinette, was to hold onto all the miraculi. The only reason a court member would hold their miraculi was if they had an important meeting, an emergency, or if their kwami wished to visit. Seeing that each court member had been given their respective miraculous as they were sent through a portal, they could only assume this meeting was very important. 
Each court member took their seats as they started the meet.
“The bat family broke through quite a few of our firewalls,” Marinette informs them.
“Max, Start to rebuild them and upgrade them if possible. Your second chance should help you outrun them if they decide to double back.” Max gives a sharp nod.
“Alix, give Max a hand. Your protection shields should be a big help to Max’s programming.” Alix gave a mock salute as she started manipulating her raw energy into a protection algorithm.
“What do you mean the bat family broke through our firewall!” Kim exclaims.
“About that,” Marinette starts. “I may have gotten caught up in a rogue attack and taken down most of the goons, catching the bat-fam’s attention in the process,” Marinette says as she spins the black cat miraculous on her hand.
Tom let out a resigned sigh, “Of course you did,” he states under his breath.
Sabine simply chuckling in amusement, “Oh, I was already aware of your involvement in the attack. Although I’m more interested in your meeting with the Waynes today.” Sabine lazily informs them with a smirk.
“Stupid time travel mother, always knowing everything.” Marinette huffs under her breath.
“What’s this about the Wayne’s? Oh, and don’t even try to lie. Luka and I will be able to tell based on how your emotions move.” Chloe smirks, causing Marinette to groan.
“You’re all trying to ruin my fun!” Marinette hisses back. Her hiss didn’t have any bite, so the others joined in on the teasing.
“The little rocker knows Wayne’s youngest. They seemed rather chummy too.” Jagged was so ‘kind’ to inform them. The meeting got off-topic as they asked question after question.
Tomoe was the one to get the meeting back on track.“How much information were they able to retrieve?” The dragon wielder inquired.
Marinette cleared her throat as she let a wide grin make its way onto her features. “They didn’t get anything that hadn’t been approved by myself. I also may have got onto a call with them. So..” she trailed off.
“You're joking.” Nathaniel states as a grin of his own appeared. His k-9s are showing just a little bit. Seeming a little too sharp to be normal.
“Nope! I got onto a call with them, so the amount of knowledge they got was controlled by myself,” Marinette replied.
“Nice,” the fox wielder shot back in appreciation.
“And that information was?” Juleka asked with a raised brow
“Let our chaotic cats have their fun. After all, Nathaniel usually only plays with his little mouse.” Kim states teasingly, causing Marc to go red at the implication.
“Exactly, Mari will get there eventually. No need to bee so impatient Queenie.” The goat wielder cackles at his puns. The rest of the court is a mix between chuckle, groans, and glares.
“Adrien, what have we said about the puns!” Chloe groans as she throws her hands into the air.
Not even missing a beat, Adrien replies, “That there not punny.”
“As much fun this chaos is, we should get back on topic,” Anarka interjects.
“Says the chaos monkey herself.” Marinette cheers before a serious look fell in place.
“The information I gave them was from my official 魔盾 Co. (Mó dùn Co.) court file. Marinette Dupain-Cheng. Codename شبح (Shabh). Currently staying in Gotham, New Jersey, America. Court member of eight years. Court rank classified. Runs the company MDC, a front for 魔盾 Co. (Mó dùn Co.). The general stuff.” she informs them.
“They will most likely visit my civilian identity at some point. I also want some of you in Gotham. The amount of curses, hexes, and charms littered around the place is insane. On that note, how do all of you feel about going to a charity gala tomorrow night?” Marinette questions.
The meet continued as normal after they decided that anyone who wouldn’t be seen as out of place will attend the gala with Jagged, Penny, and Marinette. All the court members had a general feeling that Marinette was planning something but couldn’t figure out what it was. 
They looked to Sabine only to see that she wasn’t really worried about anything. The calmness of the rabbit wielder helped soothe their nerves. 
It wasn’t until everyone had gone home that they all seemed to collectively remember that Sabine always lets Marinette have her chaotic fun. 
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In case you’re confused:
Marinette is the black cat wielder
Alix is the turtle wielder
Juleka is the bee wielder
Chloe is the butterfly wielder
Nathaniel is the fox wielder
Marc is the mouse wielder
Kagami is the Ox wielder
Luka is the peacock wielder
Adrien is the goat wielder
Kim is the rooster wielder
Ondine is the pig wielder
Max is the snake wielder
Tom is the dog wielder
Sabine is the rabbit wielder
Jagged is the tiger wielder
Penny is the horse wielder
Anarka is the monkey wielder
Tomoe is the dragon wielder
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sugarcubetikki · 4 years ago
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So do you think everybody else in the intro will be getting their miraculous this season? We already have Rose
Most likely yes.
The brand ambassadors have confirmed that the names of the heroes in the intro are Vesperia, Multimouse, Bunnix, Pigella, Traquemoiselle, Tigresse Pourpre, Coq Courage, Caprikid and Minotaurox. And I do believe all of them will make an appearance this season.
So far, we've seen Vesperia and Pigella.
Multimouse. Most likely Mylene. Or Marinette because it's weird that Mylene would use the same name as her.
Bunnix. I hope we see young Alix getting the rabbit miraculous this season. Really hope we do. Fingers crossed for that.
Traquemoiselle is the Dog miraculous holder. Traque comes from the french verb "traquer" which means to hunt down/stalk. Which is rather fitting as dogs do have fine tracking skills (and moiselle probably comes from mademoiselle). Most likely Sabrina. As dogs do symbolise faithfulness and companionship.
Tigresse Pourpre (Purple Tiger) seems to be Juleka. Tigers symbolise strength and fearlessness. Which is fitting as Juleka's character arc pushes her to become more confident in herself, more fearless. Plus the silhouette in the intro looks A LOT like Juleka.
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Minotaurox is the wielder of the Ox miraculous. And going from the intro silhouette, should be Ivan.
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Plux, the ox is a symbol of power, determination and confidence. Ivan is once again on the meeker side, and confidence building is usually what he's pushed towards.
Time for the two baffling ones. Coq Courage and Caprikid.
Coq Courage is the wielder for the Rooster miraculous. Okay. So. Roosters. They represent courage, confidence, pride, prudence, strength and enthusiasm. All the attributes used to symbolise the animal revolve around self-expression. And I feel like there's a character here that does resonate with the miraculous very well. Marc!
He's another shy character that needs more confidence, and he needs to express himself, and his abilities more. His character is pretty much designed as a metaphor for self-expression. And I do believe that he'll be a more active role this season due to his presence in the intro.
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He could be Coq Courage.
Coming to Caprikid. The wielder of the goat miraculous. I'm thinking this one is Nathaniel. Not only because he's the only one left. It's quite fitting too.
"People born in a year of the Goat are generally believed to be gentle, mild-mannered, shy, stable, sympathetic, amicable, and brimming with a strong sense of kindheartedness and justice."
Well, this sums up Nathaniel quite perfectly.
I'm not sure about Coq Courage and Caprikid. But they're most likely Marc and Nathaniel based on the little information we have.
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princess-of-the-corner · 5 years ago
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Remember that you mentioned in Hero Chat how the Miraculous wielders display some traits of the animal their Miraculous is based on? Can you give some more examples other than the ones mentioned so far? And maybe some for future Miraculous wielders like Juleka, Rose, Ivan, Mylene, Nathaniel, Marc, and Sabrina?
The problem with me writing that is now I have to do research! I have only myself to blame. 
I think I went over everyone in the group so far, at least a little, so I’ll focus on the rest of the eventual Team: 
General Notes: 
They get good at imitating the sounds of their respective animals. Especially when surprised or having a lot of emotion. 
Bugs and cold-blododed animals get sleepy in the cold. On the flipside, mammals get ‘winter coats’, some going full Arctic if their animal has a variation of it(or seems too, since technically rabbits and hares are different things but look real similar)
You know when animals get spooked and its fur stands on end? Same thing but with hair. 
Carnivorous animals = Hunting instincts. 
Now onto individuals: 
Tiger!Juleka - Tigers are big cats so she shares some quirks with Chat
Pig!Rose - Begins to snort when she laughs. develops a habit of chewing on things. Gives up and buys a chew stim toy after a few too many damaged pens. 
Mouse!Mylene - Another for the chew stim thing. Finds herself making tunnels in her blankets at night. 
Ox!Ivan - ...
Rooser!Nathaniel - 
Goat!Marc - Craves that mineral. 
Dog!Sabrina - When her hair is wet she does that shake thing and splashes everyone/everything around her. Will be the first one to know when someone’s at the door. 
I couldn’t find info on Oxen or Roosters that wasn’t outright social dominance or mating stuff so they’re shelved for now. 
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tearsofahime · 5 years ago
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Anyways buckle down folks this has been sitting in my head ever since I started seeing spoilers about the identities of the zodiac heroes that have been revealed in Season 3
Click below on why I think Marc Anciel will get a miraculous in season 4/5 and what I will predict it will be (Spoilers for everything up to Party Crasher and Ikari Gozen):
The first and obvious piece of evidence that would lend some form of credibility to this theory is based off of the number of confirmed (and shown) miraculouses in the show vs the number of eligible users. As of season 3, we know that there are 19 miraculouses in Paris: The Ladybug and Black Cat, The 2nd-tier Miraculouses (Bee, Fox, and Turtle as well as the Butterfly and Peacock), and the 12 Zodiac miraculouses (Rat, Ox, tiger, rabbit, dragon, snake, horse, goat, monkey, rooster, dog, and pig). Take away 2 of them (the Butterfly and Peacock as they go to Gabriel and Nathalie) and you are left with 17 miraculouses that can be given to new heroes.
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As we have seen from past episodes, Ladybug tends to appoint new heroes based off of who she is close with and can trust as well as who is best fit for the task at hand. So far, the people Ladybug has appointed as heroes have all been Marinette’s friends (or her peers), and given that this is also a kid’s show designed to cater to and be relatable to kids, it would stand to reason that ALL of the new heroes would be around Marinette’s age. In addition, in “Timetagger”, Older!Alix also talks about there being a TEAM of superheroes in the future, which presents plenty of opportunity to explore the lore of the show through each Kwami and their powers and what better way to do that then to add new superheroes to the Miraculous team (plus it would be a waste to see some miraculouses be used but not all of them over the course of the show, even if some light is shed on past heroes in history).
Back to the math: There are 17 miraculouses, and 15 members of Madame Bustier’s class (including Lila), plus recurring students like Luka, Kagami, and Marc, totalling to 18 candidates for kwamis. As “Ikari Gozen” and “Party Crasher” confirmed, Kagami and Luka both get Miraculouses, leaving 15 to be distributed amongst Marinette’s peers and classmates. The Cat, Ladybug, Fox, Turtle, and Bee miraculouses were all accounted for with Adrien, Marinette, Alya, Nino and Chloe, leaving a total of ten left. Alix, Kim and Max were confirmed to be Zodiac heroes of the Rabbit, Monkey, and Horse, respectively. This leaves 7 miraculouses remaining, and 8 potential candidates.
Now this is where the theory and predictions of who will get what remaining miraculouses occurs.
If you go off of the popular fan theory that the girls of the class will each get a miraculous (Which many had used to predict Alya and Alix’s miraculous holder statuses so would hold more weight as a basis for a theory), the remaining girls in the photo, Juleka, Mylene and Rose, will each respectively get the Tiger, Rat, and Pig miraculouses. I know it’s confirmed through reference image leaks posted by Jeremy Zag that Marinette will be a temporary wielder of the Rat miraculous, but that is just that: Temporary. Marinette is Primarily the Ladybug holder and as such if given the chance (which is certain there will be), she will gladly give it to someone else who can use it to assist her in saving the day.
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Many a Fan theorist will also suggest that Sabrina, due to her immense personality trait of her loyalty to Chloe, will be a shoe-in for the Dog Miraculous.
This now just leaves Ivan, Nathaniel, Lila, and Marc and the Ox, Rooster, and Goat miraculouses to be distributed amongst them.
As stated earlier, we’ve seen that Ladybug appoints new heroes based off of people she knows she can trust from her civilian life (with the exceptions of Queen Bee, which was an accident but one that served to better Chloe, and Kim, who Master Fu himself appointed, although I’m sure had he not given Kim a miraculous then Marinette would have anyway). With the matter of trust, we can ABSOLUTELY rule out Lila based on the virtue of her being a liar hell-bent on ruining Marinette’s life (As well as how the show seems to hint/imply her being a future villain from the end of “Timetagger” and from Lila allying herself with Gabriel which means from a plot standpoint, her being willingly given even one of the “Lesser miraculouses” like a zodiac one will be unlikely).
With Lila out of the way, that leaves an equal kwami-to-remaining-friend ratio. If one goes off of physical appearances and traits, Ivan with his size and strength would be a shoo-in for the Ox, and Nathaniel with his bright red hair and fiesty-if-you-anger-him temperament could work well with the Rooster (who could also help him learn to open up and be less shy).
That leaves Marc with the goat.
“Why Marc? Why not another recurring teenager like Aurore or Wayhem as an alternative candidate to Lila?”
It’s doubtful that Marinette even KNOWS Wayhem personally outside of being Adrien’s fanboy, and we’ve hardly seen Aurore on-screen except to have Stormy Weather be a plot vehicle for the intro episode and a recap episode, and we hve yet to see Marinette and Aurore interact in a way that would suggest that they’re actually FRIENDS and not just mere acquaintances.
MARC on the other hand, has been established in the show as being a friend of Marinette’s (as seen in “Reverser” with Marinette already showing her familiarity with him), and is also the one character outside of Madame Bustier’s class that is seen frequently hanging out with the rest of the ensemble class (as seen as being invited to the Heroes Day Picnic in “Mayura”, getting invited to test play Max’s new video game, and getting invited to Adrien’s boy’s-only party (that had initially just been amongst Adrien’s school friends).  
With Marinette already being familiar enough to Marc to be friends with him and him being close enough to Nathaniel and the rest of the class to be invited to hang out with them relatively frequently, it is ABSOLUTELY plausible that Marinette would consider him to be trustworthy and enough of a team player to give him a miraculous.
“Why the Goat though?”
Marc getting the Goat miraculous would be fitting for many reasons. One of the most obvious would be the similarities in color schemes and patterns between Marc’s Reverser form and Ziggy (the goat kwami).
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This would not be the first time that a Kwami-Holder match-up would make a callback to the holder’s past akumatization: Alix’s time travel powers as Timebreaker ended up being similar to her powers as Bunnyx, and other Kwamis like the snake, fox, and bee kwamis all design-wise had at least SOME similarity to their holders in terms of physical appearances/character designs.
Another reason, appearances aside, that a goat would be suitable for Marc is that his personality would be suitable to be matched with a goat. Goats/sheep are popularly characterized as skittish, anxious, and overall kind of shy, which are all personality traits that can be used to describe Marc. Some kwamis match their users in terms of similarity of personality, others are opposites that complement their holder’s personalities. Either way, one would agree that a goat would be very fitting personality for Marc. There is also the fact that Hope Morphin (a friend of Thomas Astruc and who was the inspiration for marc) also said on her twitter (I couldn’t find the tweet at the moment) that Marc’s favorite animal is the sheep/goat. Make of that what you will, as she could just be banking on a popular theory.
Speaking of Hope, the creators of the show, through various tweets have confirmed Marc is LGBT, and given that Marc was based on Hope, who identifies as genderfluid and bi.
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That, along with Marc’s comparatively more “feminine” features (like his painted nails, his visible eyelashes and his pink-tinted lips which suggests he wears lip gloss), lends to lots of fans and show creators referring to him as “androgynous”.
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Why bring up Marc’s androgyny as a point? Good question. Consider Ziggy the Kwami. Thomas Astruc confirmed in a tweet that Ziggy was named after David Bowie’s stage persona, Ziggy Stardust.
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David Bowie’s “Ziggy Stardust” alter ego was FAMOUSLY known for his androgyny.
Now back to Ziggy the kwami. Another interesting feature design-wise about the goat kwami is her seemingly “feminine” features like her long eyelashes (just like a certain androgynous writer). The goat kwami, though genderless like all other kwamis, does prefer female pronouns according to the wiki. However, just because Ziggy uses feminine pronouns doesn’t automatically mean that it rules out that Marc won’t get the goat simply because he doesn’t match the “gender” of the kwami, as although most of the male miraculous holders have been given kwamis with preferred masculine pronouns, female holders like Ryukko and Rena Rouge have kwamis that use masculine pronouns. Given Marc’s androgynous design and behaviors, it wouldn’t be out of the question for him to have Ziggy as his kwami at all, On the contrary, it would be a PERFECT fit from a symbolic standpoint (and let’s face it, writers, ESPECIALLY showwriters like the miraculous ladybug team, LOVE their symbolism).
“I don’t think Marc should get a Miraculous. He’s hardly there in the story.”
We’re all entitled to our opinions and I respect yours as long as it doesn’t step on mine. Personally, I think giving characters a day in the limelight as a newly-appointed hero provides for LOTS of character-development, which is something that admittedly, most of the miracuclass could benefit from having more of. Even so, the show was confirmed for their fourth and fifth seasons, which leave plenty of episodes for which less frequently-seen-but-still-relevant-enough characters like Marc (and let’s face it, Nathaniel too) could get more episodes focusing on them. And if not, they’re still considered very good enough friends of Marinette’s and valuable and cherished members of the Miracuclass to still be considered in the running to be Zodiac heroes, especially over other characters that have even LESS story presence like Wayhem or Aurore.
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caitlinsnow-yayyy · 5 years ago
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Why Him? (a kwami swap story)
Very overdue story for my friend @nerdasaurus1200 - a King Monkey and Ryuko kwami swap story! You can probably imagine chaos will ensue from these two swapping... and maybe, a new friendship? 
We shall see! I hope anyone reading this enjoys it :) And Nerd, my friend, I hope this was worth the wait! :D Sorry this took so long lol.
(story under the cut)
Oh, of all the people, why Kim?
Today, Adrien and Marinette had decided that the team wasn't working well enough together, and they decided to have a set apart Saturday for a mandatory team bonding exercise - kwami swapping. Chloe got Alix, Max got Nathaniel, Marc switched with Juleka, Ivan swapped with Rose, who then swapped with Mylene; Alya swapped with Nino, and her own boyfriend, Luka, got to swap with Sabrina. Marinette and Adrien swapped (of course).
Their only instructions were to not leave their partner for the day; they didn't even need to seek out an akuma. They could literally go shopping if they wanted to, so long as they stood together.
And she... had gotten Kim.
"You promise to bring that back in one piece, right?" Kim asked, pointing to his circlet.
Kagami gave him a dead stare. "I should ask you the same for my choker."
"Oh, it'll be fine!" Kim smirked. "This is Le Chien Kim ya got here! Not a klutz."
Kagami, again, deadpanned him. Were these words seriously coming out of his mouth right now? Honestly, of all the people she could've gotten, why KIM?! Kim with the Dragon Miraculous just sounded like an accident waiting to happen.
She just didn't feel like throwing a rubber banana today either.
As if examples of how the others days were going couldn't get shoved in her face any more than what her mind was already doing, Nathaniel, equipped with Voyage, Naruto-ran through two portals about two rooftops away from them. Max, equipped with the Fire Flame power, was chasing him with a crossbow that had a flaming arrow. Somehow they were laughing.
"Let's just get this over with," Kagami sighed. "You go first."
"Sweet!" Kim said. "Alright, LONGG - BRING THE STORM!"
She would be lying if she said the Dragon costume didn't fit well on Kim - his suit was a darker red than hers, and his hair that normally stuck up was now covered with a horn-like design for a mask. Honestly, it kinda looked like Dark Cupid. He had wings imprinted into the spandex on his back, and his sword fell into his hands.
Why was she so scared of this?
"Oh, this is so cool!" he exclaimed. "I shall be known as... Doragon Kaosu!"
"Chaos Dragon - fitting," Kagami nodded. "Alright... guess its my turn. XUPPU, SHOWTIME!"
Kagami had already decided her name was going to be Queen Monkey; she saw no need to be original with her name. After all, it wasn't like she was gonna be the Monkey wielder for long. She was just eager for 6 o'clock to roll around so this could be over with.
"Holy crap," Doragon said once her transformation was up, "you look badass!"
Kagami had to smile at that one - despite the fact that Kim was an idiot, he still had his moments, and was really just a fun-loving soul at heart. No one could deny that. "Thank you, Doragon. Now, wanna take your Miraculous for a test run?"
Suddenly, an akuma flew past - he was some sort of hang-gliding akuma, yelling at the top of his lungs about how hang-gliding school was real and not a joke.
"Oh, oh this is perfect!" Doragon laughed. "I've always wanted to do this..."
"Wait, what are you-"
"LIGHTNING DRAGON!"
Doragon suddenly turned into a lightning bolt, and struck the hang-gliding akuma man out of the sky. Queen Monkey screamed out bloody murder in horror, fearing for her sake and for her life that Kim hadn't even been Doragon Kaosu for two minutes and he had already killed someone!
"KIM!" yelled Queen Monkey. "WHAT THE HELL?!"
"Chill, he's fine!" said Doragon, manifesting back in front of her. "I made sure to check his pulse before I got back. He'll live."
"YEAH, FOR LIKE ANOTHER MINUTE!" Queen Monkey screamed. "OH MY GOD!"
"Chill out, Queenie!" Doragon said, genuinely becoming concerned for her. "Its gonna be fine!"
"Woah, what's going on here?"
Kagami and Kim looked up, and there was another kwami swap duo: Luka, now Blue Heeler, and Sabrina, now Hydra. "Gami? Kim? You two okay?" asked Heeler.
"I just struck somebody with lightning, and Queenie over here thinks it'll kill him," Doragon said, somehow completely nonchalant that he had just struck down someone with lightning.
"O..Oh... y-yeah, that'll do it," Heeler muttered, taking a deep breath.
"Should I use Second Chance?" asked Hydra.
"N-No... I think its probably best we leave you two to work this out," Heeler said.
"Wait!" Queen Monkey whispered to him. "P-Please... I-I don't know if I can handle this..."
"Hey, you're gonna do just fine," Heeler reassured her. "It'll probably take some getting used to, but-"
"I-Its not that," Queen Monkey said softly. "I-Its...w-well... he's an idiot."
"You don't know that," Heeler said gently. "Reckless? Probably. Chaotic? You bet! But give him a chance, okay? Please?"
Kagami looked up at Luka... damn those soft eyes. It always made her crack and she hated it! Well, okay, no, she didn't hate it. But she just wished... oh, never mind.
"Fine," she crumbled.
"Thank you so much, Gami," smiled Heeler. "Seriously. Thank you."
"M-hmm," Queen Monkey nodded, trying to appear as sincere as possible. Truth be told, she was still dreading the rest of the day. Hydra and Doragon then wrapped up whatever they were chatting about, and then Sabrina ran off with Luka to go continue their own kwami-swap adventure.
And thank the Lord, the paramedics arrived to take the hang-glider akuma guy away for proper treatment...
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4:00
Oh, just one more hour... one more!
And then, she would have Longg back, and Kim would be back with Xuppu. Like it should be. She was excited to finally get back to normal...
"Hey, Kagami?"
"Hmm?"
The two were currently resting on a rooftop, having just caught another akuma in the trusty akuma-catching portable butterfly nets that they had been supplied with. How they worked was beyond them, but hey, they worked; hopefully Mister Bug didn't mind a surplus of akumas to purify.
"Do you... do you hate me?" Doragon asked.
"What? No no, no!" Queen Monkey said, sitting upright. "Of course not!"
"Are you sure?" he asked, seeming... genuinely troubled. "You sure do act like it."
"No no, God no! I don't hate you, Kim!" Queen Monkey said. "Its just... its..."
"Hmm?" Doragon asked, looking down.
"I'M JEALOUS! I'm jealous, okay?! That's it!" she blurted out. "Its just... you're able to be so reckless and chaotic all the time! And yet, somehow, you can... I don't know, control the chaos? I wish I could do that, for crying out loud! I've always had to be perfect, nothing could be off! Being Queen Monkey has given me a sweet release, and I've really enjoyed it, and you make an excellent Dragon wielder but my pride wouldn't let me admit it! There! Are you happy?"
Queen Monkey then took in deep breaths of air, never having vented like that before... it was new.
And honestly, it felt good to get that off of her chest.
Suddenly, Doragon put a hand on her shoulder, and smiled sadly.
"Wanna know something?" Doragon said. "I'm... I'm kinda jealous of you too."
"Huh?" Queen Monkey said in shock.
"You're able to create a plan on the fly, and you never have to just wing it," Doragon said. "Not only that, but you can be picture perfect when needed. I'm always this big mess of chaos, never really able to control anything but. Though I do wish, at times, that I could be a straight shooter; like you! So yeah, I'm kinda jealous of you too..."
Queen Monkey chuckled. "Well then... uhm..."
"Don't know what to say?" asked Doragon.
"Read my mind," nodded Queen Monkey. "Uh... so... I guess, uh, we're even? Of sorts?"
Doragon shrugged. "Guess so... but really, I'm glad you don't hate me."
"God, how could I hate you?" asked Queen Monkey. "Honestly, though at times, you are a moron - its hilarious. You're hilarious. I'm not only jealous of your ability to control chaos, but your sense of humor is so natural flowing and witty - I could never do that! That's a gift!"
"You kidding me? Of course you could!" Doragon laughed. "And your stoicism... the ability to keep a stone cold glare going for more than five seconds. I'm envious of that, because I know I couldn't do that for shite!"
"Oh come on, you could!" Queen Monkey exclaimed. "See, the trick is to..."
The two wouldn't count on it, but they'd spend the next hour chatting and talking like they were best friends. They'd talk similarities, their differences, what was going on in their romantic lives, how they thought of their powers on the norm, etc.
After the conversation, honestly, the two honestly weren't even ready to swap back when Mister Bug sent out the signal for them to come back.
-0-
"So, how was that day, guys?" asked Mister Bug to the currently present heroes. Lady Noire still had her arm hooked around his; those two were madly in love. It was almost sickeningly cute.
"SO MUCH FUN!" Tourterelle (turtle!Alya) exclaimed.
"Yeah, this was a sick day!" Red Vix (fox!Nino) added.
"AWESOME!" Sun Screamer (rooster!Max) yelled.
"I had so much fun!" Trotter (horse!Nath) exclaimed. "This may actually be the best team bonding exercise idea ever! Thanks you two!"
"Honestly, we didn't get much action," Mr. Stripes (tiger!Marc) chuckled.
"I mean, I guess I learned how to tap dance," Madame Hoofer (goat!Juleka) shrugged with a smile (she failed to notice Rose's sudden blush). "Just what happens when ya get bored, y'know?"
"Its difficult to be intimidating like this," Pink Boar (pig!Ivan) said sadly.
"Oh, you're always a sweetheart to me!" Bluebell (ox!Mylene) smiled up at her boyfriend.
"So cute!" Mouselia (mouse!Rose) said, holding her hands together.
"We had a lot of fun," Blue Heeler (dog!Luka) smiled.
"Yeah, it was actually pretty fun using Repetition as a power!" Hydra (snake!Sabrina) said, equally as happy.
"Psh... It was okay, I guess," Madame Cottontail (bunny!Chloe) shrugged.
"Oh come on, you loved it!" Hornet (bee!Alix) said, smirking smugly.
"Well, we're glad you all had fun!" Lady Noire smiled. "Uh... Kim? Kagami? How'd you all fare?"
There was tension - everyone could feel it. A commonly shared feeling of dread was shared at the start of the day when it was announced that Kim and Kagami would be swapping Miraculouses... but everyone was caught off guard by the two nodding and smirking at one another.
"When can we do it again?" the two asked.
"O-Oh!" Lady Noire gasped, not expecting that answer. "W-Well... uhm, we hadn't thought of doing this again!"
"But, m'lady, you do have to agree - this has been a very successful day," Mister Bug said.
"You're very right, my bug," smiled Lady Noire, nodding. "Well... how about not next Saturday, but the Saturday after? Same swaps? Everyone cool with that?"
A simultaneous nod went around the group, and Lady Noire and Mister Bug settled it - every other Saturday would henceforth be known as "Kwami Swap Day".
"Pound it?" asked Doragon, sticking out his fist.
Queen Monkey nodded, returning the bump. "Pound it."
It hadn't been expected, no, but it wasn't any less welcome because of that.
This friendship would be one for the ages, for sure...
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